trickyrich Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 I've had the issue before Tony with decals and paint schemes, even with the polish F-16 I'm doing now, I was quite concerned with the colours and the contrast, I didn't think there would be enough, but it now looks to be just right. But as often as it happens the eye does like to play tricks with use especially with contrast and hues of similar colours or between light and dark colours (I spent quite a few years in the Film/print Processing industry with FujiFilm here in Oz). Often the background colour has a huge effect on the colour being placed on it and really can trick the eye, this is sort of why we normally paint multi-colour schemes from light to dark. The top colour though is always the same but it's the colour it's placed on that'll trick the eye into believing the colour has changed. Misting lite coats of paint or slightly translucent decals over a darker (or lighter) colour makes this effect even worse. Looking at those decals through the photo, I think it maybe very close, but I think you may be fine. I'd just give one of the smaller "info" decals a go, they are not so noticeable and probably the easiest to sort out if wrong, but I think you may be very surprised. You've pulled rabbit's out of the hat before, so I'm expecting something amazing! Your colour mixing is awesome, I'm so interested in seeing how this goes with the paint. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fewr9fkr9595 Posted February 17, 2017 Author Share Posted February 17, 2017 ⬆️ Thanks Rich. Not much to update, continuing with the hataka theme on the CJ and to save time later on, all the white bits were done last night. These can now have the black and silver/metal areas added. Then one big glossing session ready for washes & decals. I was going to gloss the airframe but thought I may as well do everything in one go, so that was put on hold whilst I cleaned up all the u/c bits for the white. Also started messing about with the mission models primer on the Revell C lonestar's cockpit parts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fewr9fkr9595 Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 (edited) So here is aforementioned detail painting. Blue/yellow/black and greys by hataka in keeping with the theme for this one. I find them quite thin for brushing, so squeeze some drops into a palette and then leave to thicken up for 10-15min. The metallics are revell aqua, my favourite brushable metals. Really fine grained and great coverage. 99 alu on u/c bay bottle, 90 silver on the two panels and nav lights (ready for clear colours on final assy) then a mix of silver and brass to get the titanium gold on the chaff(?) boxes. All had a good dousing with aquagloss last night, then when I made a brew just now and had some hot water thought it'd be rude not to do this- tried just the one. Ta-da! Thanks to @CaracalModels for his explanation 👍🏿 Edited February 18, 2017 by Tony Oliver Pic order 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Great to see the decals are alright!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookenbacher Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Perfect contrast on the decals! Your paint work is top notch Tony. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fewr9fkr9595 Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 In the words of Matthew McConaughey - Alright alright alright... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 19 minutes ago, Tony Oliver said: In the words of Matthew McConaughey - Alright alright alright... That is looking the part - good job! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 On 2/13/2017 at 11:58 PM, Tony Oliver said: HAVE GLASS TIME! Monday nights work 2100-2300 So as I said a few posts back I was going to try and do as much work before the main colour. So I did a preshade/highlight with black and white. I used Mr.paint, gunze levelling thinner and my new h&s 0.15mm infinity cr+ that I got at yesterdays huddersfield show from Paul @little-cars Perfect results! Much tighter & crisper than I've managed previously on past builds with my tamiya HG 0.2mm superfine & mr.paint. Can't believe how much of a difference 0.05mm makes! In the future i'll do the white first though. Close in: Next onto the haveglass. Hataka paint from the modern US set. Has an 'SAC bomber green' sticker but is a dirty metallic grey in the bottle. Not sure what happened in their factory that day! One Other new thing I tried is this 'transparator' by mig ammo. Basically I think its just pre-thinned statin varnish. But works very well and is a good idea, because alot of these acrylic paints don't like over thinning to allow preshading to show trough. This makes your paint see through but keeps it as 'paint' rather than colour thinner. Mixed it 50/50 or so. Anyways using this 'transparator' and a touch of ump thinner gave this hataka paint a lovely silky smooth finish. Sprayed through an iwata Neo 0.35mm. Came out nothing like the rough matt grittiness on the first page when I expermented with this have glass colour. Really pleased. Onto the pics! First pass- About 3 to 4 coats later... Had to angle it for the pics cause the sheen of the paint washes out all the details. Next is the nose cone and masking for wingtip rails/intake lip etc. Also may try and mask the wingwalk lines... Thanks for looking, Hope it was worth the wait! Is the paint the Hataka Haveglass from the modern US Greys set? Looks the part! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fewr9fkr9595 Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, Tim Moff said: Is the paint the Hataka Haveglass from the modern US Greys set? Looks the part! Yeah Tim thats the one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 she certainly looks the part now with the rest of the decals on, really nice job! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoftScience Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 I never thought have glass could look interesting, but you've proven me wrong. I'm going to have to pick up some of these 72nd scale Tamiya falcons for the adversary builds I've been meaning to do. The details look incredible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fewr9fkr9595 Posted February 19, 2017 Author Share Posted February 19, 2017 6 hours ago, SoftScience said: The details look incredible. Yeah they're very fine and crisp. Was worried they may disappear under paint but it all turmed out good 👍🏿 So much that I have added a few more to the stash for future builds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fewr9fkr9595 Posted February 19, 2017 Author Share Posted February 19, 2017 Jet pipe for the have glass CJ. Pale burnt metal colour mixed for titanium silver and gold 👍🏿 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearmatt Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Most interesting thread here. You're doing a superb job on those F-16. Cheers b. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fewr9fkr9595 Posted February 21, 2017 Author Share Posted February 21, 2017 Hi troops, need help identifying a loadout for the Lonestar C. Found a pic on f-16.net with it all tooled up. http://www.f-16.net/g3/f-16-photos/album38/album68/87-0255-1293400885 Happy with modifying the sidewinders and tacts pod. Questions are: is this the chinpod (aaq-28?) https://www.eduard.com/store/aircraft-and-helicopters/1-72/an-aaq-28(v)-litening-pod-1-72.html?cur=1 and are these the bombs on ters? https://www.eduard.com/store/aircraft-and-helicopters/1-72/m117-bombs-late-1-72.html?cur=1 Cheers, Tony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaracalModels Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) Looking forward to seeing the Lone Star jet as well. A few years ago, I was invited to the base (about an hour's drive from here) to see the actual jet up close - it really was even more attractive than it looked in the photos. Please note that the horizontal stabilizers are only painted red on the upper surfaces - lower side is left gray. This was not a detail visible in the photos I used when I designed the decals 5 years ago, so the instruction sheet is not entirely accurate. Edited February 21, 2017 by CaracalModels 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 On 2/21/2017 at 10:26 AM, Tony Oliver said: Hi troops, need help identifying a loadout for the Lonestar C. Found a pic on f-16.net with it all tooled up. http://www.f-16.net/g3/f-16-photos/album38/album68/87-0255-1293400885 Happy with modifying the sidewinders and tacts pod. Questions are: is this the chinpod (aaq-28?) https://www.eduard.com/store/aircraft-and-helicopters/1-72/an-aaq-28(v)-litening-pod-1-72.html?cur=1 and are these the bombs on ters? https://www.eduard.com/store/aircraft-and-helicopters/1-72/m117-bombs-late-1-72.html?cur=1 Cheers, Tony Looks like the Litening Pod. Not sure on the bombs, also says on Wiki last carrier was Phantom II the B52, last dropped in 2015... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M117_bomb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookenbacher Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 F-16 TER's have a fairing on the front - I know the Hasegawa kit comes with them. I think the bombs in the pic are high drag Mk 82 Snakeyes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fewr9fkr9595 Posted February 23, 2017 Author Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Tim Moff said: Looks like the Litening Pod. Not sure on the bombs, also says on Wiki last carrier was Phantom II the B52, last dropped in 2015... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M117_bomb Ok cool. Got one of those pods on order. And the m117 bombs. Picture of plane dates to 2013 According to text. So even though they're not the exact bombs in the pic it may have carried them? A representative loadout will do me fine... ps the revell kit that will be this is 'flying' together ha ha... Edited February 23, 2017 by Tony Oliver Date -2013 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fewr9fkr9595 Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 So started to look at which panel line wash to use to best compliment the colour, Think I'm going to go for the brown one to help give it that brownish grime tinge that can sometimes be seen with this have glass paint. I think i will use a combination of all three, like the grey in the wheel bays and the black in deeper grooves and vents. In this pic of the washes - black on the left wing, brown in spine and grey on the right. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fewr9fkr9595 Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 Wash on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fewr9fkr9595 Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 Wash off! Happy with it so far... Deep brown overall with black in the flaps/slats/rudder grooves, vents, and hinges of all the little access covers. Next will be a matt coat (perhaps satin?) And then final assy over the coming week. Hoping for RFI at the weekend. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 was going to say "wax off" but I'm not sure how many would get it!! looks really nice, I so love that colour scheme! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Looking the biz Tony! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fewr9fkr9595 Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 On 20 February 2017 at 14:18, bearmatt said: Most interesting thread here. You're doing a superb job on those F-16. Cheers b. Thanks Pal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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