snapper_city Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) Hi guys West Middlesex Model Club was contacted recently asking if someone could build an Airfix Vulcan for a guy who used to be a flight engineer on these before the Black Buck missions. He had been bought the kit many years ago and he has never got round to it. For some crazy reason I put my hand up and volunteered. I must be a glutton for punishment and it has been maybe 20 years since I last had a go at one of these. I will probably end up rescribing the beast as the horrible raised details will not survive the clean up required. I know this kit has many issues quality and accuracy wise which I am not fussed about. Really looking forward to a quick build and getting to the paint stage which I am looking forward to. Hopefully I can do a good job on this. Looking to mount on a wooden base at the end. I will need to do some research for a hard stand concrete base replica thing to mount to the wooden base. It could be interesting finding one big enough. Childhoodmemories. IMAG1442 by Mark Inman, on Flickr Here is where things are so far. IMAG1443 by Mark Inman, on Flickr Not much left in the box. IMAG1444 by Mark Inman, on Flickr Filling and sanding in easily accessible areas. IMAG1445 by Mark Inman, on Flickr Edited November 13, 2017 by snapper_city 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planebuilder62 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Dear Mark A chap in Cambridge on our favourite site sells brass Vulcan exhausts for the Black Buck Vulcans.I bought a set and they look miles better than the Airfix attempts. Regards Toby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper_city Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 Dear Mark A chap in Cambridge on our favourite site sells brass Vulcan exhausts for the Black Buck Vulcans.I bought a set and they look miles better than the Airfix attempts. Regards Toby Hi Toby Do you know how much they are? Cheers Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planebuilder62 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Dear Mark 12 GBP +postage. Regards Toby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcanicity Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Dear Mark A chap in Cambridge on our favourite site sells brass Vulcan exhausts for the Black Buck Vulcans.I bought a set and they look miles better than the Airfix attempts. Regards Toby Heck that would have saved me a lot of pain! Great start Mark, and good luck. If you're anything like me you may find that the Airfix Vulcan turns you to drink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathasatail Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) Great start Mark, and good luck. If you're anything like me you may find that the Airfix Vulcan turns you to drink. Might I just second that! I'll be watching this with great interest Many thanks, Sam Edited July 25, 2016 by cathasatail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza l Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) Dear Mark A chap in Cambridge on our favourite site sells brass Vulcan exhausts for the Black Buck Vulcans.I bought a set and they look miles better than the Airfix attempts. Regards Toby Thanks for the plug Toby, glad you were pleased with them. I've only got 1 set left if any one is interested. Will be watching this build closely, always nice to see an Airfix Vulcan going together. Cheers, gazza l Edited July 25, 2016 by gazza l 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Thanks for the plug Toby, glad you were pleased with them. I've only got 1 set left if any one is interested. Will be watching this build closely, always nice to see an Airfix Vulcan going together. Cheers, gazza l I could very well be - are they for the 301 engines? Regards Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Good luck with this Mark - mines still in the loft as I've started rescribing but lost the will. Really must pick it back up again as I spent a small fortune on all the wolfpack sets for it plus a myriad of other extras!! Master have just released a brass refueling probe for the Vulcan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper_city Posted July 26, 2016 Author Share Posted July 26, 2016 Good luck with this Mark - mines still in the loft as I've started rescribing but lost the will. Really must pick it back up again as I spent a small fortune on all the wolfpack sets for it plus a myriad of other extras!! Master have just released a brass refueling probe for the Vulcan. Cheers mate. Yes I saw the brass refueling probe. I might look at that because the kit part is toilet. I scraped and sanded the wings today along with the intake tubes. Rolled up sheets of various wet and dry grades did the trick. I'll hit them with some primer next week to see how things are looking but they look almost there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper_city Posted August 1, 2016 Author Share Posted August 1, 2016 Hi guysHere is a small update on the Vulcan and where things currently stand.The intake trunks have been sanded down using various grades of rolled up wet and dry sheets. They are near to ready I think. I will hit them with some primer tomorrow to see if anymore work is required.IMAG1471 by Mark Inman, on FlickrIMAG1472 by Mark Inman, on FlickrThe underside of one of the wing has been sanded back and rescribed. I have omitted all the inspection panels etc because I don't have things like oval templates and being the underside this will almost never be looked at. It is my first time using the Alec Holly scribers in full front line action and all I have to say is they are ridiculously easy to get on with. So much better than the Trumpeter butchers knife I used previously. I am using 3M 471 pinstripe tape as a guide to scribe against and It is working well. Easy to conform to any angle or curve and gives 5-10 sticks before the adhesive is totalled. The 0.15mm Holly is the weapon of choice for this build. Once the lines are scribed I rub them down with some 1200 wet and dry to clean up the cut out material and gently use the Holly again freehand to clean out the sanded material. Finally I give them a pass over with Tamiya Extra Thin to melt any remaining material. I have given them a coat of clay dark dirt wash to highlight them for the pictures. This one underside took about 90 minutes to sand back, rescribe and clean up so hoping to speed things up as I progress the rest.IMAG1473 by Mark Inman, on FlickrIMAG1475 by Mark Inman, on FlickrThanks for looking. More progress tomorrow. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vader Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Those intakes look great I can see a lot of work has gone into them, who needs resin. The rescribing on the wing looks tidy too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper_city Posted August 1, 2016 Author Share Posted August 1, 2016 Those intakes look great I can see a lot of work has gone into them, who needs resin. The rescribing on the wing looks tidy too. The intakes didn't take long at all. Maybe 45 minutes to do both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 This is a great kit when built well, can see this will be! Personally I think the only aftermarket the kit cries out for is the exhaust cans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper_city Posted August 1, 2016 Author Share Posted August 1, 2016 (edited) This is a great kit when built well, can see this will be! Personally I think the only aftermarket the kit cries out for is the exhaust cans. Definitely. I am tempted but as this build isn't for me I might not. The only other thing I would change would be the newly released Master metal refueling probe. Does anyone know if XM607 used the Olympus 201 tailpipes or Olympus 202 tailpipes during the Black Buck raids?? Edited August 1, 2016 by snapper_city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper_city Posted August 1, 2016 Author Share Posted August 1, 2016 (edited) In case anyone is interested here is how the intakes were sanded. Rolled up wet and dry. 320, 600 and 1200 grade. It took about 45 mins - 1 hour to sand both. who needs resin replacements. The seams were filled with styrene and Tamiya Extra Thin soup mix. This was left to cure over a few days while I was on my work shift. IMAG1476 by Mark Inman, on Flickr Edited August 1, 2016 by snapper_city 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Does anyone know if XM607 used the Olympus 201 tailpipes or Olympus 202 tailpipes during the Black Buck raids?? It had 301 engines as did all the black buck vulcans as they had a longer range than the 201 / 202 engines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper_city Posted August 1, 2016 Author Share Posted August 1, 2016 Does anyone know if XM607 used the Olympus 201 tailpipes or Olympus 202 tailpipes during the Black Buck raids?? It had 301 engines as did all the black buck vulcans as they had a longer range than the 201 / 202 engines Hmmm, Freightdog doesn't cater for them.. I wonder what external differences there were?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Unsure but as I recall the kit engines are 301s Vaguely recollect the 301s have a bigger hole but happy to be proven wrong Scribings looking good - much better than my efforts!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 There was a very recent thread on the cold war section about the Airfix Vulcan, one of the posts had a link where someone made their own jet cans - looked very effective, unsure of engine variant though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Found it http://nabe3saviation.web.fc2.com/modelVul.htmlnote how he makes the jet pipes. XM574 was a 301 powered Vulcan so should be good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper_city Posted August 1, 2016 Author Share Posted August 1, 2016 Found it also. Was reading through the thread. Good stuff in there. http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235001956-is-the-airfix-avro-vulcan-really-that-bad/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathasatail Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Found it http://nabe3saviation.web.fc2.com/modelVul.htmlnote how he makes the jet pipes. XM574 was a 301 powered Vulcan so should be good. Damn, that build is quite simply inspirational O_O Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Thanks for the link - that is a stunningly clean and tidy build!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilfish Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 XM607 had 301 Series engines, which were fitted to all Skybolt capable aircraft. This had nothing to do with range, but thrust. More power was needed to lift the heavier weight. With regards to the Black Buck missions, this had 2 bonuses. 1) With the aircraft at it's all up weight, 21 x 1000lb iron bombs and full fuel load (probably the heaviest the aircraft had ever been), the trust was needed to get of the airstrip at Ascension. 2) Only 301 engined Vulcans had pylon fixing points for Skybolt, which were utilized for the missions. With regards to the exhaust shapes, the 301 is straighter and not kinked outwards like previous engines were 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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