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So am I!

I think it's going to work! So I'm secretly happy with myself.

 

I've currently given up with this area for the time being, this part was mentally taxing! I spent the last session marking and cutting all of the various extra windows, (update later today) I still need a plan for glazing! (I really hope clear plastic sheet will work! I may need to invest in clear fix)

 

Also, I really need a plan for the floorpan/bulkheads, I've looked at one persons method for cutting these.

If it works, he will get a mention and a link.......

 

I've done the usual, piece it together to see how it flies business, it flies good! Even without engines!

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Fw200 C-4/U2 1/72 fuselage.
Blanking plate to fill void from the full length gondola. Plasticard held in place, draw outline, cut out with scissors about 1mm from line, filed to final shape. Also filed off the fairing, just a dab of filler to finish.
Window cut outs, before during and after. These just need a bit of tidying. Actually this part was easier than I imagined, marked out with vernier which was pressed in to mark the piece, points highlighted with a pencil, join the dots style with a steel rule and the trusty no.11 blade. Each corner marked with pin vice and drill, the pin vice was then put into the cordless to finish the hole. Larger drill in cordless to give room to get a blade in. Finally cut out with a chisel edge blade, corners finished with the no.11.
Masking tape marks areas that need filling/blanking off. All that remains is to remove the forward cabin ventilation duct to be repositioned further aft.
 
Very close to actually building this thing! Just short on one cabin.......

 

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This is inspiring modelling :) 

 

I really like the work on the gondola, also thanks for the description on how you created the windows, and the tools used.

 

This build thread has lightened my wallet. I won an Evilbay auction for the Revell FW 200 passenger variant. I may actually try to make Uncle Adolf's aircraft :o !

 

One day :waiting: 

 

All best regards

Tony

 

PS: Any advice on areas of the kit that need correction etc most gratefully received; I'm afraid to me you recently became BM resident 'Condor' expert Jamie ;) .

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19 hours ago, TonyTiger66 said:

This is inspiring modelling :) 

 

I really like the work on the gondola, also thanks for the description on how you created the windows, and the tools used.

 

This build thread has lightened my wallet. I won an Evilbay auction for the Revell FW 200 passenger variant. I may actually try to make Uncle Adolf's aircraft :o !

 

One day :waiting: 

 

All best regards

Tony

 

PS: Any advice on areas of the kit that need correction etc most gratefully received; I'm afraid to me you recently became BM resident 'Condor' expert Jamie ;) .

(I mean this with the greatest respect, a hint of sarcasm, and a spoonful of banter)

 

Wow, I'm glad I inspired you! (If you get into trouble, it's not my fault type disclaimer!)

 

Yeah I'm pleased with what I've done so far, so thank you for noticing! I'm sure I wrote down what I did for my benefit but if it helps anyone, that's cool! Like I say about those windows, I really thought that would be a pain, but in reality, I was fretting over nothing.

 

That egg timer dude is spot on (that pretty much sums up this whole scenario perfectly my end too! It's been ages before I finally got started on this!)

 

Im no expert though, so I'll put a stop to that thought straight away,:bangin:

I've only read a couple of books, looked at a few pictures and collaborated that data. As always though, if I can help, I will!

 

I'm fairly sure that Immelmann III 26+00 is the bird you can build. I'm also certain that Mr Hitler flew several Condor variants. CE+IB was my original target! but after finding those decals for dönitz, well, bye bye Adolf! :mg: :fuhrer:

(Where else could you use that?)

 

I think you should add a what's in the box pic here if you could, please!:pray:

 

:cheers:

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Fw200 C-4/U2 1/72 interior
Working on interior, starting with the floor pan.
Measured gap between frames 4 & 5p, a piece of plastic strip was cut to length, the width was as supplied stock, actually a cracking bit of luck!
Then I started to work out how to make it fit! First cut was the notches for the main spar, then I cut little notches into the fuselage sections where the location tabs for the kit fuselage fits into. This should support the corners. Then I scribed in the front, which basically is drawing a line with a pencil to transfer the shape of the fuselage contour to the floor panel. This was then filed to suit. A centre line was marked so I could eye the piece in using the top and bottom of the fuselage to see where I was going.
 
Frame 4 bulkhead, the kit part has the location of the offset door in it. This will be the guide and template for bulkheads at frames 5 & 6.
Frame 5p bulkhead is not on the drawing for the /U2 but it does appear to be installed on the /u1 airframes (photos confirm this), everything between frames 5p & 6 is incorrect for the /U2 as the seats extend back to F6 on the starboard side. I think I will use the new interior from the C4 box.
Main spar at frame 5, this continues through the fuselage and forms a step, both the line drawing and photos confirm this.....

 

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Checking for fit! It fits!
Seats/bulkheads/fuel and oil cells/main spar........
That's about all that remains internally, I'm pleased with how this turned out.
I think it will need some support below the floor and a few other bits, but it is snug, everything closes up nicely, so if it doesn't close up later, I know it isn't this part!

 

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Fw200 C-4/U2 1/72 interior
Overall dimensions 117.4mm x 31.6mm.
The black hashed square, that's the stock width, I think the plastic was actually imperial stock (1 1/4") all the black arrows are at stock size.
The red arrow marks the main spar. Forward of the spar needed slight relief, I marked up at 0.3mm reduction overall, not per side. The vertical taper, this is rounded off on the bottom edge, much like the shape of the bubble! The kit parts have this angle/bevel.
Hopefully the sidewalls will cover up the wing root area.
At least that's an option I'm considering.........

 

 

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Fw200 C-4/U2 1/72 interior
Moving on from the floor pan.
Left side top 4 pictures.
I made up the new bulkheads at frames 5 & 6, these were scribed, then cut and sanded to fit. Lots of test fitting!
The doorways were cut out using the kit part for frame 4 as a template.
The rear section of floor (kit part rear door area) needs the bases for the stools removing.
Right side, middle 3 pics.
A new door frame was made up for the three pieces (one of which was the kit part) using 0.5x2mm strip.
1mm half round was used to add some strengthening to the bulkheads, new evidence shows this is not accurate, this group of shots is around four weeks old......
Top right pic, these parts are from the trumpeter boxing, they are the oil tank? (Schmierstoff-nachtankbehälter) that's the rounded one, and the number 1 fuselage tank (Rumpfbehälter) which is the more rectangular shape. Behind this is a box of tricks I believe to be part of the fluid metering system, rotameter/flow meter (rotamesser) But I could be wrong. It isn't needed as this area should be the WC cubicle on this particular variant. Part of the box of tricks (trumpeter part) is used, but I'm basing this assumption on a drawing (blue print) and not pictorial evidence.
Bottom 2 pics.
These show my attempt at making the tanks, it would be easier/faster to cast/copy these but I lack the materials/funds/skills/time to get involved. Maybe next year!
I still have to make the WC cubicle and a tank that sits forward of the fuselage tank 1. There are a few other odd parts in this area............

 

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Interior mock up.
New section fixed to rear section, filled and sanded.
My reproductions of the tanks.
This lot all fits inside nicely. More work on the gondola, drilling out hole for different gun mount.
Wing roots filled. Slightly melted the external areas where the filler went on too thick, had to wait a few days for it to settle, this needs fixing!

 

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Final test fit!
I'm off on holiday......
This is how I left it before I went away. I'm back!
 
I moved the cabin ventilation using photogene, just to see what it'll look like.
The complete interior plate has been installed.
The only thing I'm unsure of is the window marked with a yellow arrow. I spent some more time researching and I found some pictures that are very new to the internet, and very new to me!
They show exactly what I'm looking for and a whole bunch of details for the interior that I was only guessing at. The drawings I had for the particular aircraft I'm building are both different with errors. The new images are a lucky find!

 

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Seats, lots of seats!
This part was time consuming.....
I made a master blank for the side piece, drew around it with a pencil, cut with scissors, filed to shape. Checked against master.
Eat, sleep, repeat.
20 blanks for the sides, plus the backs and pans, that's 40 pieces in total! I tried to make milliput cushions but wasn't happy with my work. They may stay like this, again, the ability to cast would be hugely beneficial here.
Four twin seats and six single seats later, the rear cabin is almost finished! Overhead storage racks is the main item missing, I have found an excellent reference picture of this area.

 

 

 

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Hello,

I dont know what to write for your name, I feel a bit awkward writing IAD in full 😉.

 

Great progress and those seats are fantastic. WC, tanks, so much interior detail :thumbsup2: .

 

My passenger variant arrived. It had been hardly packaged at all and both fuselage halves are crushed, one is broken. I wrote to the seller and got a partial refund. It's still quite upsetting.

 

I have taken pics but don't want to hijack your thread. What about if I put them in the 'what have you bought recently' thread?

 

Im not sure if the fuselage repair is within my skills as they stand, the kit comes with very  nice decals; DHL and the sole Danish plane. I could be tempted to model the latter, it looks quite striking.

 

Keep up the good work, I hope you had a nice holiday

TonyT

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Please hijack this thread with detailed sprue shots and the box number, this is a formal invitation!

(shame about the crushing, got to be worth a salvage effort?) and at least the seller did the right thing!

 

the bright orange Danish bird, that thing will necessitate the wearing of sunglasses!

 

(hello mr tiger, my name is Jamie ;) )

Thanks for the vote of confidence on the seats, truth be told they should be a bit curved on the sides to sit better with the curve on the fuselage sides but shhhh, don't tell anyone! You'll see what I mean on my next update.

As for what's within your skillset, just do it! This is way above my skills, I'm chancing it! (Because I really want this type in my cabinet, in multiples.) so I advance you some luck with your build.

 

cheers but the holiday wasn't much technically a holiday, yes.

(A few days in the city of Bath paid for by my sister, lucky me, (beautiful place, architecture and what not) I had a nice time and really enjoyed a few days of worry free living. Now I'm back in the real world with all the troubles that it brings! good times! (Fortunately I've been blessed to be able to build this thing, at the end of this, really a great deal of gratitude should go to the mrs, she is very understanding......))

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Fw200 condor C-4/U2
New (to me) reference material. I've searched for "Admiral Dönitz fw200 condor" and many variations on that theme in the past, while trying to solve the mystery of the rear window, (highlighted with a yellow arrow in a previous upload) I stumbled across these shots, they are previously unseen!
Admiral dönitz and his aircraft!

 

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Cheers, I never thought I would have a go.

My thoughts, If you want this type, you've got no choice.

I've toyed with etch in the past, and made odd little bits, aerials and such but this is the biggest job I've ever taken on.

By miles............

A lot of the work is probably a waste of time but, well I think it's good practice, if it doesn't work out, no problem.

hopefully I will have learned some things.

(I have learned lots......)

---the main thing, if I had built the c3/u9 as marked in the trumpeter box (KE+IX), it would've been much easier, it has a full length gondola so all I would need to do is build the passenger cabin---

 

!hey ho.....too late now!

 

So far this build has made me want to try casting......

And it's surprisingly rewarding, spending whatever length of time cutting up plastic, and ending up with a reasonable representation of a picture. Even the scratch work, I can tell I've improved on this build, time wise, things are happening faster now than they were at my virtually clueless starting point!

I'm thoroughly enjoying this build, so far it's only cost just under £5 on materials I didn't already have knocking about, namely some 0.5mm square rod and some clear fix. Everything else I've had stashed or in the spares (I'll say) department! You know, things intended for other builds etc. etc. that are STILL awaiting construction!

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Fw200 C-4/U2 interior etc.
Top left pic.
The yellow dashed box. This area has a lot of parts in it. I was thinking about adding stringer and frame details to the sidewalls (both sides) , plus the brackets to hold up the de-icer? bottles above the window.
There is a smaller fuel cell (a guess from the blueprint) and a toilet cubicle (WC) which also need to be fabricated.
Between the WC and the oil? tank there is the flow meter? box.
The green outlined box (repeat opposite) is the area for the overhead storage which I've made some progress on, this can be seen in the bottom two pictures. I will lay some mesh in to complete the look (mesh from a tamiya car kit). The frame is a piece of brass rod (originally intended for a chinook interior which is on the shelf of doom) and some 1mm half round. After gluing (and waiting for the reaction) the plastic is pinched around the brass with pliers to close the gap. It slides along the rod allowing me to position later. I think it will work! Still a bit of effort needed on this.......
The white dashed box. This area has had the internal frame/stringer details removed, a few holes (for the wind deflectors at the waist position) to fill and it's ready for paint.
The white arrow points to the brackets for the waste gun, these need removing, this area needs the frame work reinstating as the window cut out would not have been cut out!
The seats are looking a little too large, this was an error on my part. They should have a slightly curved edge to fit in with the contour of the fuselage side. This would increase the corridor width slightly. I've also noticed (from my new reference pics) the doorway at frame 5 is the wrong shape/size, I copied the civilian airliner as they, at the time, were the only reference shots I had.
Right pics, top 3.
Window trials. I got some clear fix, as it's a new product I thought I'd test it. Unhappy with how tough the bond was I decided I need to beef up the joint around the windows. The last thing I want is a window pushing through after fixing the fuselage halves! The red arrows point to original kit windows (before and after mod). A piece of plastic was glued in and whittled down to give a frame for the glazing to push against. This was tested with the clear stock plastic sheet. I just need to mod. all of the frames I cut out! I've decided to replace all of the side glass with the sheet material.
I need to make the curtains up for the windows.

 

 

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Fw200 C-4/U2 interior!
Nearly there!
Top left, oil tank was slightly too big, cut down to allow room for rotameter box.
2nd left, after. (Rotameter installed)
3rd left, modified frame 5, this variant has a half leaf door here, which is different to the civilian type. It bugged me, a new frame made up from 0.5mm square rod, and the full door was also cut for this opening. I only modified the cabin side as you will not see much of the other side! You can also see the main spar boxing here.
 
Top right, alternate view f5 area.
2nd right, all plastic in! The various parts that stick to the floor pan.
3rd right, showing floor pan fitting to port side, with de-icer tank and oil pressure tank installed.
 
Bottom pic, shows the modified window frames, my cut outs had 0.5mm strip glued in and once dry, a scalpel was used to remove most of it to leave a small lip. Also worth noting the melted wing root! This side is the worst.... More filler here.
 
That's about it! Just need to finish the overhead storage and make up the curtains, maybe add a few pipes to the tank area and it's ready for paint!

 

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THANK YOU!

I'd say I'm quietly pleased with myself but that's a lie! (I am well pleased, so far!!!)

My mrs is bored of my excitement/commitment..... But she gets it! Although she doesn't fully understand how or why, but then that's a modellers secret!

(Actually I think she's bored from watching but she is encouraging my progress. Love.....funny old thing!)

I'm surprised with her reaction, as she's seen me create this from nothing, she is strangely addicted to my progress but still doesn't quite understand why it's taken several weeks to get nowhere. Still, there is joy on her face, for now!

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Reference up(over)load.

 

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FW 200 condor, operating manual.
Bedienvorscrift-Operating manual.
Page loosely translated from......
http://www.deutscheluftwaffe.de/archiv/Dokumente/ABC/f/FockeWulf/Fw 200/Fw200 C3 Bedienvorschrift.pdf

 

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FW 200 condor
Further references, these are some of the amazing pics that eluded me for some time. I've just worked out the importance of them.
Top 2 shots are inside of a standard maritime fw200 c3 with all the tanks fitted. (Left pic is what I've partially scratch built, right pic from further aft, shows the shape of the doorframe at frame 5.)
Now here's where it gets interesting, this is a part of the 2nd world war I don't know much about, intrigued I started looking around for information, and this is why builds take me so long! Very easily distracted.....
 
Middle left, (and subsequent pictures) fw200 c3/u9 KE+IX vip transport (markings in trumpeter box, as you can see, the kit is not correct!)
Bottom left, shows Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim exiting the aircraft! Commander in chief of the Finnish defence force, see the "continuation war" for more details. As I've said, this is an area I know nothing about.
Middle right, originally this pic was used to show the overhead storage and the new/revised door frame, but, facing the camera we have, (on the right) Erik Heinrichs, finlands chief of general staff, and, (sitting next to him on the left,) Aladár Paasonen, who was the chief of intelligence during the continuation war.
Bottom right, is Adolf Hitler (no intro on him) with Risto Ryti, the chap in the hat/civilian clothing, who was the 5th president of Finland.

 

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1/72 fw200 condor interior+
Pic top left.
Der Rotameters!
After looking at the operating manual, I've finally discovered what these items are!
They are readily visible in the window of these machines. Strange layout?
A vital part of the fuel system behind a sheet of glass or even Perspex.
You have one for each engine, and each is fed by a fuselage tank, they can be switched by valves to direct the fuel feed around the system.
My bracket is a fairytale affair, it's helpful for the construction of these parts, an aid to uniformity, but it is make believe. I may keep the bracket for future builds (as I have done with the master seat side blank) and fabricate something smaller......and with a better (wider) spacing.
They are usually located in the window that forms the toilet cubicle, I'm guessing it would be easy to move them forward to this location but can find no positive evidence as references on this variant are scarce. It is possible that this system is reduced as there are only one or two fuel tanks in the u1/U2 subtypes.
Pic middle left.
Items in place. They were made from 0.4mm brass rod and 1mm rod drilled out. It would have been better to make the brass section from one piece, got to love hindsight!
It seems I have previously incorrectly identified some parts!
Pic bottom left.
Oil tank mods, also with what I now believe to be part of the oil pump system, between the tank and wc cubicle, a guess based on the fact it appears in the drawing related to this tank. I've made up some valve parts so I can add fuel/oil lines. They're a bit clunky in this scale but..... It's a learning curve, and a mostly hidden one at that!
Top right pic.
Fuel cell valve mods, made up from spare and stretched sprue, cut/filed and drilled. With brass to accept the pipes (which will be from brake line hoses from a bike kit).
Pic middle right.
Brackets to hold up de-icer tank and oil pressure system tank.
Pic bottom right.
Port side installed.
Just need to add straps to tanks and fuel lines, this area is finished!
Hopefully I can paint/assemble the interior over the next week.
 

 

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FW 200 c-4/U2 condor
Baggage rails!
Overhead storage.
0.5mm square strip fitted to fuselage then the rail was fitted to this. Set with blutac to hold position while each return post located and fixed with polystyrene cement. Spacing set with vernier.
 
Mesh shown for an idea of how it will look but it needs rotating through 45 degrees. Stbd side was the most difficult as the fuselage tapers aft. Last two posts were cut in (in situ) after the main bar had set up properly.
 
Im really pleased with how this looks.....

 

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Fabulous work! I don't think I've ever seen a luggage rack on a 1/72 aeroplane build before. I don't know if you would consider installing a small LED so you can get to see some of the work when it's buttoned up?

 

Regards,

Adrian

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On 8 November 2016 at 3:49 PM, CedB said:

Some great work going on here Jamie, good stuff :)

Thanks very much, it's a bit of a headache! The worst part is finding new things out after I've called a job finished but progress is progress. I may do it all over again, in a winter coat!

On 8 November 2016 at 5:14 PM, AdrianMF said:

Fabulous work! I don't think I've ever seen a luggage rack on a 1/72 aeroplane build before. I don't know if you would consider installing a small LED so you can get to see some of the work when it's buttoned up?

 

Regards,

Adrian

Neither had I until that morning, the idea looked like it would work! So here we have a luggage rack, not much really but at least for me, it is a big deal, a surprising amount of work went into it, and those luggage racks have more parts than most kits I build.

 

About the led, simple answer is yes. Fortunately for us both my brothers new hobby is electronics! Hurrah, he has a box of bits and kits of stuff, books no less on the subject, I put it to him, he is quietly excited about the idea.

more to the point, you've asked this question at precisely the right time, another few days and I would've been forced into saying no. (Actually a good idea from you, I wouldn't have considered it but my brain was a bit troubled by hiding all of my effort, so your question rang the right bells.)

 

The best effort I've seen of a light install is a 1/48 (I think) Catalina, with pretty much the tidiest interior known to man.

Leagues above anything you may see here! (That's my disclaimer!)

Ive got as far as this;

yes it should fit (plenty of space, the WC makes a nice conduit point, already planned the curtain windows closed here, so nobody needs to see or build a 1/72 bog pan & sink!)

a reed switch would be the best option, failing that, a retro fit into the prop. I like this idea but... Plenty of challenges involved in the switch.

rechargeables should make the install easier (noting the effort of having a de mountable engine from the aforementioned tidy interior)

electroluminescence over led, but that's an entirely new foray! (Packs THE punch long term, so that's what I'm pushing for....)

If it goes wrong, I've a complete kit hiding in the wings.......what have I got to lose! (Apart from a few quid.....)

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Who's bright idea was that?
Somebody suggested led lights for this job.
Quick notes;
Circuit runs, 3.6V rechargeable lithium 2032,
4 LEDs @2.6V 19.3mA each. (If I've got that right?)
5 resistors, 75R x1, 91R x4.
Reed switch.
2Hr 45mins. (First battery used from today's delivery, includes all test work with single bulb etc. etc.)
Cost for bits about £2.90.
More to follow!

 

 

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The run up, and jump!
What happened before, "who's bright idea was that!"
(An excited iPhone snap taken and sent to my brother which was posted on the 18th November)
On the 8th November, a man known only as Adrian suggested I add an LED to show off the interior. Actually a good idea, fortunately for me my brother dabbles in home electronics.
He sent me a few links for circuit building apps and the places to shop for components.
Top pictures, one is recycled from the start of the build, but it came in useful here, it shows where I originally planned to set the battery packs, this gave me some idea of what size batteries I would need to buy. The other two shots were taken on the 9th, these basically gave me an idea of where I would run the cables, from here I decided the idea was at least viable. I also had it on good authority that a light circuit was about as basic as it gets........
At this point I knew nothing about electronics, I can wire in a plug......& 15-16 years ago I did some silver soldering and brazing but that was using an oxy acetylene torch, hot and cold flame work and definitely not fine soldering! Experience nonetheless.
Bottom pic (d7100 18th November)
First electronics component package!
Excited as a kid in a sweet shop, christmas come early!
.....and just like christmas, no battery included in the test meter!
Everything was cheap! Cheapest soldering iron, cheapest multimeter (no battery), a few resistors, LEDs, batteries (and type charger) and assorted what nots, things I thought I would need! All in, about £20 plus tools batteries and charger.
(Next few uploads fill in the blanks from here to who's bright idea......)
It really has been a great adventure!

 

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Circuit 1/1a
18/11/16
The first circuit I built!
Using the small breadboard. Hurrah, got a light to turn on, strangely enjoyable. Struggled getting the switch to work so I expanded the circuit onto a bigger breadboard.
Larger breadboard a freebie from my bro. Cheers, very useful! (So far it's also been used as a circuit tester and wiring diagram.)
Power supply separate on mini board with a switch loop, and a demo of the reed switch. Using a neodymium magnet on/off.
Great stuff. All new to me technological marvels.

 

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Circuit 1b
Just tidied things up a bit.
Taped it all together and made the switch less twitchy, connections from female lead to the switch less than secure. Sparky tape fix. Sorted. It could have less wires, but it's easy to see each step along the way, I think that was the issue I had with the switch on circuit 1. Everything all cluttered up. Perhaps more experience with this will iron out those issues.
18/11/16.

 

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Circuit 1c
Basic expansion of 1b.
Up rated to 4 LEDs. This is because the app I was using I made a 4 light circuit, so I'm just following on from that.
A good view to see how the board works. It is split into numbered rows and lettered columns. Each number has ten pins that are electrically divided in two halves, pins A-E are connected and pins F-J are connected.
Running down each side you have blocks of 50 pins red and 50 pins blue, each of these is split into banks of 25.
The smaller board has 17 rows of ten pins, split in the same way as the rows and columns of the larger board.

 

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Circuit 1c
Alternate view

 

 

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Charger circuit board.
19/11/16
Red light charging, green light charged!
Simple enough. Hopefully it works, test.
Simple USB lithium cell charger. Part of my goody bag, cheap and cheerful.

 

 

 

 

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Lights on/off
Pulling the LEDs out on fly leads to see how it all looks.
This is where I got all excited and snapped "whose bright idea was that?"
Essentially circuit 1c with fly leads. Decided that four LEDs isn't enough, so I'm going to use 5.
So that's the gap filled in!
Now time for the progress shots, though it isn't actual modelling!

 

 

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Working it out, or in!
So my option for a circuit mounted in the wing has been abandoned, it may have taken a few weeks to get together with my brother to sort the job out. I am literally eating, sleeping and breathing this part of the build, I couldn't wait, so I've decided to chance it!
I had a clever idea for the resistors, though it wasn't my idea! I've seen people use these to add details in scratched interiors, so I thought about integrating the circuit within the airframe. Around the area of the rear turrets you have oxygen bottles on the real thing, if I can get these fitted here, perfect, also on the back of the forward bulkhead there is a bottle shaped thing. This works out quite well, the amount of resistors lines up with my advancement on the circuit tests.
Now I've pushed the circuit over to the small breadboard and I'm using the larger board as a wiring plan. This proved useful!

 

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Circuit 2 and switch test!
This is the miniaturised circuit, I thought I'd better check to see if the magnet will operate through the wing! Check, ok. A bit of a clue about what I'm doing for the switching circuit! Still haven't checked to see if the magnet will fit......
A few changes happened on the circuit board;
Circuit now runs,
R1=75R
LEDs
R2=91R (x4)
R3=56R
 
Load at led 2.6V @ 15.37mA
Runtime 6hrs+

 

 

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Circuit 2a
Essentially the same as circuit 2.
Except one extra led and one extra 91R.
(R2=91R x5)
This ran for 6 3/4 hours before becoming somewhat dimmer, it was still on at 8hr but I switched it off, LEDs dim but on.
This is what I am installing.

 

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