Vitaliy Posted March 17, 2017 Author Share Posted March 17, 2017 Well, that's what we figured out !!! Oh , thank you so much !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitaliy Posted March 19, 2017 Author Share Posted March 19, 2017 Well , all the components that will be visible and will I need to give reality model ready and waiting for painting in the correct colors.Guys please help in selecting colors of these components Thanks !!!!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitaliy Posted March 19, 2017 Author Share Posted March 19, 2017 Kirk I can't send you a message Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xffw45343tg Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Ah - sorry. Will work out how to copy my old messages and create some space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitaliy Posted March 19, 2017 Author Share Posted March 19, 2017 Guys please help in selecting colors of these components Thanks !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xffw45343tg Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Message box should have some space now! I haven't chipped in on the colour question as I'm not too good with paints but this site (transport archive) may help with some good colour pictures of your engine. Just off the top of my head, the real fan casing is painted (or more likely some expensive form of powder coated) in pale grey, the plenum was natural aluminium colour on early engines but has a yellowy-orange colour on the 105 and 107. There are heat shields over the compressor/burner/turbine casing that are a matt aluminium colour and I believe the "elephant's bum" section is made from Inconel or some fancy titanium alloy (although it is covered in that dimpled adiabatic blanket that looks stainless steel-like to my eye. Oil tanks are shiny polished stainless steel and accessories (alternator, fuel system, DECUs, GTS/APU) are roughly the same grey as the fan casing. Think the hydraulic pumps are white. The fan module stator mounting bolts look stainless steel and are probably titanium as are the various bolt heads dotted around the accessories. Exhausts look rustier and sootier the older they get and there is nothing I can tell you about heat staining that you won't already know. Aft nozzle cooling pipes and water supply pipe are stainless steel. Fire bulkhead has a black coloured sealing strip around its edge. Hope this helps. Kirk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitaliy Posted March 21, 2017 Author Share Posted March 21, 2017 Kirk Thank You ! But I'm not sure about the color of the main fan , some books write that the fan is made of titanium ??? So the color titanium ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xffw45343tg Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 No problem Vitaliy. Most fans are made from similar stuff. The finish is very much like a slightly matt steel. Say like a new brake disc on your car. With regards to the question you sent me regarding the position of the bleed air ducts, I think it is a case of a small optical illusion resulting from them being slightly lower down than the inboard upper auxiliary intake doors. If viewed from above, I think it would consistently be the case that the forward edge of the duct would appear forward of the AI door, perhaps by as much as as half the length of the duct. The reason I don't think it could have moved over the period of production is that all single seat aircraft have the same air conditioning unit crammed into the limited space aft of the duct. By the way, are you planning on having the engine access panels open in your model? There are some good pictures of this area in Mark Attril's book. Cheers, Kirk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitaliy Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 I limit myself to what I did on the engine . Speaking about the Mark Attril's book , I would look at it ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitaliy Posted April 1, 2017 Author Share Posted April 1, 2017 Hi all !!! There is a little progress Guys maybe someone have a diagram of riveting the Harrier , please share with me ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewy Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Riveting and scribing to that standard is not easy,well done there,and the engine components are looking great too Glynn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitaliy Posted April 4, 2017 Author Share Posted April 4, 2017 Hi all !!! Riveting the fuselage is finished ... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xffw45343tg Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Excellent work Vitaliy! Are you going to post your question about Chaff/Flare dispensers on this topic or a new one? Kirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitaliy Posted April 4, 2017 Author Share Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) Thank you very much Kirk !!! Yes in this topic . The all information in one topic Edited April 4, 2017 by Vitaliy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xffw45343tg Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 OK: Attention Armourers!!! Here are the questions that Vitaliy put to me via pm that you chaps may be able to help with: Please can you explain how the ventral dispensers on the Harrier are configured? I see that sometimes there is something that looks like a flat cover over the dispenser, sometimes there's an empty grid and sometimes the grid is filled. Lots of questions: In theatre, are the dispensers always filled before a mission and partially used ones emptied afterwards? Can a single dispenser hold both chaff and flare at the same time? Is there a visual difference between the chaff and flare "capsules" that would show on a model? Should an aircraft with "live" dispensers shown an "aircraft armed" sign? Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitaliy Posted April 6, 2017 Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 Guys please help with dispensers ... Thanks to all !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xffw45343tg Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) Hi Vitaliy. I replied to your pm regarding GR7 vs GR9, although you may get a better answer if you put your questions on this thread since there are many more knowledgeable people than me here. Likewise, you may get a better response to your dispenser question on a separate topic, since an armourer may skip a topic just entitled "Harrier". Someone who has worked on the Tornado or Typhoon could well have the answers you seek. Try a separate topic with a title like "Desperately seeking a Plumber/Armourer/Dispenser/Expert - free chocolate!" might reel them in. Cheers, Kirk Edit: Actually, just "Free Chocolate!" should do it. Edited April 7, 2017 by Kirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitaliy Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 Hi Kirk. Are you saying that a dispenser which is mounted on Harrier , same as the Tornado or Typhoon dispenser ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xffw45343tg Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 No, I'm saying that the people who know probably know about all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitaliy Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 I understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xffw45343tg Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) Don't worry and be patient. I'm sure the offer of CHOCOLATE will tempt a few of them to their keyboards. Especially if you ask them what sort of Snake-eye is appropriate for a GR. 8 Edited April 7, 2017 by Kirk autocorrect was trying to be too darn clever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitaliy Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 Yes, I'm tired of the Harrier , it is a very complicated plane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitaliy Posted April 8, 2017 Author Share Posted April 8, 2017 (edited) Little update Remade and replaced Edited April 9, 2017 by Vitaliy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitaliy Posted April 9, 2017 Author Share Posted April 9, 2017 Remade ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitaliy Posted April 10, 2017 Author Share Posted April 10, 2017 Guys please help in choosing colors for the shield What color to paint it ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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