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ScanmanDan

1/48 ACE Flak 38 w/trailer WIP

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Just got this one ready for paint shop this morning. Nice little kit let down somewhat by very basic instructions.

Wheels kept separate to make it easier to paint.

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Trailer works as full size - pull a pin and the trailer drops away, very cool and over engineered in that special german way ;)

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I should have some fun painting this one.

Plan is to have it towed behind my Bedford.

Thanks for looking in.

Dan

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That looks like it will be a really nice piece whenever it's completed. Bob H.

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I presume the white plastic bits and copper wire are you added detailing?

Very neat work, are you adding any crew, or a towing vehicle?

cheers

T

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While I'm mucking' about with some cleaning up I thought I'd push this one along.  I've worked out the idea for a little base that needed a small tree.  I started knocking one up from bits I have had around the shop.  I am trying one of those paper foliage sets which I think I might be able to get attached in something a little less than a zillion hours.  I am posting my progress after about 5 hours of work getting the trunk bashed and starting to glue on the foliage.  I have learn a bit and know what I'd do different next time, but I think it's coming out okay.  What do you think?

 

Progress;

 

Checking the height. ;)

 

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If my eyes don't burn out I'll get the rest of the foliage on tomorrow.

 

Thanks for looking in.

 

Dan

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Well another afternoon gluing little bits of paper.  I think that as a proof of concept it is getting there.  I have the materials worked out I just need to go and look at some real trees because I really mucked up the armature.  I am delighted to find out that you can edge glue these little leaf bits to a vertical surface with some careful mucking about.  Next time my armature will have much more verticality. 

 

Progress?

 

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I need to add some more leaves, especially ones above and below the plane of the branches.  That's why I always like to try new things.  To find out what NOT to do.

 

Thanks for dropping in for a look.

 

Dan

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6 hours ago, ScanmanDan said:

 I have the materials worked out I just need to go and look at some real trees because I really mucked up the armature.

think it looks good.   But, yes,  looking at the real thing helps  (though sometimes when you are all comfy and settled in at the bench you don't, unless yr comp is easily accessible.)

 

Have you looked at @Badder  ongoing diorama  project, where he tackles all sorts od scenery,  and describes in  word  and picture his methods.

Very interesting,  and much to be learned.

 

What brand are the tree leaves?

 

cheers

T

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8 hours ago, ScanmanDan said:

Well another afternoon gluing little bits of paper.  I think that as a proof of concept it is getting there.  I have the materials worked out I just need to go and look at some real trees because I really mucked up the armature.  I am delighted to find out that you can edge glue these little leaf bits to a vertical surface with some careful mucking about.  Next time my armature will have much more verticality. 

 

Progress?

 

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I need to add some more leaves, especially ones above and below the plane of the branches.  That's why I always like to try new things.  To find out what NOT to do.

 

Thanks for dropping in for a look.

 

Dan

Hi Dan,

I found your WIP after Troy tagged me in the post above and I'm glad he did. It's great to see someone else tackling a tree!

They really are a pain in the wotsit, but you can't beat a good tree, they are well worth the time and effort.

 

I won't touch those pre-made 'model railway-type trees' you can buy, or those plastic armature ones where you have to stick the 'woolly' fibre on and sprinkle with herbs. The armatures are awful, and as you know, armatures are a very important ingredient if you want to make a good tree!

 

Looking at yours I would say that actually,the main armature isn't bad at all, and the leaves are fine. Yes, paper leaves 'edge-glue' nicely, especially with thin CA, which is what I use. i prefer the 'immediate bond' which this gives. I don't know about you but I dab a spot of CA onto the 'twig' with a toothpick, switch ends, lick that end and use the saliva to pick up a leaf, then offer that up to the spot of glue. If you have a lot of leaves already made up and a large blob of CA on a plastic sheet, the process can actually be fairly quick. Just don't forget which end of the toothpick is the CA end and which is the 'licky' end!

 

Back to your tree. It's the 'twiggy' bits that let it down IMHO. But only because every single 'bunch of twigs' is identical, and so all of the 'bunches of leaves' look identical.  Basically each of your 'bunches' of leaves are arranged in a circle like the numbers around a clock. It's always best to create some variation. I don't know if your 'twigs' are bendable - maybe a bit of heat could be applied - but if you were to bend certain twigs upwards, or downwards, or splay them out, or push them together, or even fold them in half, laterally, this would help with the realism. You could also fix 'twig armatures' directly above or below others, giving you a 'double or even treble thickness' of twigs/leaves. Also you could add leaves further down the twig, towards the branch - which would add bulk and depth.

 

Oh, one more tip.... always stick your leaves to the twigs and the twigs to the branches, in that order, and only when a whole branch with all its twigs and leaves is finished, should you fix it to the tree. Stick your first branch at the bottom and work your way around and up, spiralling all the way to the top.  As you move up the tree the branches generally angle from horizontal towards vertical, the last branch sticking straight up in the air. (The leaves themselves can be horizontal though)

 

 

 

I hope this helps, although I think you probably have all these ideas in your head anyway!

I am following with interest.

 

Rearguards,

Badder

 

 

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Progress;

 

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Last couple of days getting the base knocked into some kind of shape.  All those tiny little bits of cork were driving me nuts in the end.  I do think it might just look okay once I get some paint on it.  I am working out what to add to this scene but at the very least it looks somewhat like what I had envisaged before I started.

 

Troy- The tree kit was by the company Kamizukui.  They make a small range of plant kits in 1/48 scale but they do a much extended range in 1/35.  Nice kits but $$$$.  Thank you for the links to Badders' work.  Excellent read :)

 

Badder - Thank you very much for your encouragement and guidance.  I have had a lot of fun going through your post ( with more still to look at :) )  I will be trying out some of your ideas to see if I can get good results.  I don't know if I'm brave enough to stick a tree together with super glue.  Almost too fast :)  I did add another layer of leaves to my tree here to get some more loft but alas I couldn't play too much with the individual leaves now that they are glued to the stems.  Next time though I'll do more.

 

 

Thanks for looking in.

 

Dan

 

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Progress;

 

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And I have started the figures.  Lots of scraping to get the details sharper and open up the cuff,etc.

 

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I have another figure in the works so we'll see if I can get them to look okay.

 

Thanks for looking in.

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Thanks Chris, let me know if you think the new tree is an improvement. 

 

 I did some work on getting the second figure into primer so I can at the very least do some painting this coming week.  He is a Aerobonus figure and is slightly shorter than the Tamiya/Verlinden hybrid. I'm not too fussed as I like having different shapes and sizes of figures on the diorama as it looks a bit more realistic.
 
My task for today was to try out another way to do trees.  Materials to try were, Seafoam with scatter material for leaves.  While I didn't have exactly what was outlined to hand I made do with what I had and worked as best I could.  
 
Here is my progress;
 
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I have to say that I think I like this one better.  A shame really as the paper one took ages to make.   I have to spray some light yellow-green and to add some highlights and finish with a shot of Dullcoat but I think I looks more to scale.  
 
What do you folks think? 
 
Thanks for looking in.
 
Dan

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It's going to be a fantastic little vignette, the detailed one of the cannon, it's surprising, incredible that it's 1/48 ...:popcorn:

Cheers mate :D

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