heloman1 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Hi Crisp, those weapons pylons do look rather tasty. You ASW guys, knew how to ugly up a cab, let alone the RAFBG you then went and dirtied then up with an oil wash, how disgusting. At least us Junglies used to wash and oil (hydraulic fluid hand appied via nice rag from the stores rag bag...) our cabs every Friday... Colin 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted August 21, 2017 Author Share Posted August 21, 2017 Well you see, that's what happens when you do something useful with an aircraft; you need something to hang weapons off. When you're little more than a glorified van driver, your cab can stay all smooth. Similarly with the oil washing; it's what you do to protect aircraft. You know, like when they go actually go to sea, instead of loafing around in Somerset...? [Thanks!] 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloman1 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Ex-FAAWAFU said: Well you see, that's what happens when you do something useful with an aircraft; you need something to hang weapons off. When you're little more than a glorified van driver, your cab can stay all smooth. Similarly with the oil washing; it's what you do to protect aircraft. You know, like when they go actually go to sea, instead of loafing around in Somerset...? [Thanks!] Hi Crisp, gather what you are saying but when I was Junglie, we were still down at Culdrose (next to 707 jus inside the airfield gate) and never cruised the downs of Somerset. However we did endeavour to keep our cabs in the best naval tradition, of ship shape and well tended. Maybe we did lollygag around a tad but then waitng for an 'ashore event' always was a problem for us... Still without the booties, we wouldn't have a had ajob at all!!! Colin 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 3 hours ago, Ex-FAAWAFU said: is some teeny-tiny soldering action. and a lovely action it was too. Watching all this constructive action going on, I'm almost missing building a fly-ey thing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 Only teasing you, Colin; I went to war with the Bootnecks & Junglies (846 in Fearless in 82), so have the utmost respect for them, desoite my subsequent Pinger career. I think the Royal Marines are the very best part of all our armed forces. I have to say I didn't know that CU had ever hosted our Junglie brethren. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 Little more progress - this is the first weapon carrier finished (apart from the attachment brackets, of course). 7 pieces of PE here, plus a lump of white metal. Since I have a reputation as a nutter to maintain, I have drilled a hole in each one - this shows a section of 0.4mm lead wire fed through said hole to show where a red wire will run in due course: And here from end on (the rear, to be precise): More soon Crisp 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloman1 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 On 8/22/2017 at 9:23 AM, Ex-FAAWAFU said: Only teasing you, Colin; I went to war with the Bootnecks & Junglies (846 in Fearless in 82), so have the utmost respect for them, desoite my subsequent Pinger career. I think the Royal Marines are the very best part of all our armed forces. I have to say I didn't know that CU had ever hosted our Junglie brethren. Hi Crisp, yes Culdrose was always the ancestoral home of the junglies back to the Whirlwind days. It is only in recent years Yeovilton has become their home. And yes to the RM mention. Colin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I am liking the fine detail that is going into this. Will she be at Telford? Martian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 I doubt it - not sure I'm going to get the rotor head done in time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xffw45343tg Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 You could always enter "A Sea King HAS5 whose rotor head has been sent away for maintenance" in the appropriate competition category.... That way you can enter it again next year too. Kirk 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in Lincs Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 ' A Sea King that needs it's head examined' perhaps? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted August 24, 2017 Author Share Posted August 24, 2017 A Sea King modeller that needs his head examining? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyf117 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 (edited) Content withdrawn - I will NOT be threatened by a moderator, simply because I queried the actions of another... Edited June 27, 2020 by andyf117 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 6 hours ago, Ex-FAAWAFU said: A Sea King modeller that needs his head examining? Let the record state that you said that Crisp, not us. Martian who had both his heads examined and was declared to be beyond all help. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 2 hours ago, andyf117 said: I hope not, considering how many I've built/am building/have planned to build...... .....then, on the other hand, maybe I do...... It depends on whether they are all going to be crispinated or not. Martian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huvut76g7gbbui7 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Martian Hale said: crispinated The start of a whole new lexicon. Somanyinated on here though it would be unfair to give examples. Perhaps we could have an icon to add when somebody is worthy of being inated Back to the model though..weapons gubbins looking really good and I'm enjoying the banter too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wafu Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 On 6 August 2017 at 0:11 PM, Ex-FAAWAFU said: The Wheel at Cross Lanes! Played many a gig there in my younger days. Lots of lovely details in that picture - I love the L plate, the matelot safely perched on the engine bay door (Health & what?..), and the fact that they've rigged Forth Road Bridge AND tip socks just in case! Don't think I've ever seen the side number repeated on the rear of the sponson, either. There's something very odd about that tail rotor; was that the problem that led to recovery by road? Nice picture indeed, I think the tail rotor blades have been removed to allow passage I think the tail rotor blades have been removed to allow road recovery, telephone wire tend to twang with a pussers helo attached. The guy on the trans deck probably has the dubious task of fending the wires off the Rotorhead. As for the Forth Road gear and tip sock with speader board, that's got to be some snot nosed DAEO insisting that belt, braces and ties are all applied. Really liking the updates to your build, have you thought about putting the engine door retaining strap on? This was a canvas strap about six inches long and was attached to the starboard door, the door strap had a metal hook and hooked on the port engine door, a pain in the butt however it was the final fail safe if the engine door latch's failed, the fact the latch handle was under a duzs panel didn't alway help. The SACRU, whilst I was on 820, was only fitted to embark/disembark from the carriers, Vertrep a go go, and yes it was a total pain to install, with the lanyard often being threaded through the sonar well and strapped onto the sonar operators table support. Quick, easy and not by the book, tick. Still, it lived by the 820 engineers moto "you play ball with us or we'll shove the bat up your ----. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) A week has gone by, and this update feels like ridiculously small progress in that time - but what you are seeing actually represents version 3 or 4 of something small but important; the scrapped prototypes did not make it to being photographed. I'm continuing to work on the weapon carriers - specifically the rear ones (Stations 3 & 4). I have already said, I think, that the Flightpath carriers are superb, but were clearly designed to be fitted on the forward stations, underneath each stub wing; you can tell by the shape of the brackets cast into the white metal section. That won't work for the rear stations, because of the shape of the fuselage / boat hull at that point. Here is a real one, seen from the rear… …from the side & slightly below (sorry for dodgy photo; low light in FAA Museum): …and from ahead… Note that: 1. the brackets both slope downwards from the carrier towards the boat hull 2. the rear bracket extends considerably behind the carrier, and the forward bracket ahead of it (to a lesser extent) - but neither bracket has much inside the carrier itself (when I come to do the forward carriers, you'll see that they are totally different) 3. the rear bracket is heavily scalloped on both the rear and under sides 4. the front bracket is essentially plates in a shape 5. for obvious reasons (like the shape of the fuselage) the rear bracket is a lot longer than the forward one Here is where I have got to in 1/48 (you are looking from directly above the carrier and slightly ahead - imagine yourself sitting on the rescue hoist housing!) Front bracket, fitted to the carrier (still unfinished, but getting there) is an assembly of three small sections of plastic card welded together with MEK and then carved & sanded to shape. It still needs a little more taking off the top edge to fair it better into the shape of the hull. [Alas, I don't have enough hands to show this in place against the Sea King and photo it at the same time, so you'll have to trust me on this one!] On the cutting mat behind is the rear bracket, which was shaped from a length of square section thick plastic rod, using my faithful micro-chisels. You are seeing it as if from c45 degrees and below; the upper scallop you see is the rear face, and the lower as we look is the underside [are you still following me?]. You can also just see a brass pin that I have CA'd into a hole drilled in the white metal; this matches up with a hole in the rear bracket. This rear bracket is (deliberately) too long at present; the only way I can think of to get its accurate is to fettle the front end until the whole carrier lines up correctly, and then measure the rear bracket accurately - there are just too many odd angles to work it out from scratch (side of boat hull slopes top to bottom, and also front to back, and the bracket is also not straight in either axis - my trigonometry gave up some time ago). So that's it! Two tiny pieces of white plastic. But it's all progress. More soon Crisp Edited September 1, 2017 by Ex-FAAWAFU 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I can sympathise about the slow progress Crisp, my SH-34 too seems to be at a similar stage, where every small detail takes an age to make. Plus such details are always the ones that one needs multiple copies of! Sympathetic of Mars 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 7 minutes ago, Martian Hale said: I can sympathise about the slow progress Crisp, my SH-34 too seems to be at a similar stage, where every small detail takes an age to make. Plus such details are always the ones that one needs multiple copies of! Sympathetic of Mars and he didn't even offer to help you hold it to take pics! The one person creature with hands to spare! Still, it does look like a rather time consuming, task. I don't envy you, but at least it's not in 1:72! Ian 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 small progress maybe - but details take time, then more time, then a break and then more time. But all worth it in the end 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritag Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 That's a joyous little sub assembly. Slow progress? Seems very speedy to me..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyf117 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) Content withdrawn - I will NOT be threatened by a moderator, simply because I queried the actions of another... Edited June 27, 2020 by andyf117 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 What can a chap say huh? That is a superb piece of micro-chiselling, I'm becoming a massive micro-chisel fan, wow don't they do the trick huh These carriers look marvellous, brilliant work going on there Crisp I love it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJP Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Almost a week and no update - no pressure - but! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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