bentwaters81tfw Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Hi All We have Pave Hawks at Lakenheath. Does anyone which shade of grey they are painted please? It looks lighter than Gunship. TIA Frank Just discovered it's FS 36375 Satin US Ghost Grey Humbrol 127 http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?/topic/296779-werners-wings-pavehawk-decals-are-now-available-in-most-scales/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 AFSOC Gray, no idea the FS code though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted January 7, 2017 Author Share Posted January 7, 2017 Thanks for that - it had to be something obscure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonywood Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Should be Gunship Gray FS36118 the same as the MH-53 used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted January 7, 2017 Author Share Posted January 7, 2017 31 minutes ago, tonywood said: Should be Gunship Gray FS36118 the same as the MH-53 used to be. It's too pale for Gunship Grey, A comparison with the F-15E shows that. Just discovered it's 36375 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e8n2 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Later in the instructions for the sheet, it is clearly mentioned that after the Euro 1 scheme was dropped, they went to overall Gunship Gray, i.e. FS36118. Later, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 Indeed it does, however the current scheme on the LN birds is 36375. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotthldr Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) What makes you so sure it's 36375? Unless the Lakenheath, and only the the Lakenheath helos have gone through the paint shop in the last 4 weeks, they are most definitely 36118. In contrast the Naval version of the H60 are painted mainly in 36320 Dark Ghost Grey, 36375 is Light Ghost Grey. Therefore are you saying that the Lakenheath helos are now lighter in colour than the US Navy examples? Edit: The mention of 36375 on the Werner Wings decal sheet is related to the colour of the rescue hoist, nothing else. Edited January 8, 2017 by scotthldr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jens Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 1 hour ago, scotthldr said: What makes you so sure it's 36375? Unless the Lakenheath, and only the the Lakenheath helos have gone through the paint shop in the last 4 weeks, they are most definitely 36118. In contrast the Naval version of the H60 are painted mainly in 36320 Dark Ghost Grey, 36375 is Light Ghost Grey. Therefore are you saying that the Lakenheath helos are now lighter in colour than the US Navy examples? Edit: The mention of 36375 on the Werner Wings decal sheet is related to the colour of the rescue hoist, nothing else. Seahawks are FS35237, FS36320 and FS36495 - at least those are the colours they are delivered in. Jens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 Quote from those instructions, and I can't cut and paste "In 1993, all AFSOC MH-60Gs were repainted to 'AFSOC Gray'. "In 2003, those still in European One were repainted into the current Gunship Gray" Which way is this to be interpreted? A machine is AFSOC Gray is not E1, so did they get repainted as well? Does that mean they are ALL in Gunship Gray? TBH, Gunship Gray is easiest for me as I have spraycans of it, I just want to get it accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonywood Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 I've seen numerous MH-60s in the flesh at various bases and regularly see the Lakenheath ones, I've never seen one in 36375. they went straight from Euro One into the Gunship Gray scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotthldr Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) He is referring to two different versions, the MH and the HH. In 1993 all MH-60's were repainted in AFSOC Grey, then in 2003 all remaining HH-60's were repainted in Gunship Grey 36118. Back in the 90's timeframe the HH's were used by ACC, USAFE, PACAF, ANG and AFRC in a SAR/Personnel recovery role. While all MH's were operated by AFSOC in a Special Forces insertation/recovery role. However during the mid 90's all MH-60's were transferred over to ACC except for a few at Hurlburt Field. By the late 90's the MH designation had been dropped and they were all known as HH's. The USArmy still use the MH designation. AFSOC 'Gray' refers to the scheme and not the actual colours in that scheme. The scheme consists of 36118 upper surfaces 36375 lower surfaces(I think this applies to fixed wing a/c only) 36375 all markings. think CV-22. Edit: Looking at the Werner Wings sheet, there is no AFSOC Gray option on it. Edited January 8, 2017 by scotthldr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotthldr Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 2 hours ago, Jens said: Seahawks are FS35237, FS36320 and FS36495 - at least those are the colours they are delivered in. Jens Indeed, I meant the main colour within the scheme is 36320. Sorry for any confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 Right. I knew we would have someone with a definitive answer. Gunship Gray it is. Thanks all for your input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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