Xmald Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Great thread! I`ve just bought Snowberry myself. I`m wondering if the Eduard`s PE sets are worth buying or not? What`s your suggestion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted October 29, 2016 Author Share Posted October 29, 2016 Hi Xmald. 3 hours ago, Xmald said: Great thread! I`ve just bought Snowberry myself. I`m wondering if the Eduard`s PE sets are worth buying or not? What`s your suggestion? Good point. They are expensive and if I'm honest I think Eduard are milking it a bit. The weapons set contains the depth charge racks that are really very nice but if I'm honest everything else you can do without. The "Structure" set Part 2 is far more important as it contains the deck, stack and mast ladders. The third part containing the railings is also likely to be very useful as the kit offerings are quite poor. Eduard have set this release for November However, I am looking forward to the promised offering from Mike McCabe of Starling Models with his joint co-operative set with L'Arsenal. I've got a sneaking feeling that this will pip Eduard's sets. Rob 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) I keep finding differences from the Snowberry version to Crocus particularly on the deck fittings, no real surprise when these boats were built in so many different yards. Now the deck is painted filling holes with styrene rod and filing is a non starter so I've opted to cover them. I don't have a punch set, it's possible to use mini-drills to "punch" out small holes in thin styrene sheet - but it wont work with larger than 1mm. I found these recently - inexpensive with precut circles which provides a pragmatic solution In a similar pragmatic way I'm using the Archer rivet set to replicate the gear teeth on the anchor windlass and the main vents; they sit nicely and hopefully will look effective I've been working on some of the Eduard etch today. Both the short steps fell apart and needed building from separate pieces - not ideal I worked on weathering the hull over the W/E. The aim is to give a weathered and used look without it being as "Weather beaten" as some of the pics depicting the N Atlantic convoy vessels. Rust kept to a minimum. The washes start to give depth and perspective to the hull And the very good news from today is that Eduard have featured the railings set on their website.... Part 3 Railings Instruction sheet Thanks for looking Rob Edited October 31, 2016 by robgizlu Text edit 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dads203 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 That's looking sweet Rob, I see you are using my fav rust weathering medium. I reckon one of the best to depict new rust streaks. Regards Dan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Macnaughton Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Well spotted Rob re the railing set - I only checked yesterday without success. For my build I have stuck with the kit railings apart from the sections with the part I451 staunchions where I have used 0.5mm piano wire instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremlin56 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Looking very sexy there Rob, the washes really bring out the details. You might be having me buying this model yet.......................................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob 1 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 yep, looking very good, nice finishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Macnaughton Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Eduard have now announced a big-ed version of their PE which should save some money https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/EBIG5343 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 On 11/16/2016 at 3:58 PM, Francis Macnaughton said: Eduard have now announced a big-ed version of their PE which should save some money https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/EBIG5343 Thanks for that Francis - I am needing a lot of persuading that is good Value for money No updates for a while and I was thwarted yesterday by Photobucket NOT allowing me to upload. Does everyone else have similar problems - I use the free version - is this why I get all the bother? What photo sites do you all use - any alternative recommendations? I couldn't live with the resin 3 D railings thickness So foolishly or otherwise chopped it off and spent a happy hour first trying plastic rod (NoooooH) then metal with copper wire Which turned out OK There are an awful lot of "little pieces of deck furniture made all the more tirsesome by some fairly hideous sprue gates, all of which sucks up time The mast on Crocus has a crosstree much narrower than that supplied so it was chopped - Eduard supply little doo-dahs that you can use to thread lines through. And painted up.... . Meanwhile The Big H delivered the Railings set (Not really a lot for £28) The railings are OK and whilst these corresponded to the holes the set for the Stack platform did not which is altogether galling. I've continued the weathering process - using conventional AFV methods - Mig Filters to the decks and oil dot rendering to the hull below the water liine. I was tempted to use Tristan Reidford's excellent acryllic washes method using Lifecolor but instead stuck to tried and trusted methods The above waterline hull received some more - the original Crocus pics show very prominent "rubber" marks amidships presumably due to fenders rubbing in dock The deck received the same oil dot treatment and this is a case of Mig Abteiling Oil: Industrial dirt being your special friend And this is what the etched 2D railings begin to look like. I'm feeling that on the next build - I'll save an awful lot of money and try making my own from scratch .....and next a little Shout out for these that hail from WW1 Aircraft modellers, that are just fab for anchoring rigging lines - perhaps you already use them They are tiny and Fab - highly recommended...... Bob's Buckles And true to form I cant download any further images, so let's pause here Rob 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 Let's try posting some more pics The Eduard pulleys from the: Part 2 Structure set are very nicely done Until one flicked away and I spent over an hour clearing and searching my floor. I work on a pine wood floor so can't invoke the carpet monster . it was Not to be found so using some small circels from the "Circle" sets that I highlighted previously and some stretched sprue it took about 5mins to get to this And just one more random pic - this time of the 3D Resin Quad that will come for the HMS Clematis build I'm conscious this build is into it's 5th month - it's time to crack on! Thanks for looking Rob 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Metal railings around the Lantern are a big improvement Love the way the weathering is going, really adds to the build. Kev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dads203 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Awesome work once more 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Macnaughton Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Rob, You might want to sort out where your signal flag hoist halyards running down from the yardarm pulleys are going to be secured and make provision for that around now before too many delicate items are in place. Likewise for the stays/shrouds for the mast - the instructions leave everything to the end which is unrealistic and are very vague. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted November 26, 2016 Author Share Posted November 26, 2016 On 11/21/2016 at 7:20 PM, Francis Macnaughton said: Rob, You might want to sort out where your signal flag hoist halyards running down from the yardarm pulleys are going to be secured and make provision for that around now before too many delicate items are in place. Likewise for the stays/shrouds for the mast - the instructions leave everything to the end which is unrealistic and are very vague. Thanks Francis - I've got this covered. I've chosen to bring the Signal Flag halyards to the aft bridge railings. It's not entirely clear from original pics where they went and I suspect it varied I've drilled and inserted some metal 0.4mm rod. As to the mast stays - I've inserted Bob's Buckles "eyes" on the stack platform and just aft of the 20mm mounts on the bridge The rigging is done with elastic "Ushi" 400G "Rigging Bobbin Fine". I have the 3 sets from Mig Ammo that are almost too fine. It is a real disapointment that the Eduard railings do not "fit" the Revell deck holes - that or my build joining the mid decks has been imprecise The only real solution is to fill the Revel holes - lop the bottoms off the railings and glue them flat to decking That said- in fairness the rear superstructure railings DO fit. There's an upward curve of the deck that is followed well and will make scratching railings from metal even more complex. The aft ladders are gently folded and the depth charge racks are finished off for priming Thanks for looking in and the encouragement Rob 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dads203 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Again, I can only say how great this build is turning out to be 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 All that love back at you All I need now to complete my weekend will be for Lewis to win the world Championship.............. Kev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob 1 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 This is looking very good, the detail is showing through well and nicely finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden80 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Great work, very impressive. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Macnaughton Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Rob Re the flag halyards - looking back over this thread I can see you have found some photos that definitely show the halyards for your version going to the back of the bridge at a single point on either side. For the Snowberry as I have done the kit, the best photos I can find show the halyards as being parallel and more vertical so I have put the halyards to the rails on part E 456 as at stage 48. I also reduced the length of the yardarm to 26mm using brass rod as the kit one is far too long to achieve this and definitely looks wrong. Had you looked at whether you will need to adjust your yard arm too? regards Francis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murdo Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 That is looking absolutely superb! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremlin56 Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 The weathering is very realistic. Very interesting build ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted December 15, 2016 Author Share Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) Thanks Fellas. On 11/28/2016 at 8:59 PM, Francis Macnaughton said: Rob Re the flag halyards - looking back over this thread I can see you have found some photos that definitely show the halyards for your version going to the back of the bridge at a single point on either side. For the Snowberry as I have done the kit, the best photos I can find show the halyards as being parallel and more vertical so I have put the halyards to the rails on part E 456 as at stage 48. I also reduced the length of the yardarm to 26mm using brass rod as the kit one is far too long to achieve this and definitely looks wrong. Had you looked at whether you will need to adjust your yard arm too? regards Francis Hi Francis - check above - yard arm already lopped. I think Revell got this wrong even for Snowberry. The Eduard set allows you to pimp the davits and the D/C throwers.... The original pics of Crocus show a box like structure on the at "Carley float" platform. It could be a Merchant raft but probably isn't. I've read that some boats carried a meat locker that extended below to increase the very limited food storage space. I've just scratched up a simple box shape to replicate. Shout if anyone has any brighter ideas. There was also an extra aft upper deck locker that needed fabricating... The Revell depth charges have some minor sink marks and the Eduard etched end caps that add to detail are TOO big The original pics also show a fixing band around the top pf the thrower for whcih I used copper wire. There are 18 of them so it's a little tedious. And the mast was stepped! The etched ladder really does improve on the kit version... The lantern and funnel platform are now nearing finality I've attached the gun platform adders and added some rails from 0-3mm nickel wire The rear coach deck is near fitting out and rails paited I now have to rig, add final weapons, complete f'wd railings and I'm nearly there and not before flippin' time As ever - thanks for looking Rob Edited December 15, 2016 by robgizlu 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 4 hours ago, robgizlu said: The Eduard set allows you to pimp the davits and the D/C throwers With your talents and a little bit of help from Messrs Revell & Eduard, there's some dam fine pimping going on here Kev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted December 18, 2016 Author Share Posted December 18, 2016 Thanks Kev. The Eduard metal bits come into their own onthe Vickers gun shields and 2 punder And Thnaks again To L'Arsenal and Mélaine for sending me the replacement fret for the 20mm gun shields - here's the old and the new And here's the finished article - they are a delight and so detailed - the barrell actually slots into gun assembly - superb moulding And here's the 2 pounder finished ....and the rest of today was spent fitting out the second boat (I should have built them together) Yay! - the end is in sight Rob 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aginvicta Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 You are making this into something really special Rob, I like all the detail on the small boats, Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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