72modeler Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 (edited) While looking for some photos of R.T. Smith's #77 mount, I found this one that clearly shows the external ring sight, the armored glass windscreen panel, and what I believe is the reflector for the floor-mounted gunsight projector unit. I thought this might be useful for those of you working on a 1/72 or 1/48 model. Mike http://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Hawk-81A/23FG3PS/pages/Curtiss-Hawk-81A-2-23FG3PS-W77-Robert-Smith-China-1942-11.html This just in! Found the website the photo above was taken from- lots of great detail photos, some in color, as well as color profiles of the AVG Tomahawks. Many I have never seen before and show details not normally seen around the canopy and lower engine cowling! Had to share them with you all! http://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Hawk-81A/23FG3PS/pages/Artwork-Curtiss-Hawk-81A-2-23FG3PS-W77-Robert-Smith-China-1942-0B.html Edited December 27, 2016 by 72modeler added links 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFlint Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Thank You for that link ; there are lots of photos there-many I have not seen before :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share Posted March 9, 2017 On 12/27/2016 at 2:23 AM, PFlint said: Thank You for that link ; there are lots of photos there-many I have not seen before :thumbup: Try this link- go to the last photo; it shows RT's #47, and it looks like the ring and bead sight is on the RH of the centerline. Mike https://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/flying-tigers-p-40-tomahawk-amazing-color-pictures-from-wwii.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nachtwulf Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Quote I agree. Though not definitive it does appear to be offset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) Always enjoy AVG pictures. Edited March 10, 2017 by Smudge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS_w Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 P-40 BC/H81, the bead and ring had 3"25/32 right offset 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 I found a few photos that might be helpful, and have posted the links below. I seem to recall photos of the floor-mounted gun sight projector as well as the reflector glass mounted to the inside of the armored glass panel in the center of the windscreen, but I don't have that link at hand. I guess the appearance of the reflector panel on the back of the armor glass would tend to indicate that the reflector sight was fitted, but that's an un educated guess on my part. Decisions, decisions! You can see different mounting brackets for the glass reflector in the photos. Mike https://www.google.com/search?q=AVG+P-40B+reflector++gun+sights&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiv9sHyrszSAhUJ4yYKHQs2DoMQ_AUIBigB&biw=1280&bih=654&dpr=1#imgrc=goLn1nL5-wLtrM https://www.google.com/search?q=AVG+P-40B+reflector++gun+sights&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiv9sHyrszSAhUJ4yYKHQs2DoMQ_AUIBigB&biw=1280&bih=654&dpr=1#imgdii=Gt6dTOG8gVzmcM:&imgrc=goLn1nL5-wLtrM https://www.google.com/search?q=AVG+P-40B+reflector++gun+sights&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiv9sHyrszSAhUJ4yYKHQs2DoMQ_AUIBigB&biw=1280&bih=654&dpr=1#imgrc=t5KDvOm-xk8a3M Sorry I don't have any better references, but maybe these will help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS_w Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) EDIT Edited March 10, 2017 by BS_w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 On 3/9/2017 at 4:19 PM, BS_w said: P-40 BC/H81, the bead and ring had 3"25/32 right offset Sorry to drag up this old thread. I know that some AVG P-40’s had both reflector type as well as ring & bead sights. Would you have any photo’s of the interior view showing the reflector hanging from the grab bar and the offset in the ring & bead sights. Im currently working on Hawk 81-A-2 side number #21 listed as being flown by Gregory Boyington. Id like to try and get it correct and dont know if his aircraft had both types of sight or just the Ring & Bead ? Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Duvalier Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Interesting this thread bobbed to the surface as I'm finishing up an Airfix AVG P-40B. It's been a protracted build for such a simple kit, with much overpainting already. Now I really must fix the wingtip roundels. Airfix had me apply them too far in. Good thing I have two sets of decals, and Airfix made panel lines that can soak up twelve layers of paint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS_w Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) HTH as we can see, the glass of optical gunsight was hanged behind the armor glass, not screwed on windshield as for Army P40B C Edited December 1, 2020 by BS_w 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbob Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Ha ha, I was looking for the "glass" in the nice clear windscreen in front of that first pilot's face... until I scrolled down a little more, and then all became - uhh- clear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS_w Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 13 hours ago, gingerbob said: Ha ha, I was looking for the "glass" in the nice clear windscreen in front of that first pilot's face... .... like this?.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbob Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Gotta be Bob Hoover. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 17 hours ago, BS_w said: .... like this?.... Yep it is Bob Hoover, best airshow i ever saw was Oshkosh 92 when he did the no engine routine in the Aero commander. Blew my mind so much that it never truly recovered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted December 3, 2020 Author Share Posted December 3, 2020 Yep-he was an incredible stick and rudder man, and a real gentleman. I was in awe when he flew his P-51D, a T-33A, and the Shrike Commander at one of our Randolph AB airshows. Watching that aerobatic routine with both props feathered was an incredible demonstration of airspeed and altitude management! He is missed. Mike 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt-92 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 On 12/3/2020 at 3:35 AM, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: Yep it is Bob Hoover, best airshow i ever saw was Oshkosh 92 when he did the no engine routine in the Aero commander. Blew my mind so much that it never truly recovered. Denver, 1986. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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