wasacop Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) Hi all, I think I've set myself a bit of a tester this time! I've got the Airfix Sea King HC4 to have a go at and in a moment of madness I asked Mrs Wasacop which version I should do--all green or the green/white camo? No prizes for guessing which one she went for (and to be fair I agree with her)-- you got it the green/white one! My question to those who know about these things is how much would I have to enlarge a scan of the painting guide to make some masks for this bad boy? Thanking you all in advance for any help on this one, Hilly Edited December 12, 2016 by wasacop I'm a biff!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaurieS Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) Trial and error is my way Hilly. Pre-scan then adjust scale then scan. Print which gives a first guide. Then progress. Measure up against say the length of the fuselage. May take a few scans but the argument is soon settled. Finished the Hasagawa HC4 1/48 a few weeks ago. Nice aircraft to build. Mrs Stewart does not get a look in. I do not advise her on her cuisine (say thanks for a great meal not stupid) but I do let her have a look at my models from time to time. She is fascinated by PE and so I have locked up my bending machine. Look forward to seeing your SeaKing. Laurie Edited December 12, 2016 by LaurieS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasacop Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 Thanks for that Laurie! Should be interesting to say the least! Mrs H is a good stick and very supportive of my sticking plastic together and she loves airshows, to the extent that she likes me to build stuff we've seen hence this one which we saw at Yeovilton last year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modelholic Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I might be way off here...but. measure the fuselage length on the painting guide multiply by 72 (or model scale) = ??? measure the same dimension on the model, then divide ??? by the result. Then multiply the painting guide by that result Then convert to %, scan and enlarge by that amount and print. I think... Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasacop Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 That's one to try! Thanks for that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyf117 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) Content withdrawn - I will NOT be threatened by a moderator, simply because I queried the actions of another... Edited June 27, 2020 by andyf117 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasacop Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 So basically it'll have to be a scale up plus a bit for the queen and adjust from there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyf117 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) Content withdrawn - I will NOT be threatened by a moderator, simply because I queried the actions of another... Edited June 27, 2020 by andyf117 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasacop Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 Cheers Andy for that. Think that's the way I'm gonna go. Trying freehand gives me the heebies! Thanks everyone for your suggestions I've just got to extract my digit now and build the thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) Having done tiger stripe Pumas, I would agree with Andy. I wouldn't get too clinical with the application of the stripes, I try and find the best shots I can find and see what points or features of the airframe that the stripes pass through or come to a point at. ie they might come to a point at a fuel cap, or coincide with a panel line etc. I then mark with pencil and paint free hand. Having said that though I'm not an airbrusher, so you might be able to do the same by applying masking tape to the relevant areas and cutting after marking with pencil. And don't forget, the white is applied over the dark green on the real subject. Sea King HC.4 ZE425 WR 28 Feb 13 4 by James Thomas, on Flickr PS I have a couple more shots if you need them Edited December 13, 2016 by 71chally 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasacop Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 Cheers for that shot and kind offer of more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaurieS Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Thinking after looking at the picture. I would use white tack rolled thinly and pressed into position . By eye easy to adjust to conform to the correct alignment. If you want a good hardish line airbrush at 90degrees. For a softer line airbrush into side of the white tack. I use white tack as I have found blue tack leaves a very slight oily looking deposit on the surface. Laurie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglierating Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 10:08 PM, andyf117 said: Simplest solution is scale up bottom, side and top views for each side, cut masks for all three..... Apply side masks first, then add corresponding top and bottom sections to each, adjusting to fit. Won't be perfect, but still better than trying to 'stretch' just the side ones.... More realistically, paint free-hand - I don't think the actual aircraft were painted using masks! Having said that, there are some very sharp edges visible here, so maybe they were! https://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonintamworth/13288480574/sizes/o/ The most common Stripys were masked at least from the mid 1990s when we were doing the IFOR and SFOR duties in the former republic of Yugoslavia.....Google SFOR sea king . That said they used to spray or brush on a temporary white for some aircraft whilst doing clockwork Norway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewolf Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 I have the Corgi 1/72 Seaking HC4 painted in the Bosnia IFOR scheme and it's pretty damn good. There are a lot of photos of it on the net which could provide a good reference for your model. Google Corgi Seaking HC4 IFOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasacop Posted December 17, 2016 Author Share Posted December 17, 2016 Thanks for all the replies chaps! Looking at the pics and having seen the real deal at Yeovil I would have definitely said it had been masked as the edges were well hard and the finish too good for a temp finish using brushes! Whichever way I go with this scheme it isn't gonna be a five minute job! On a side note I can't believe the towel rips either side of the nose aren't included in the kit! Still it's no biggy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglierating Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Well wasacop,daughter number one brought me a MkIV for Christmas. Looks pretty good .....I might invest in a rivit maker. Just looking at the instructions I can see why people who are not shall we say intimate with the beast get confused with the EW sensors and the positioning. Particularly the rear Maws sensors which were moved from the rear fuselage (empanage) to the tail pylon .In the end Sk4 mods did get quite complex ....there were fleets within fleets ...which is some feat considering there were 37 a/c. Anyway not sure when I will start or what scheme..but I have a toom and a mig 27 to finish first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasacop Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 Junglierating, I don't think you'll be disappointed with the kit! I finally got round to starting it just before Chrimbo after I had a hissy fit and lobbed my Airfix Vampire in the bin! I've been pleasantly surprised with the interior and fuselage fit so far! Can't be bottomed with adding rivets but the Eduard set is getting an airing! Still dreading the white/green camo tho! Look forward to seeing yours when you start it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglierating Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 8:37 PM, wasacop said: Junglierating, I don't think you'll be disappointed with the kit! I finally got round to starting it just before Chrimbo after I had a hissy fit and lobbed my Airfix Vampire in the bin! I've been pleasantly surprised with the interior and fuselage fit so far! Can't be bottomed with adding rivets but the Eduard set is getting an airing! Still dreading the white/green camo tho! Look forward to seeing yours when you start it! Thanks. But you fish that vampire out of the bin...then get paint stripping. Call in the repair team😃 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasacop Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 That's gonna be a bit difficult! Little Miss Wasacop got all efficient and emptied the bin! C'est la vie as they say in Bulgaria! When you get round to the Sea King watch out for the fuselage windows! They're not the best fit in the world!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasacop Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) https://www.flickr.com/gp/65123446@N03/W56963 Finished the beast! It's not the best picture but I'll post some proper ones in RFI when I've dragged the camera out! Edited January 27, 2017 by wasacop Trying to get the photo up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasacop Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 Thats better! Hope it meets approval! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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