Pete in Lincs Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Superb as always. Break a leg tomorrow. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyverns4 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Nice to see those big red flotation devices in use again! The tail rotor thingy-ma-jig looks the bee's knees! Happy hunting! Christian, exiled to africa 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyf117 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) Content withdrawn - I will NOT be threatened by a moderator, simply because I queried the actions of another... Edited June 27, 2020 by andyf117 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huvut76g7gbbui7 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 On 22/02/2017 at 3:33 PM, AntPhillips said: Des Kilfeather's Flickr page I had a wee smile when I looked at this.Is that velcro stuck to the window? After the effort you went to to clean up the window too. I can see this being the ultimate Sea King build of course your 819 cab comes along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 Another completed section of the tail - this time the horizontal stabiliser: 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moaning dolphin Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Nailed that stabilizer! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 5 hours ago, moaning dolphin said: Nailed that stabilizer! no ! Riveted. haven't you been paying attention ? 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 Today I turned my attention to the rescue hoist (aka winch). The kit version is pretty pathetic, frankly - too small, and missing great sections of the apparatus. However, David Parkins at FlightPath should take a huge bow at this point, because the winch in his set is stunning. It's something of a kit in itself; 9 pieces of PE so far (with still a couple more to add): ...plus 8 pieces of white metal (albeit only 7 of them used): After the usual cleaning up, I set to work, and ended up with the support frame - mostly PE, but with a white metal thing on top - and the hoist itself - mostly white petal, but with a PE section inside it: Add them together and you end up with: As you would expect with all that metal, it is quite heavy, so getting the supporting brackets firm is going to be critical. Since the whole thing is black, that can wait - though I will be test fitting the brackets before any paint goes anywhere near anything. Top work, FlightPath peeps; you deserve all the credit today - I merely stuck it together. More later Crisp 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 nice tidy work on the work of the devil. PE, that is - not David Parkins (just to be clear!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 P.S. Very bodged and held together with Blutac, but it works: Being the anal perfectionist / geek that I am, however, I've been checking my reference pictures - notably this one: [HAS6 masquerading as a hybrid HAR3/HU5 at FAA Museum]. Apart from the hydraulic and electric lines, which make it look more complicated, note the fact that there is a third set of support arms in addition to David P's two; the forward bracket has a V shaped set that come aft. It makes sense - that is a much stronger arrangement. It's also not hard to model. It just illustrates the value of treble checking your references even when using a beautifully designed set like the FlightPath Sea King one. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 Incidentally, in case you think i am either over-praising the FlightPath hoist or being over-rude about the Hasegawa version, here they are side by side: All the PE stuff is entirely absent from the Hasegawa representation. I expect what they provide is something approximating a Sikorsky and/or Mitsubishi hoist, but since this purports to be a special UK Sea King boxing, you'd think they might have tried a bit harder. Mind you, the cover shot on the box shows an HU5 with no hoist fitted at all, so maybe... Anyway, after a bit of experimentation, I think the way ahead on the frame is a hybrid - because ironically, though their hoist itself is poor, Hasegawa have got the supporting frame spot on. Here is the plan (again, allow for Blutac and Bodge): Moore soon Crisp 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyf117 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) Content withdrawn - I will NOT be threatened by a moderator, simply because I queried the actions of another... Edited June 27, 2020 by andyf117 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 That feels rather as though it was more work than it needed to be, if you see what I mean. Anyway, after a lot of stuff requiring about 5 hands, in the end I opted for optimum strength by sticking to one medium - so the framework for the hoist is not fitted. I will stop there, for fairly obvious reasons; the FlightPath hoist will not be added for a fair old time yet. But for what it's worth, here is what it will eventually rest on: This way I can build the hydraulic pipes & electrics with the actual hoist not yet there, so not in the way. The connectors are already fitted, and seem to work quite nicely there. [Incidentally, ignore that ridiculous Soggy Moggy tiger striped monstrosity on the box top beneath some of these shots. This cab will be from the Navy's premier carrier-borne ASW squadron, not some bunch who insist on painting vulgar stripes on their aircraft.] More soon Crisp 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) Not much achieved this weekend - I have been singing most of it (the choir I sing in is about to tour to San Francisco, so we were doing a gig today to warm up - and raise money!). None the less, something has been happening. First, I wasn't entirely convinced by the portrayal of the winch hook as I had it; if you compare my version: ...with the real thing: ...there appears to be an extraneous rectangular lump between the spring and the hook itself. So I cut it and removed the offending section. I think it now looks better: I have also added the sonobuoy aerials under the belly: ...done some painting of the undercarriage (with the other one still under construction): ...and fitted the winch light over the cargo door (thanks yet again to FlightPath): But the biggest single step forward - though it took about 2 minutes - was the fitting of the pilots' windows: The only thing stopping me from a primer layer now is the reinstatement of the window from the cargo door. I hope to get that sorted tomorrow. More than Crisp Edited February 26, 2017 by Ex-FAAWAFU 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in Lincs Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Excellent. And good luck with the choir. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard E Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) Awe inspiring build Crisp. Joining the "list of people who have suggested how you should build your model" have you thought about adding a lens to the underside of the winch light ? Edited February 26, 2017 by Richard E 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 I have thought about it, and luckily I don't have to make a decision until very late. The part is white metal, so I will see how good it looks with suitable paint / gloss varnish, and then decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 pity you weren't doing the other coast - I may have made a trip to see hear that. Coming along very nicely - and nice catch with the winch. It does look better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Great work Crisp, all of it but the winch is sublime. Not only a tribute to the work of Dave Parkins but to you as well for getting it all to work so effectively. Martian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewy Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Quite a masterpiece in the making Glynn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
At Sea Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Stunning. Just stunning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phildagreek Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Can't deny it looks the biz! Seems like a lot of fuss over a winch. They're pretty much of a muchness aren't they? I mean, who's going to know the difference between one sort and another? Nobody would notice the difference, on here anyways, they certainly wouldn't comment and mess with your precision brain, on here. Would they? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyf117 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 (edited) Content withdrawn - I will NOT be threatened by a moderator, simply because I queried the actions of another... Edited June 27, 2020 by andyf117 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyf117 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 (edited) Content withdrawn - I will NOT be threatened by a moderator, simply because I queried the actions of another... Edited June 27, 2020 by andyf117 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyverns4 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Very nicely done! You could always rivet the winch to the support plate... Christian, in awe in africa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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