Diggers11 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 20 hours ago, Mikemx said: Hannants are the UK importer for AMK and haven't had any in for weeks.... thanks Mike I guess Hannants can only get them back in stock if AMK produce another batch. When will that be? We know they have to fit kit production between the companies over work. Looks like they are currently doing the new 1/48 version. I presume Hannants have ordered another lot of these kits as the first ones sold out quickly. Maybe they are on a ship heading to the UK already, Maybe not. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 On 9-12-2017 at 5:51 PM, Diggers11 said: I guess Hannants can only get them back in stock if AMK produce another batch. When will that be? We know they have to fit kit production between the companies over work. My LHS got a new batch in after I snatched up the first one. Unfortunately for my fellow local modelers, I snatched up the second batch as well (yes, I like both the original and the AMK kit). The Italeri Kfir C.1 / F-21A reissue was in as well, but since that one would set me back 5,- more than the AMK it remained on the shelve..! Cheers, Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diggers11 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, Hook said: My LHS got a new batch in after I snatched up the first one. Unfortunately for my fellow local modelers, I snatched up the second batch as well (yes, I like both the original and the AMK kit). The Italeri Kfir C.1 / F-21A reissue was in as well, but since that one would set me back 5,- more than the AMK it remained on the shelve..! Cheers, Andre Where is your LHS?, mine I don't think have ever stocked AMK. Edited January 8, 2018 by Diggers11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 22 hours ago, Diggers11 said: Where is your LHS?, mine I don't think have ever stocked AMK. Groningen, the Netherlands. Cheers, Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diggers11 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 9 hours ago, Hook said: Groningen, the Netherlands. Cheers, Andre That's a bit further away than my local LHS in Northampton, England. It's a great model shop but sadly no AMK stocked. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fewr9fkr9595 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Two new unstarted for sale on ebay uk at the moment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme H Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 On 8/01/2018 at 00:25, Hook said: The Italeri Kfir C.1 / F-21A reissue was in as well, but since that one would set me back 5,- more than the AMK it remained on the shelve..! Cheers, Andre I didn't know that the old Italeri kit had been re released already, but if you want a Kfir then that kit is not it, there was a reason it has not been redone in the 20 odd years since first put out Just some of what I think is wrong with it, and it is just my opinion, so ignore if you think otherwise. The nose is far too fat, looks more like a radar nose, get one from the HPM kit and put beside it and you will see what I mean. The tailpipe is an absolute joke, it's best to hold it in your left hand over a garbage receptacle , and accidently cough so your hand muscles will relax, The outer elevon fairing which incorporates the pylon is way oversize, the elevon fairings should all be the same size, yet somehow Italeri made their outer one twice the size of the inner one. The cockpit coaming, and well everything inside the cockpit is just basically wrong. It would be easier to backdate the AMK kit, you would end up with something that is far better than the Italeri kit. For those wanting a new Mirage III/5, i'm guessing you want AMK to do it purely for what might be a lower price as there is not anything wrong with the Mk III HPM kit. I have been on a bit of a spending splurge with HPM over the last couple of months getting 4 of the dual boxings, one of the Chilean 50DCM, and the new Cyrano boxing and the Venezuelan upgrade, the kits are not costing me any more than say a Tamiya F-16CJ, and although some may argue that is marginally a better kit, I don't think so. I did get a couple PJ kits, that did cost me a hell of a lot more in purchase, but I really wanted to do some Belgian ones, and where else will you get all the work done for you on the vertical stab except the PJ resin tail.. Sorry if this has been a bit of a thread hijack, but I do love my Mirages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladerunner Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 I must say that I'm very impressed with the AMK Kfir, and it builds up very nicely Some aftermarket sets in production already from ScaleWorx for the Kfir C.10/CE and the SAAF Cheetah E. Kfir C.10/CE Cheetah E Cheers, John 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulcrum@ Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 (edited) Yes, but you have seen the price ! Edited February 7, 2018 by Fulcrum@ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICMF Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Resin is expensive and the kit is cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladerunner Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Guys, Resin will always be costly. And if the host kit is affordable, what a bargain! Besides, nobody has a gun to your head to buy ScaleWorx products . The material/production costs of an injection molded kit is minimal, while most of the rest of it's price is recovering money invested to have the extremely costly injection molds made. Thousands have to be sold before they see profit. ScaleWorx, my only source of income, has been running for 17 years now, and it has most certainly become more expensive over the years to produce kits. I spend my time scratch building and producing models for other modeler's happiness, sacrificing/depriving my time to build my own stash of +- 400 kits. Come to think of it, the last time I built and completed a model for myself was January 2012! If you have never actually been involved with the production of resin products, here's a few overheads you might have overlooked: . 1. You need a place to work, so rent has to be paid. 2. South Africa is not a cold place, so air conditioning is vital and runs most of the day, using a lot of electricity. 3. Staff do not work for free, so salaries have to be paid. 4. New products have to be researched, scratch built and reverse engineered to user friendly components relatively easy to cast. The only thing worse than a miser, is a rivet counter. So, I have to do my best to provide a quality/accurate product. 5. Rubber and resin is not cheap, can't go without it. 6. "Gas blanket" aerosol (costs more than a 2kg batch of resin!) is a necessity in Cape Town, as moisture ruins resin within 3 days without treatment. 7. Molds only last for approximately 20 to 30 copies, then has to be replaced, and not every cast is successful, which means the mold loses a "life" with every part rejected. 8. Inevitable wastage/spilleage of resin when casting, especially two-part molds. 8. Boxes and packaging materials are essential to purchase, and fuel required in the car to collect. 9. Instructions have to be printed, so cartridges and paper for the printer. 10. Photo-etched parts are made Johannesburg 1300km away from Cape Town, and couriers also adds to the cost. 11. Decals are made in Port Elizabeth 970km away from Cape Town, so it's posted and collected at the post office, which is collected with the car, which also doesn't run on water. If it did, it would probably have cost more, considering Cape Town is under Level 6 water restrictions. 12. Clear plastic for vac-forming purchased and collected. An oven has to run to heat the plastic, which then goes onto the vac-forming machine. More electricity... 13. A lot of time is taken up with packing parts in kits and then in boxes and wrapped to once again drive to the post office. The next time you Google the price of rubber and resin, and think "that's not expensive", think again. I have paid some ridiculous prices for models I've wanted, and did so to satisfy my passion for models, because nobody will put a price tag on my sanity Anyway, that's my two cents worth. Enjoy building the Kfir's! Cheers, John 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulcrum@ Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Thanks for all the explanation, it's better for me to understand the price ! i would want to do all versions of exotic mirage III, but i have to choose, now ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 (edited) Sources: https://fr-fr.facebook.com/scaleworx/posts/828065324059477 https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.828063634059646.1073741893.212054182327264&type=3 Quote 1/72 Cheetah D Conversion set - ref.SW72-37 - for the AMK Kfir C2/C7. Note: Canards absent in the picture, and will be included in the set. Email [email protected] for queries or orders V.P. Edited July 26, 2018 by Homebee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) Sources: https://www.facebook.com/scaleworx/posts/1014024762130198 https://www.facebook.com/pg/scaleworx/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1007903422742332 Quote - ref. SW72-39 - Cheetah C conversion set test assembly of the resin parts. V.P. Edited June 18, 2019 by Homebee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasermonkey Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 I was looking at the future releases page over at Hannants last night and noticed that the AMK Kfir was on the list. No date was mentioned, but it would be nice to see the kit again. I'm pretty sure I'd get a couple more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbolt Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 3 hours ago, lasermonkey said: I was looking at the future releases page over at Hannants last night and noticed that the AMK Kfir was on the list. No date was mentioned, but it would be nice to see the kit again. I'm pretty sure I'd get a couple more. Future release? They had an AMK shipment in about a week ago which included the Kfir. They sold out pretty quick though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymond Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 And still sold out for today. Just hope for a rerun. Hope so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 51 minutes ago, Nymond said: And still sold out for today. Just hope for a rerun. Hope so. Indeed. I built one. It was a very nice kit. I also have one in The Stash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) Didn't AMK close? Or at least they seem to have been on hiatus for a while. I wouldn't expect any new production run of this kit unless the company gets back or someone buy the mould. A pity as their Kfir is a great kit Edited January 9 by Giorgio N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drake122 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) Lucky I still have a pair in stash... I managed to talk to my country's local AMK distributor about a year ago, he said he still had plenty available, but most model shops "don't order older releases". He was willing to sell them directly too. This was a year ago, not sure how long stocks lasted. Bottom line is, if you want to buy it nowadays, probably the best idea is to go directly to your local AMK distributor and ask, or get one second hand for inflated price on ebay, etc. AMK went silent. Edited January 9 by drake122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 2 hours ago, drake122 said: or get one second hand for inflated price on ebay Just found one on evilbay. 84 quid!!!! 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis_C Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 I also believe AMK is out of business for some time already. I've decided to finally buy their Kfir about half-year ago and it's not been listed on big H at all. Panical search across the online shops of a large frosty neighbour (unfortunately 95% of online shops to the west of Belarus including ebay do not ship to us anymore) resulted in only one local hobby shop in Murmansk having a Kfir in the stash for about 20 bucks. The story with happy end. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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