Airfix 1/72 Phantom FG1

[shatters]

6 minutes ago, Antoine said:

Pugwash???

Child's cartoon series from the 1970s, search captain pugwash on YouTube.

 

Phil

[Hook]

1 hour ago, Geoff_B said:

The early 899 sorry I mean 43 sqdn jets (Yes 43sqdn nicked the Aircraft ordered for HMS Eagle and 899 Squadron), are actually not easy to come by, they were on an very early Xtradecal sheet and now OOP

 

Now I feeld old - I actually have that one in the stash! 

 

Cheers,

 

Andre

[Dave Fleming]

I wonder if the kit will have the underfuselage strengthening straps fitted to late service aircraft - the 3D model had them

[At Sea]

20 hours ago, Homebee said:

Xtradecal - ref. 72268 - McDonnell Douglas Phantom FG.1 Collection pt.1

 

- XT866/W - Phantom Post-Operational Conversion Unit - RN Leuchars 1970s;
- XT859 725/VL - 700P NAS Intensive Flying Trials Unit - RN Yeovilton 1968;
- XV567 011/R - 892 Sqn on HMS Ark Royal selection - cross decking with USS Saratoga 1969;
- XT872 005/R - 892 Sqn on HMS Ark Royal selection - 1973;
- XT860 014/R - 892 Sqn on HMS Ark Royal selection - 1976;
- XV590 001/R - 892 Sqn on HMS Ark Royal selection -Colonial Navy cross decking with USS Saratoga 1978 with final cruise nose flash;
- XT865 004/R - 892 Sqn on HMS Ark Royal selection - 1978;
- XT872 004/R - 892 Sqn on HMS Ark Royal selection - 1977;
- XT863 014/R - 892 Sqn on HMS Ark Royal selection - 1977 with FAA Jubilee nose flash;
- XT864 007/R - 892 Sqn on HMS Ark Royal selection - 1975 with final cruise nose flash;

 

 

  

 

 

V.P.

 

 

 

Well S**T the bed mate!  Wow.  I'm going to be so poor. 

[Gene K]

20 hours ago, Max Headroom said:

I will get one but fancy this one....

http://www.na3t.org/images/thumbs/air/WB00063-25.jpg

 

Here's the full size of the itty bitty thumbnail:

Gene K

Edited April 22, 2017 by Gene K

[At Sea]

That's on this sheet:

 

http://www.rammodels.co.uk/product_info.php/products_id/358

[DAG058]

 

Here is an Interview to get you all in the mood for Phantoms! 

 

[Dave Fleming]

On 22/04/2017 at 3:41 PM, Gene K said:

 

Here's the full size of the itty bitty thumbnail:

Gene K

 

Couple of colour images posted on the British F4 Phantom group recently. 

[71chally]

Apart from XV579 157, can anyone confirm the identity of the other camo Navy Phantom?

I think it was XV572 but can't any pictures of it.

[sloegin57]

45 minutes ago, 71chally said:

Apart from XV579 157, can anyone confirm the identity of the other camo Navy Phantom?

I think it was XV572 but can't any pictures of it.

 

It was XV572.  Loaned to 767NAS in camo as VL-156 between 6/5/69 and 24/3/70 then to 43Sqdn later as 'C' by 9/72.  By 3/73 had become 'N'.

 

There is a poor and small photo of it on the last page of Pete Fosters write up on the RAF Phantom in the Ian Allen Aircraft Illustrated Special, from which the information above is taken.

 

ISBN 0-7110-1870-7 is the reference

 

HTH

 

Dennis

[71chally]

Many thanks for the information Dennis.

[XV571]

Hi James,

 

Here's one of XV572/156: http://www.na3t.org/air/photo/WB00064-37

 

As well as the one mentioned by Dennis, there is also a low quality photo on page 79 in the Osprey Air Combat series book 'McDonnell Douglas F-4K and F-4M Phantom II' by Michael Burns. It's in a line-up of 767NAS next to XV579. Better still there's a colour photo on page 123 of the Double Ugly book 'British Phantoms Volume 1'.

 

HTH,

 

Jonathan

[XV107]

On 4/22/2017 at 11:29 AM, Wez said:

 

And then got disbanded in 1918 and didn't reform as the FAA until 1937

 

Airfix are going to do quite well out of me this year, several RAF Phantoms, RAF ASR Walrus and Cuban Sea Fury...

 

...I take it the Airfix Toom will be coming with Air Defence weapons fit?

 

[Pedantry] The FAA formed in 1924 as part of the RAF and although the decision was made in 1937, the FAA was transferred to Admiralty control in May 1939 (IIRC). So the RN never got the RNAS back; the RAF had the FAA taken from it...[/Pedantry] 

 

<satisfied blue touch paper is lit, retires to safe distance>

If you look about halfway down this page at the 3D CAD rendering, it looks like options of either the 2in RP pod or AIM-9 are in the pipeline, with AIM-7 as standard.

[Wez]

5 hours ago, XV107 said:

 

[Pedantry] The FAA formed in 1924 as part of the RAF and although the decision was made in 1937, the FAA was transferred to Admiralty control in May 1939 (IIRC). So the RN never got the RNAS back; the RAF had the FAA taken from it...[/Pedantry] 

 

<satisfied blue touch paper is lit, retires to safe distance>

If you look about halfway down this page at the 3D CAD rendering, it looks like options of either the 2in RP pod or AIM-9 are in the pipeline, with AIM-7 as standard.

 

First rule of inter-service banter - don't let the truth get in the way of a good piddle taking!  But, thanks for the history lesson.

 

Thanks too for the link, Cinders!  You shall go to the ball in your air defence fit (and appropriate colour scheme )

[Tailspin Turtle]

For what it's worth: http://tailhooktopics.blogspot.com/2012/05/spey-powered-phantom-changes.html

 

Additions and corrections welcome but note that this post is intended to cover only through the as-delivered configuration.

[Robert]

The Xtradecal have been released https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/X72268 but still have not been corrected. Would have been a sheet to buy but not as it stands.

[Eric B.]

6 hours ago, Robert said:

The Xtradecal have been released https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/X72268 but still have not been corrected. Would have been a sheet to buy but not as it stands.

 

Hi Robert, 

 

Could you please devellop : I am no specialist but might have been interested - What are the problems with the decal sheet.

 

Regards

 

Eric B.

[Robert]

On page 18 of this thread. The post from Dennis

 

[Eric B.]

Thank you dearly Robert, 

 

Cheers 

 

Eric B.

[sloegin57]

On 6 January 2017 at 2:18 PM, Dave Fleming said:

 

Hmm, not sure, at a first glance the fin marking on XT866 is wrong (it's effectively a rotated square, that one looks squashed) and the 892 diamonds should be longer and thinner

 

Does anyone know just who designs the decals for Xtradecal these days ?.  

 

[cardiff guy]

Maybe with the renewed interest the RN will bring this one out for us all to see.

 

She is kept in the corner of the historic flight hanger at Yeovilton.

 

 

I Like the look of the xtra decals but please beware of the roundel placement on the upper wing , they are just not where the RAF put theirs, they are slightly more inboard

 

 

Edited May 13, 2017 by cardiff guy

[Dave Fleming]

6 hours ago, sloegin57 said:

 

Does anyone know just who designs the decals for Xtradecal these days ?.  

 

 

Jon Freeman does a lot of theirs these days, not sure if this is one of his.

Edited May 14, 2017 by Dave Fleming

[sloegin57]

10 hours ago, Dave Fleming said:

 

Jon Freeman does a lot of theirs these days, not sure if this is one of his.

 

Really ?.  I though that Jon had packed it in for a while.  I agree with you regarding the misshapen fin markings but it is up to individuals to purchase, or not, known inaccurate decals.  I cannot recommend them.

 

There is also the question of the placement of the underwing serials.  Commencing '74/75, underwing serials were moved inboard on all UK Phantoms.  This was to facilitate outer mainplane changes as the spar problems in that area are beginning to manifest themselves.  Long story short, this resulted in areas of pant being removed on the undersurface to facilitate NDI inspections and ultimately new outer mainlines being fitted (after my time though).  

 

The only 892NAS FG.1 still with the underwing serials over the outer main plane was XV592 "R-005" which did not deploy for the Arks last cruise.  It was later joined, from Brough, by XV587 "R-009" and were the last two Navy Phantoms at Leuchars, looked after by a very small Naval Team, the "Royal Navy Phantom Support Unit".   

 

XV592 was displayed in launch mode at the Leuchars Open Day on the 3/9/78 and a week later, on the 9/9/78, two deployed F-4's,  XT872 and XV591 visited Leuchars to complete final Admin tasks including processing the remnants of the ground crew who were either discharged the Service or given new drafts.  They also signed the hangar "back" to the RAF and the Army, the latter who, had already taken up residence.  The two visitors departed for the ship, handled by the local TASF,  the following day.  Once we in Eng Ops had made arrangements with St Athans to accept the two remaining aircraft, they were despatched to St. Athans, handled and flown by 111Sqdn air and ground crews, on the morning of the 27/9/78. 

 

I wonder if Jon was also involved with the two Victor sheets, one of which has already been revised.  If not, then there must be someone at Hannants with a slightly sick and warped mind concerning one of the subjects.  The same goes for the Great Wall 144th kit.

 

Thanks Dave

 

Dennis

Edited May 14, 2017 by sloegin57

[Dave Fleming]

23 hours ago, sloegin57 said:

 

Really ?.  I though that Jon had packed it in for a while. 

 

I wonder if Jon was also involved with the two Victor sheets, one of which has already been revised.  If not, then there must be someone at Hannants with a slightly sick and warped mind concerning one of the subjects.  The same goes for the Great Wall 144th kit.

 

Thanks Dave

 

Dennis

 

I think he still does some work - He did stuff for Gary Madgwick's new company. The Victor sheets are certainly in Jon's style, Maybe not the F4 one but the drawings match one he previously did.

[Truro Model Builder]

On 5/13/2017 at 10:36 PM, cardiff guy said:

Maybe with the renewed interest the RN will bring this one out for us all to see.

 

She is kept in the corner of the historic flight hanger at Yeovilton.

 

 

 

 

Usually rolled out for Air Day each year.