spaddad Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Hi Jan, looking very good but can I make a small observation, although I fear it may be too late if you have already printed the boxes. With regard to the colour schemes you state that they have silver or gold "imatriculation", I have never seen this word before so checked my Oxford dictionary & they don't include it. I think what you mean is registration which is the normally accepted presentation in English, hope this helps, spad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Polc Posted February 27, 2018 Author Share Posted February 27, 2018 Hey spad..., do not criticise my perfect Czenglish... :-) I will correct it, we have time. Thank you. It looks I can not work when I am tired... My head is getting older and older. (I am looking forward to Newcastle Ale in November... :-) ) 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 One thing for sure about Newcastle Brown Ale - it won't help to clear your head. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Ranger Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 (edited) Jan: I don't mean to be hypercritical, but I suggest a better word than "imatriculation" would be "registration" (plural: "registrations") or "registration marks". "Imatriculation" (correct spelling "immatriculation") is (1) the process of registration or enrollment, such as at a university or college. "Registration" is a common or even official term for the letters and numbers used to identify individual aircraft, whereas "imatriculation" is largely unknown when referring to aircraft registrations; at least it is in the U.S. (Oops! I posted this before seeing Spaddad's earlier post on the same subject. My apologies. I'll still buy the kit - maybe more than one - regardless of what you call the registrations!) Edited February 27, 2018 by Space Ranger Update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Polc Posted February 27, 2018 Author Share Posted February 27, 2018 Friends, thank you. Just to explain - we also have immatriculation as a process of enrollment to the college, I have passed one many years ago... But, we also use word "imatriculation" for aircraft registration here in Czech Republic. That is the origin of my mistake. It is corrected now, it will be okay on the boxes. Anyway, thank you for your comments, I can promise that this mistake was for the last time. (It is not possible to forget Britmodeller lesson on it.) BTW - this is why I am publishing previews here time to time - to discover any problematic points. Enjoy evening boys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Ranger Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Jan, I wish all kit manufacturers were as progressive as KP/AZ in seeking comment from modelers prior to release of a new kit. There would be far fewer inaccurate models if others did the same. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaddad Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 9 hours ago, Jan Polc said: Hey spad..., do not criticise my perfect Czenglish... :-) I will correct it, we have time. Thank you. It looks I can not work when I am tired... My head is getting older and older. (I am looking forward to Newcastle Ale in November... :-) ) Just draw comfort from the fact that your English is a hell of a lot better than my Czech. My Czech = pivo prosim, velkhe, which is all you need really. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripod Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 On the subject of small amendments, I notice that the second pilot of the green one is referred to as "Oven Cathcart". This should be "Owen Cathcart-Jones". The exploits of the green Comet are generally forgotten, but after the black one broke the record from England to Karachi and the red one broke the England to Australia record, they loaded the newsreel films into the green one and flew it back to England, breaking the record for the return journey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaddad Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 On 2/27/2018 at 5:37 PM, Jan Polc said: Friends, thank you. Just to explain - we also have immatriculation as a process of enrollment to the college, I have passed one many years ago... But, we also use word "imatriculation" for aircraft registration here in Czech Republic. That is the origin of my mistake. It is corrected now, it will be okay on the boxes. Anyway, thank you for your comments, I can promise that this mistake was for the last time. (It is not possible to forget Britmodeller lesson on it.) BTW - this is why I am publishing previews here time to time - to discover any problematic points. Enjoy evening boys. Glad to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Polc Posted March 1, 2018 Author Share Posted March 1, 2018 Hi friends, work on DH-88 are in progress. The second boxing is called "From prototype to Silver Birds". Prototype has another nose, our kit will contain some alternative parts, so to build prototype is easy thing. Preview of the box camo schemes are in the link, picture is in English... - http://www.modelarovo.cz/dh-88-comet-from-prototype-to-silver-birds/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I'm not a Comet specialist, but I was surprised to see the suggestion that The Burberry was silver. It doesn't look it in the photograph. I can't justify this with references, but I understood it was a light grey of some kind - much as the famous overcoats it was named after (sponsored by, presumably). I believe the same colours were carried by The Orphan. There may be some reference in Clouston's biography "The Dangerous Skies" but I haven't seen my copy for some decades and couldn't find it this morning. (My copy of the book shows the Comet as red in the Paris-Damascus race, but I don't place any credibility on that artwork!). When I saw the name of the boxing I was expecting to see it in its RAF markings - it was certainly silver then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Polc Posted March 1, 2018 Author Share Posted March 1, 2018 Thank you Graham for your comment, I will check it once more with my friend, but info I have now is that the orphan and the Burberry were Silver, or Aluminium. We have time to correct it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Still no sign of Clouston's book, but Putnam' De Havilland Aircraft by A J Jackson states that "The Orphan" was painted pale blue, but says nothing about"The Burberry"'s colours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Holden Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 It was painted a shade of pale blue/grey named something exotic like 'Autumn Mist' IIRC. There was a posting on here a few years ago by Iain Wyllie, giving the exact colour, which I can no longer find. I doubt that the prototype colour scheme was green, either..... http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234935468-dh88-prototype-colour/&tab=comments#comment-1251033 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 (edited) Jan, if you're doing decals for The Orphan & The Burberry, how about slipping in some for Australian Anniversary which was the final identity of G-ACSS on that colour scheme & the one in which Clouston & Ricketts set a UK to New Zealand return flight record in early1938. https://www.thisdayinaviation.com/26-march-1938/ Don't forget the small Castrol signs on the engines, very important to this scheme. I'd have to buy two of these then. Steve. Edited March 1, 2018 by stevehnz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I haven't found Iain Wylie's piece either, but I did find this via the Civil Classic forum here, a thread called The Gentlemanly Pursuit, post 123. Whirlybird decals will also provide details of the scheme for these aircraft, but I've been unable to get into their website for colour details. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Polc Posted March 1, 2018 Author Share Posted March 1, 2018 Discussion still open, thank you. stevenz - yes it is planned to include neccessary decals as a bonus into decal sheet. With Castrol logos... :-) This kind of discussion is very useful, thanks. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaddad Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Hi guys, just followed Steves link & if you read the text it states that 'The Burberry' was repainted Beige which would seem eminently sensible as this was more or less the colour of the gabardine Burberry coat of the owners/sponsors. I could deffo go for the RAF version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarLos Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 To be completely accurate the prototype boxing should include Hamilton Standard and Ratier props (and spinners, and different logo decals). "The Orphan" with the racing number G-16 shows yet different props... Different air intakes would be needed also. And previously, before the cheat line was painted, the fuselage included only a comet in the port side. Not an easy subject, the Comet. Carlos (I restored the photos in the thread pointed above by Roger Holden). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazontipede Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 (edited) A little further info and confirmation on the colour comes from the December 2017 copy of Aeroplane magazine, which has a little section from the Aeroplane archive on p103 talking about the Burberry's flight to South Africa crewed by Arthur Clouston and Betty Kirby-Green. Some photos of the a/c and a brief comment on colour. "In recognition the Comet was renamed "The Burberry" and painted in the company's beige house colours." Edited March 2, 2018 by Gazontipede Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Which probably means it carried the same scheme in its Aussie Anniversary identity. I wonder what the trim/rego colours were at this time? Pale grey/mid blue seems to have been the accepted scheme for ages. Beige with green trim/ rego? What other colours are in the Burberry logo? Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixII Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Hi Steve, Burberry 'house' colours are Beige, Black, White and Red. In % terms, 80%, 10%, 5% and 5% so a guess would be either Red or Black OR could have been Sky Blue Pink shot through with Rhubarb stripes! Paul 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazontipede Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 (edited) Looking at the photos in the Aeroplane article, I'd say the trim and lettering on The Burberry definitely ain't black. Possibly maroon (?), although it appears quite pale in the photos. The 'flag' on the front fuselage appears to be the same colour as the trim, but the equestrian knight logo inside looks paler/brighter than the airframe colour, so white perhaps? Also, according to the article, it had been fited with a tailwheel during its mid-37 rebuild. (Which is not apparent in Steve's link which shows ACSS in the Aussie Anniversary scheme.) FWIW: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burberry#/media/File:Burberry_pattern.svg Edited March 2, 2018 by Gazontipede Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixII Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gazontipede said: Looking at the photos in the Aeroplane article, I'd say the trim and lettering on The Burberry definitely ain't black. Possibly maroon (?), although it appears quite pale in the photos. The 'flag' on the front fuselage appears to be the same colour as the trim, but the equestrian knight logo inside looks paler/brighter than the airframe colour, so white perhaps? Also, according to the article, it had been fited with a tailwheel during its mid-37 rebuild. (Which is not apparent in Steve's link which shows ACSS in the Aussie Anniversary scheme.) FWIW: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burberry#/media/File:Burberry_pattern.svg There ya go, it WAS Sky Blue Pink shot through with Rhubarb stripes https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/the-de-havilland-dh88-comet-burberry-at-gravesend-kent-before-its-picture-id88898882 The Equestrian Knight logo is traditionally gold:- http://scarfcdn.yournextshoes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Burberry-official-seal-packaging.jpg Best of luck working it out from black and white prints. Edited March 2, 2018 by PhoenixII possible colour answer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleeperService Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 About The Burberry. Has anyone thought of contacting Burberry the Company? It's the sort of business that would keep all sorts of stuff. They may even have a record of the colour scheme which, even then, they would have final approval on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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