bbudde Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 I'm in here. Wasn't here for a week or so. So I will cruise through the forum this evening. Cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Good luck with this! I bought the dogfight double and immediately stuck it at the back of the stash because it was so complicated. I don't mind scratching my own interiors, in fact I enjoy it, but trying to fettle slightly-less-than-perfectly-fitting-and-slightly-too-thick parts together for the same purpose feels like a bit of a chore for me. But I will gladly watch you wrestle with it... Regards, Adrian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted June 8, 2016 Author Share Posted June 8, 2016 Thanks Alex and SJLR. Welcome Benedikt and Adrian, glad to have you along. I've been fiddling with the internals to get them ready for painting. I'm following Stew's technique of 'assemble as much as you can before painting' so that the joins are clean and there's no additional fit problems caused by the paint. And fiddly it is. Some things to watch out for... This part (C11) has four sprue gates but two on the left are cartridges - don't cut them off! Untitled by Ced Bufton, on Flickr Steps 5 and 6 would have you assemble these bits but I'm not going to risk it until I can dry-fit them in the fuselage so they'll be painted first: It'll be easier to detail them separately too. I'll also leave out the pilot's frame until it's painted. By the way, that wheel (for the bay doors?) fits well IF you have it in the right place, otherwise it wobbles. A lot. Step 11 required some clamping in my kit - the back part should be flush with the fuselage and mine was bent: Fitting the seats is fiddly too. Like the pilot's seat I don't think it's possible to assemble them like the drawing so I used the seat squab to line up with the top of the back fuselage (if you see what I mean): I finally got everything ready for the RLM02 and then realised I also need to prepare the bombs, bomb racks and other stuff in the bomb bay so I lost motivation. This lot is ready though so some progress: Thanks for looking, more tomorrow (I hope) 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beard Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Blimey, there's some fiddly-looking stuff there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Hmm, looking at that seat Ced, I'm still not convinced I managed to get mine in the right place...!! I think mine's going to stay stalled a while longer! Keith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob85 Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Good lord that does look fiddley!! But you appear to be handling this well.... Lots of dry fitting me thinks! Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike romeo Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Yep, good skills, Ced! Good grief! It looks even more faffy than I thought! Regards Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radleigh Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Nice detail for such a cheap kit... I have been after one of these, quite like the Do-17. Looking forward to seeing this done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spadgent Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Good start Ced. I'm dug in on this one. John. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted June 8, 2016 Author Share Posted June 8, 2016 Thanks guys and welcome Radleigh and John, nice to have you aboard. Nothing else done tonight but I thought I'd take some more shots after Keith's comments - the seats are a bit, er, iffy. Here's the diagram in the instructions and the closest I could get: The rear seat isn't too bad but the front one wouldn't perch for me as per the diagram - it fouls at the top. Positioning is not helped by the weird shape of the fuselage but I'm happy with this on dry fit (until I find the crew won't fit...) Untitled by Ced Bufton, on Flickr 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 At least I didn't have to worry about the crew fitting! I'm pretty sure I took a chunk off the top left of the backrest & it still ended up wonky (I say pretty sure as I'm too lazy to go & dig the thing out to look!) You look to have got it much better positioned Ced! Keith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Lewis Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 (edited) Nice progress. I also found the front bomb aimers seat to be a bit fragile and managed to break it off when trying to force it's occupant into place next to the pilot. I ended up with him at an angle and decided he was saying something to the pilot That's in my Castle Farm Dornier build. I also improved the close fit of parts by removing that very fine mould seam on their edges. Hope this helps I'm gonna be following this one Edited June 8, 2016 by Phil Lewis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06/24 Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Well I have this in the stash, but it's German so it's a long way down the queue. No harm watching a maestro build it in the meantime though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexN Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Assembly looking good. Great detail in a relatively small scale! I want one! Hmmm... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Dapple Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Good progress Ced, keep it up chap, it does all have a high FQR* but once it is all fitted together it does give a very good idea of the claustrophobic qualities of the cockpit and it looks really... well sort of real Take your time and make sure you know where you are fitting each part before you attempt to fit it and you shouldn't go too far astray. The two areas I had the most annoying problems with were the panels aft of the exhausts and the little skylight windows in the bomb-bay roof; I would be better prepared for these areas next time but it might be something you have to experience for yourself Cheers, Stew * Faff Quotient Ratio, the scale by which the amount of faff in any given kit assembly sequence is measured (as eny fule kno) 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Aha! found you, and only two pages in. There's certainly a lot of ' stuff ' in the cockpit for 1/72 scale. Cheers John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted June 9, 2016 Author Share Posted June 9, 2016 At least I didn't have to worry about the crew fitting! I'm pretty sure I took a chunk off the top left of the backrest & it still ended up wonky (I say pretty sure as I'm too lazy to go & dig the thing out to look!) You look to have got it much better positioned Ced! Keith Thanks Keith - not the easiest of parts to fit. Nice progress. I also found the front bomb aimers seat to be a bit fragile and managed to break it off when trying to force it's occupant into place next to the pilot. I ended up with him at an angle and decided he was saying something to the pilot That's in my Castle Farm Dornier build. I also improved the close fit of parts by removing that very fine mould seam on their edges. Hope this helps I'm gonna be following this one Thanks Phil and welcome. Good tip on the 'chatty crew' - I don't know how I missed this one; I love your interiors and I'll certainly have a go at the pre-shading (if I remember!) The very fine mold line on the Airfix new tools is a pain and needs to be watched out for as you say. I use the Citadel 'mouldline remover' to make short work of them. Great tool. Well I have this in the stash, but it's German so it's a long way down the queue. No harm watching a maestro build it in the meantime though Thanks Jon - you're too kind... no, really, I'm not sure I can live up to that! Glad to have you along Assembly looking good. Great detail in a relatively small scale! I want one! Hmmm... Thanks Alex - fiddly! Good progress Ced, keep it up chap, it does all have a high FQR* but once it is all fitted together it does give a very good idea of the claustrophobic qualities of the cockpit and it looks really... well sort of real Take your time and make sure you know where you are fitting each part before you attempt to fit it and you shouldn't go too far astray. The two areas I had the most annoying problems with were the panels aft of the exhausts and the little skylight windows in the bomb-bay roof; I would be better prepared for these areas next time but it might be something you have to experience for yourself Cheers, Stew * Faff Quotient Ratio, the scale by which the amount of faff in any given kit assembly sequence is measured (as eny fule kno) Thanks Stew. I'm reading your build as a reference (with Jaime's and now Phil's) but I'd stopped reading it (again) when you started the Defiant. Silly of me. I've now made (more) notes on the instructions regarding the bombs and those windows. I'll also dither about the engine / cowl fit suggestions but probably try my 'temporary cowl fit and spray' lazy technique. Probably. I'll fit and sand the windows as suggested, although I've already stuck the masks on - rats! Thanks for the tips Aha! found you, and only two pages in. There's certainly a lot of ' stuff ' in the cockpit for 1/72 scale. Cheers John Hi John and welcome, good to have you aboard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted June 9, 2016 Author Share Posted June 9, 2016 Finally got some paint on... RLM02 by Ced Bufton, on Flickr Mrs B is dragging me to some 'chick flick' later ('Love & Friendship' - at least it's Kate Beckinsale) and then over to the local for a beer with the boys. See you tomorrow! 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrlx Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Paint finish looking good Ced! I'm not completely sure, but thought the instrument panel was black. Cheers Jaime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted June 10, 2016 Author Share Posted June 10, 2016 Thanks Jaime - you are, of course, correct. I think I've just sprayed the back and the decal i/p will cover the front with a bit of touching up. No PE for me and I keep admiring the detail on yours... I must resist! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan B Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 The IP would be RLM66 which is a dark grey colour. Duncan B 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanC Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Whenever I see one of these Dorniers being built or ready for inspection I'm inspired to get one. But I've been struggling a bit with the Blenheim and Bf 109E that are on the stocks at the moment. I just love these new Airfix kits, but I'm thinking I might need a short break from the constant application of 'good old modelling skills' for a while and tackle something with a slightly lower FQR (love that..) Going to follow this build closely though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted June 10, 2016 Author Share Posted June 10, 2016 Thanks Duncan, helpful. Thanks Ian and welcome. I'm enjoying the faff at the moment (although that seat wobbled and has now had a couple of drops of Contacta applied) but we'll see if it gets better (hopefully). Internals addressed this afternoon. Untitled by Ced Bufton, on Flickr Out for dinner at friends this evening and I suspect I will be 'fragile' tomorrow... 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan B Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 I'll type quietly in case your head hurts, nice work on the internals. It looks like a very nicely detailed kit, must get round to mine soon. Duncan B 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 insides looking good, thats where mine begain to go wrong, ordered some new RLM02 for it but decided to use up my humbrol pot on it and was a bit too liberal applying it made a tight fit even harder when it came to adding the seats and crew, and indeed the underside window 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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