AntPhillips Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Would prototypes of aircraft that went into mass production be accepted, purely because I've got a hankering to do the one below, I built the Hasegawa 1/72 kit when it first hit the shops, IIRC I bought it in a little model shop in Cleethorpes during a family holiday, and it was one of the first kits that I really went to town with painting etc: Technically its a pre-production machine not a prototype, but if its acceptable i'm in. Cheers Ant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radleigh Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Please count me in.. Few ideas I'd like to build. Bartini Beriev VVA-14 IL-40 'Brawny' IL-102 Tu-91 'Boot' Yak-140 Yak-1000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pin Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Are you stealing the subject? http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235000942-how-about-x-planescarsboatsarmours-gb/ Happy to join efforts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTiger66 Posted July 8, 2016 Author Share Posted July 8, 2016 Would prototypes of aircraft that went into mass production be accepted, purely because I've got a hankering to do the one below, I built the Hasegawa 1/72 kit when it first hit the shops, IIRC I bought it in a little model shop in Cleethorpes during a family holiday, and it was one of the first kits that I really went to town with painting etc: Technically its a pre-production machine not a prototype, but if its acceptable i'm in. Cheers Ant Hi ant. That's lovely subject. It represents a pre-production example and I feel those are ones we have to include. The Me 264 Amerika bomber has similar pre-production status. The early Bf 109's were V models, yet the later ( contentious this) 'A' or 'B1' series were all, in a way, up to at least the 6th airframe, 'pre-production' models. It's just an example. Yup, lovely, on board and many thanks - it would be a handsome build. Please count me in.. Few ideas I'd like to build. Bartini Beriev VVA-14 IL-40 'Brawny' IL-102 Tu-91 'Boot' Yak-140 Yak-1000 They are lovely propositions. I was recently looking at a Bartini - beautiful aircraft. Yak qualify so often, so many firsts. It almost seems like a soviet version of the German 'Messerschmitt' situation - a favoured constructor in spite of often, designs (HE-280) that would suggest another manufacturer. The Yak 50 is very nice and is a tenuous swept wing jet powered first. If I remember correctly the Yak 30 is the first for this accolade. You have me looking up the rest! The Tu91 is fascinating. Great to have you on board - these are all really imaginative and alternative subjects Best regards Tony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTiger66 Posted July 8, 2016 Author Share Posted July 8, 2016 Are you stealing the subject? http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235000942-how-about-x-planescarsboatsarmours-gb/ Happy to join efforts Crikey Pin! We really do have so much in common on so many things. I hadn't seen your thread at all - I apologise. We obviously have many of the same enthusiasms and passions. Can we combine these two threads? Your knowledge of sadly relatively unknown (to the west) Eastern European firsts is second to none. We need that breadth of knowledge. I'm 100% with joining efforts All best regards Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Some other ideas; Vickers Vimy [Frog & others] first to fly the Atlantic, can be built oob Ryan monoplane 'Spirit of St. Louis' - first solo flight of the Atlantic Lockheed Vega 5b - first woman to fly the Atlantic solo Cutty Sark - fastest tea clipper afloat HMS Victory - oldest Royal Naval warship still in commission RMS Titanic - world's largest ship when launched and in service RMS Queen Mary - fastest ship across the Atlantic 1936 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Great Idea.....The wider the scope the better the GB! Here's some more candidates for the expanded theme: Black Prince TOG II Tortoise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffB Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Hope I can count you in Cliff, either of those would be superb Best regards Tony I'm most definitely in Cliff 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Please, please do the Ilya Muromets! Definitely think this thread should merge with Pin's X-Craft idea.....Massive potential in combination. How would the hosts stand on things like this: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntPhillips Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Hi ant. That's lovely subject. It represents a pre-production example and I feel those are ones we have to include....... Best regards Tony Great stuff, I'm now off to eBay to find me a kit. Hasegawa did it in 1/72 and 1/32 I had both in the stash at one time but both departed in the "great stash reduction" ho hum time to look for another. Anybody out there have one or other going cheap? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 ... How would the hosts stand on things like this: My opinion, note; my opinion only. These are excluded as they were paper proposals only. IIRC only one of da Vinci's cannon ideas was built and it proved to be useless in battle conditions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Good point well made! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTiger66 Posted July 10, 2016 Author Share Posted July 10, 2016 Yup. I think paper prototypes would be a whole GB in itself. The number of Luft '46 subjects alone is huge! It's another area where people could really get creative and build some pretty far out subjects. Talking of far out subjects; whilst researching the 'Buran' space programme, I happened upon quite a record breaker in many ways; longest aircraft ever made, heaviest aircraft ever made, heaviest cargo load ever carried and so on; The Antonov 'Cossack'. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov_An-225_Mriya I'm not sure if Amodel do one if these; they do the Hughes Hercules (Spruce Goose) and also the Buran spacecraft. Expensive, vast models but absolutely awesome! Thank you for the suggestions Black Night; especially the ships. I don't know very much about maritime records and firsts, so to see these is refreshing and inspiring. Thanks for the AFV prototypes Sarge; I like the Tortoise - it looks just like its name Keep the ideas coming folks, Best regards Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pin Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 When an idea comes independently to more than one person it is a good idea in a good time. Previously I opened a thread with almost identical idea, naturally Tony and me decided to join efforts http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235000942-how-about-x-planescarsboatsarmours-gb/ I asked Tony to transfer all the people who signed up in that thread to the list in this GB which I will co-host: 1. Pin 2. Caerbannog 3. SleeperService 4. Giorgio N 5. Arniec 6. heloman1 7. whitestar12chris 8. Misterfriend 9. HansReggelsen Of course, people can opt out from the list if not agree with the merger. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pin Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 One thing to mention, Tony, I totally agree with what have been said above and opposing "paper projects". It may have exploded on the first attempt like VLS-1, failed miserably like Caproni-60 or Lebedenko Tank, never completed like Slesarev Svyatogor but it must be real. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 So I may have found an alternative home for this one: But I wonder if I can get this one: Apparently I can: But it's from KORA! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KORA-Models-1-72-LEBEDENKO-TSAR-TANK-Giant-Russian-WWI-Tank-/131852604345?hash=item1eb30713b9 A snip at twice the price! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pin Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Scratchbuild it! http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic_p_1039351.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Those Russians are crazy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avereda Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Assuming I can find something Amy Johnson flew to a "first" I'll join in 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Black Knight Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Assuming I can find something Amy Johnson flew to a "first" I'll join in Some of her firsts were in a DH 60 Gipsy Moth; vis first woman to fly solo to Australia. The DH 60 was available as kit from Frog and others who got the moulds. I think Aeroclub made one, as well as other makers. Amy and her hubby were fastest to India in the '34 race, flying DH88 Comet 'Black Magic' ~ Airfix and others, in 1/72 and 1/48 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 'Black Magic'.....Please! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTiger66 Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 One thing to mention, Tony, I totally agree with what have been said above and opposing "paper projects". It may have exploded on the first attempt like VLS-1, failed miserably like Caproni-60 or Lebedenko Tank, never completed like Slesarev Svyatogor but it must be real.Hi Pin,I agree. I originally had written that the e.g.the and Me P1101: and Hs 132 ; wouldn't qualify, but I think I was wrong. They made it from the drawing board to construction, but we're just beaten by the end of the war (and associated circumstances) to being fully completed and flown. Huma made both of these in 1/72 and RS Models do the Hs 132. I wonder if you agree that they should be in? I think it makes it more fun A quick addition regarding Amy Johnson: Amodel recently released a series of DH 60 models in 1/72 ( and 1/48 I think?). I know people sometimes worry about Amodel, but I have started one of the DH60M 'Metal Moth's 1/72 and it is a nice kit. Nicely moulded, quite solid plastic (not soft or waxy) and the fit is pretty good too. SBS do a very nice DH88 Comet as Black Magic. It's not cheap, but it's lovely: Sarge, you have to build that Kora thing-it's incredible! Best regards Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 That first image looks distinctly fake to me. I've had a poke about online and I've found the KORA "Tsar" for a much better price (About £150 delivered).....I am almost tempted now you utter, utter b*****d! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTiger66 Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 The Me 1101 Sarge? The Americans made off with it and more or less copied it. Here are a few more pics. There's a man lurking around the back of this one: I'd quite like to build one myself. Too many things to choose from. That flying tank did fly didn't it! Brave man that piloted that! TT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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