Phartycr0c Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Folks, just watched a live feed on Facebook , the Norwegians have just launched a twin seat F104 on its first test flight. Never thought I would see one fly ever, now to go an see it in the flesh. http://starfighter.no/ exited or what? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightningboy2000 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Whooohooo!!!! Fabulous Lockheed power!!!! That was an awesome take off! Just seen the live feed recording which is still on there. Made my day! https://www.facebook.com/groups/236405679823718/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4u Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Great news the 104 has flown what a sound well done to the team. Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 What a lovely sight and sound. Fairford next year? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batcode Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 beautiful thing to see and what a sound.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phartycr0c Posted September 29, 2016 Author Share Posted September 29, 2016 12 hours ago, bentwaters81tfw said: . Fairford next year? Would be great, but I think its banned together with the Viggen and Draken apparently due to being privately owned complex afterburning aircraft. The same reason the Lightnings at Brunty are grounded. I do stand to be corrected on this but the CAA regs are very stringent. Im thinking a visit to the continent will be required to see these in the flesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffreyK Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 I would travel to Norway for this! Would be highly interested to know if there is some sort of flying schedule planned for next year... J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 So how did the Viggen and Draken appear at Waddo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phartycr0c Posted September 29, 2016 Author Share Posted September 29, 2016 2 hours ago, bentwaters81tfw said: So how did the Viggen and Draken appear at Waddo? Ah good point. I did say I stand to be corrected I didnt relaise they had attended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffreyK Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 As being part of the Swedish Air Force historical flight they are on the military register, not civilian (I think). I also seem to have read somewhere that the Norwegian Starfighter is military as well, but not sure about that. Jeffrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 The Swedish Historic Flight aircrafts are on the civil Swedish register. As they are approved for flying by the Swedish CAA equivalent, I'd expect them to be able to fly anywhere in Europe. However from what I've read the CAA has recently stated that in order to take part in a display, the pilots must hold a British Display Authorisation, something that the CAA may refuse to pilots holding a foreign DA that intend to fly high performance aircrafts. So these aircrafts may fly over the UK but not display. If things stay this way, there's little chance that the Norwegian 104 will ever perform at a British airshow as it's civilian registered aircraft too. This is course a pity as watching a Starfighter display is a great experience ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spruecutter96 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Would REALLY love to see this in the UK in 2017. Don't think I've ever even seen a Starfighter in static before now. Oh, Gods of Happy UK Airshow Enthusiasts, can you please make it so....? Cheers. Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truro Model Builder Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Beautiful sight and sound. There is a possibility of seeing it in the UK. The CAA were not happy with the Swedish DA paperwork, hence why the Swedish Historic Flight are no longer coming here, BUT the Norwegian Vampire duo and MiG-15 are flown by pilots with Norwegian-issued DAs, so watch this space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorth Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 I hope they can get down to the continent. Having it at the annual NATO Days show in Ostrava would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnT Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 I must say that it is great to see an F-104 getting airborne again. That howl they made in certain flight regimes was just spine tingling. I guess being old has advantages. All those 70's airshows with types all now confined to the museums. Displays by several Lightnings together. Buccaneers, F-104s Fiats, Phantoms, and all the "heavies" now all sadly just a yellowing photograph and no longer to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffreyK Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 3 hours ago, Giorgio N said: The Swedish Historic Flight aircrafts are on the civil Swedish register. As they are approved for flying by the Swedish CAA equivalent, I'd expect them to be able to fly anywhere in Europe. However from what I've read the CAA has recently stated that in order to take part in a display, the pilots must hold a British Display Authorisation, something that the CAA may refuse to pilots holding a foreign DA that intend to fly high performance aircrafts. So these aircrafts may fly over the UK but not display. If things stay this way, there's little chance that the Norwegian 104 will ever perform at a British airshow as it's civilian registered aircraft too. This is course a pity as watching a Starfighter display is a great experience ! Ah, ok. I stand corrected. Sorry for providing wrong information earlier... I hope there will be some airshow participation, or at least some public displays, if not in GB then at least in Norway... The F-104 is everything a jet fighter is about for me, certainly heavily influenced by my childhood in Germany. Never seen it flying a display though. Jeffrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4u Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, Phartycr0c said: Ah good point. I did say I stand to be corrected I didnt relaise they had attended. The CAA will no longer grant display authorisation to the pilots of the Draken and Viggen and will be the same for the Starfighter. Edit Jeffrey beat me to it ! Guy Edited September 29, 2016 by F4u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 That's a bummer. Loved to see the Vikings and the Tiger Romeos routine. Lots of noise and smoke, and very fast down low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vingtor Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 6 hours ago, JeffreyK said: I also seem to have read somewhere that the Norwegian Starfighter is military as well, but not sure about that. On the Norwegian civil register, LN-STF. Nils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phartycr0c Posted September 30, 2016 Author Share Posted September 30, 2016 DA's and CAA regulations, thats where I was getting muddled up. ..........Anyhow, I like Norway . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightningboy2000 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 On 28/09/2016 at 7:39 PM, bentwaters81tfw said: What a lovely sight and sound. Fairford next year? Would have been nice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4u Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 (edited) Don't know if the Viggen, Draken or the Norwegian Starfighter could fly into the UK for a static dispay or the CAA flattly refuse any flying in UK airspace ? Guy Edited October 1, 2016 by F4u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Knowing the CAA............ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4u Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 28 minutes ago, bentwaters81tfw said: Knowing the CAA............ Your probably right , after burning jets !!..... Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 We need an 'Experimental' classification, like the US and France. The CAA really get my goat at times. Jobsworths. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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