AdrianMF Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Nice to see the Trumpeter Wellington on the go. I built the much-reviled MPM Wellington 1C and bought a Revell repop Mk2 for the stash because I liked it so much! I learned several things about Wellingtons: * The MPM kit isn't too bad once you swap front and rear turrets around (although two small turrets would be more scale-like 'coz the front one had a huge gap all around it) * The MPM kit needs a shim to get the fuselage wide enough to match the canopy (amazingly I caught this before sticking the fuselage together, for a change) * Even with the Mahoosive side windows of the 1C you can still see naff all inside the fuselage, which meant that my scratch build nav station, flare chute and Elsan were all in vain. So cheerfully consign all the internal details to the spares box! * Neither of the kits have wheel wells that would fit proper size wheels. Trumpeter does narrow wheels (shades of the original Airfix Mosquito?) and MPM has wheels that just don't fit I'm looking forward to yours - I think the fabric effect will be fine as long as you don't do a super-dark wash and dry-brush highlights all over it! Regards, Adrian 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 (edited) On 14/08/2017 at 4:02 AM, HomerJ_757 said: Hi Chris, Are you referring to the reduction gear as the domed bit? Takes the drive from the crankcase and reduces the propeller speed to prevent overspeeding. If you want to see how a radial engine works there is a guy called Ian Jimmerson on YouTube who has made a wooden radial engine to show the basic principles, 'tis a thing of beauty! Cheers, Ian Yes, that is what I am referring to. I have seen Ian's video. Nice. Have you seen this Hercules sleeve-valve video? Chris Edited August 21, 2017 by dogsbody Double posting 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amblypygid Posted August 14, 2017 Author Share Posted August 14, 2017 That's ... protopsychedelic. I was working from this as a guide (yes, I know it's not a Hercules engine, but a general guide): https://chriswauchop.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/tamf4ueng1web.jpg?w=774&h=749 Which I think may be your site, Chris? New camera on the way, hopefully image quality will improve (or, at least, I shall have to find different excuses)! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amblypygid Posted August 20, 2017 Author Share Posted August 20, 2017 And, suddenly, there was an airframe... Virtually no filler required thus far, though I fully expect the primer to reveal some seams, especially along the fuselage halves. The slight misalignment on the port elevator is my doing; I only noticed it when I came to attach it, and by then I felt it was too late to rectify. The wing construction works pretty well but anyone that wants to adjust the aileron will need to make some changes as they are fixed into position by five parts: I did have some slight problems with the fit of the u/c bays on both wings. I couldn't quite clamp everything together on the first wing, but some slight surgery on the second made the fit far better. Not too far away from primer; I need to attach the engines, the bomb-bay doors (closed), and mask the windscreen and side windows. I'm not going to get it done before the Floatplane GB starts, though. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTiger66 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 It's going well Chris All'of a sudden we have a Wimpy! The way the structure looks on the wings reminds me of the Matchbox Wellesley. I quite like it . A nice steady build; it looks like it will just tick away at the side of the floatplane. TonyT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amblypygid Posted August 21, 2017 Author Share Posted August 21, 2017 Ah, I never built the Matchbox Wellesley, though their Wellington is one of the few kits I can remember building when I was a kid, over a wet weekend at my godparents' house. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amblypygid Posted August 21, 2017 Author Share Posted August 21, 2017 Incidentally, those pictures are from the tablet camera. I'd like to congratulate Canon on taking an Apple approach and making a wifi-capable camera that requires proprietary software to transfer photos to another device, which in turn requires that you register with their cloud photo service, even if you never intend to use it, and then insists that devices are paired using a one-time code (I say one-time, but in fact they just generate the word Camera followed by two digits, so the security this provides is fantastic). After which, the camera tells you it's waiting, until it runs out of power. That's a lot of effort to transfer a jpg. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Great stuff Chris, she's really coming together now. I like that structural detail, really shows off the unusual construction. I've an urge to build another Wimpy now I share your frustration with 'WiFi connected' cameras. My Nikon CoolPix has a similar feature but it takes ages to 'negotiate' a connection and then you're tied to the app. I just plug it in, much easier! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTiger66 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I'm not sure if it works with everything, but there's a useful fast photo-transfer function on the iPhone: Airdrop. Just take a pic, then airdrop it to a nearby computer, wife's/daughter's phone/tablet etc. I'm surprised by how easily it works, in fact, that it works at all, but it's useful. I realise that I'm providing probably completely useless information.,. It's just that until recently I thought this was a mysterious and tricky dark art . I'm increasingly using the computer to back up photos after the PhotoMuppet debarcle. External hard drives too, even DVD back ups of the most important ones. Becoming a bit paranoid about photos . Best regards TonyT 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amblypygid Posted August 21, 2017 Author Share Posted August 21, 2017 Google pretty much works automatically - every picture taken on our tablet is uploaded to Google Photos when there's a wifi network available. At home, that means it's done before you can navigate to the upload function. From there I download them to my computer and then upload them to Village Photo. I had an iPhone back in 2010 and didn't get on with it at all. However, I'm not sure that I like the new generation of Android phones much better. Too much of what the UI designers deemed as intuitive is not intuitive to me in the slightest, and since they seem not to provide alternate methods (or any instructions), that's enormously frustrating. One of the things I've come to like about Microsoft products is that there's usually several ways to take an action, but I'm not sure whether that's the case for their phone OS. Anyway, I now have a USB connector for the camera. But it doesn't charge the battery (as far as I can tell), so I'm still waiting for the charger to arrive. Sigh. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Ravver loverly to catch up with this Chris. Having recently acquired one of these Trumperys it's most pleasing to be able to sit back and watch how this develops as a build - the very best of luck with it. I too was a little agog at the depth of surface relief for the geodesics on this kit. Doing some picture research some time ago on the IWM archive revealed this rather delicious shot of an early mark showing surface detail thrown up along the wings by a low sun-angle in relation to the aircraft: 'Quilted' I think is the phrase best describes it... Tony 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amblypygid Posted August 21, 2017 Author Share Posted August 21, 2017 That is a nice photo, Tony, thanks for sharing. That design has a certain elegance to it. Wouldn't surprise me to find that Barnes Wallis designed the golden ratio into it or something. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 4 hours ago, TheBaron said: Ravver loverly to catch up with this Chris. Having recently acquired one of these Trumperys it's most pleasing to be able to sit back and watch how this develops as a build - the very best of luck with it. I too was a little agog at the depth of surface relief for the geodesics on this kit. Doing some picture research some time ago on the IWM archive revealed this rather delicious shot of an early mark showing surface detail thrown up along the wings by a low sun-angle in relation to the aircraft: 'Quilted' I think is the phrase best describes it... Tony A nice picture but I think you would only get that pillowing effect while in-flight, as the lesser air pressure over the upper surface causes this. While sitting on the ground, it would be far less noticeable. Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 8 hours ago, dogsbody said: A nice picture but I think you would only get that pillowing effect while in-flight, as the lesser air pressure over the upper surface causes this. While sitting on the ground, it would be far less noticeable. Chris That would be my understanding also Chris, given the absence of patterning that intense on static aircraft. Iirc something similar is mentioned in one of Chas Bowyer's books on the Wellington. Tony 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amblypygid Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 Work, combined with an imminent brief holiday, means that progress is about to be suspended. But I can now extract pictures from the camera, albeit by putting the SD card in a reader. Here's one I took of the fit problems I had with the u/c bay: I found that by thinning down some of the plastic at the bottom of the bay enclosure (the top in the picture, of course), the fit improved; it appears to be more about the pins that hold it in place than the overall size of the bay. This also shows the large attachment points that Trumpeter has placed on the leading edge of the wing (repeated on the elevators), which was not particularly friendly of them. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Russell Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Additional details for 100 Group Wellington 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Russell Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 The Wellington X depicted on the excellent DK Decals sheet is LP345. It was delivered to 48MU 20/3/44 then 192 Sqn 30/3/44. It had a heavy landing after engine problems on take-off 16/8/44 - burst tyres and fire. SOC 5/9/44. Replaced as DT-G by NA724. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTiger66 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 It's getting there Chris Not much wiggle room for the undercarriage bay but it looks like you've got it fitted nicely Tony's photograph is very nice, I would be quite happy with a huge print of that on my office wall . Have a great mini-holiday! Best regards TonyT 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amblypygid Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 Ed, that's brilliant; thanks. Is that from Streetley? Would they have carried all that equipment or is that illustrating the possibilities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amblypygid Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 Ah, answered my own question: Espionage in the Ether, a book of which I was utterly unaware before now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Russell Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Yes indeed, you have answered your own question correctly. My understanding is that aircraft may carry any combination including the full fit-out. Unfortunately the pictures in that book are poor-quality thumbnails which make determining aerial fits impossible. Given the secrecy attached to 100 Group, there are a surprising number of them though and a lot of nose-art. I imagine that somewhere there are good quality versions but I have never seen them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexN Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Watching this with great interest, Chris. I have a 1/48 Trumpeter Mk Ic Welly in the collection, awaiting a rainy day (rare as hens' teeth around here lately ). I would expect that the fabric on the undersides would be pushed up into the airframe (i.e., in the same dierction as that billowing up on the upper surfaces. Great photo via @The Baron . Cheers, Alex. <-- not an airframe covering 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexN Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Where's the Welly? Did it suddenly turn into the well-known floatplane version? >snigger< Looking forward to its eventual return in its less-well-known wheeled version. Cheers, Alex. <-- not a floatplane - or a Wellibomber... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amblypygid Posted September 9, 2017 Author Share Posted September 9, 2017 Sorry, Alex. Holiday plus work plus a failure to take a decision about how to set about all those aerials, means that the Wimpey sits unfinished. I have very few building materials except for those that I can scavenge from my wife's jewellery materials, but I'm planning to go to the St Ives modelling show in a fortnight, so that might be the place I need. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Russell Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Most of those aerials are just rods and poles. You should be okay with brass wire or similar. Maybe a piece of etched brass offcut or plastic bits for the window chute and cone aerial. I can send you pictures if that will help. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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