Albeback52 Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 (edited) Maybe it is just me or, I am completely missing the point somehow but, are people actually complaining about "inaccuracies" in models of subjects that actually do not even exist in real life ?. . What next? I can just imagine Dragon issuing a 1/35 scale Smaug only to have it condemned as "fatally flawed" and "wholly inaccurate" because his tail was "dimensionally incorrect" Allan (shaking his head but keeping tongue firmly in cheek!) ps - I would actually like a 1/35 scale Smaug! Edited February 20, 2016 by Albeback52 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygif290368 Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Hold on a minute... that's a snow speeder you can't have that in 1:35, it flies and isn't a helicopter so it should be 1:32... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSolo Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Look how awesome the "real" Snowspeeder looks thou, with its shorter nose it just looks right, its a really good design, proportionally correct to itself. To build anything in 1/35 Star Wars and not get it looking right is SUCH a MASSIVE wasted opportunity. Who wants to be known as the company that did some 1/35 kits years ago, but now theres better ones.. so no-one cares.. or.. be known as a LEGEND, a company that nailed it and gained HUGE respect, by building models that might one day be equalled, but NEVER be surpassed, models that will sell forever! In the future, would you be willing to trade all the days from this day to that for one chance, just one chance to come back here and build a more accurate kit, tell your competitiors that they may make good kits, but they'll never take your market share as you are STAR WARS LEGENDS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSolo Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Smaug would be huge in 1/35 lol, id still like to se a Avatar dragon? the green/blue ones, the blue (names escape me) people fly around on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygif290368 Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Smaug's not all that big, Wikipedia states that it's about 20 to 25 meters long. So that would make it 750mm in 1:35. Or should that be 1:32 as it flies and isn't a helicopter😂 AT-AT versus Smaug would look ok, if you had the space!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSolo Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 (edited) Oh thats not too big then, id seen the "130 meters in length" and "bigger than two jumbo jets" pre production ideas, AT-AT vs Smaug would look good but i fear the AT-AT would look like a Salmon being taken by an Eagle! Edited February 20, 2016 by BobSolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygif290368 Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Nah, the AT-AT is supposed to be 15m to 20m tall. They look like a crazy mash up on the old godzila movies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gekko_1 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 More teasing, looks pretty good! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Moore Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 I'm still a bit concerned about the apparent lack of any internal detail for the AT-ST. Just hoping this is a rapid prototyped mock-up, and the final mould will have opening hatches and an interior. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubster72 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Considering that the AT-ST is just a clay mock-up, any attempt to portray internal detail is impossible at this stage. Perhaps once it's cast in styrene we'll have a better idea of the kits full features. However, as most 1/35 armour kits have little or no internal detail, I wouldn't hold my breath. The possible lack will be addressed by AM manufacturers I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Moore Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Considering that the AT-ST is just a clay mock-up, any attempt to portray internal detail is impossible at this stage. Perhaps once it's cast in styrene we'll have a better idea of the kits full features. However, as most 1/35 armour kits have little or no internal detail, I wouldn't hold my breath. The possible lack will be addressed by AM manufacturers I suppose. Well, it's probably a 3D printed mock-up, but it's not clay. I'd expect opening hatches at the very least. The 1/48 Bandai realease came with a full cockpit so it would be very disappointing if Dragon couldn't manage the same in 1/35 Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSolo Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 (edited) Re Snowspeeder: If its done in a 3D Program, it should be easy for Dragon to still make changes. If they can slide the mount for the front of the gunbarrel up to meet the side of the cockpit (ref: http://caps.pictures/198/0-starwars5/full/star-wars5-movie-screencaps.com-2915.jpg) that should (along with straighter gun barrels) also toe-in the gun barrels. I also noticed that the front barrel ends on the life size prop did have some slight recessed details on them (ref: http://caps.pictures/198/0-starwars5/full/star-wars5-movie-screencaps.com-2911.jpg ) http://caps.pictures/198/0-starwars5/full/star-wars5-movie-screencaps.com-2986.jpg How cool is that view out the window, what a cool design! Hopefully at this early stage of the design ( these arnt in Phase one ) Dragon can make changes and shorten the front end too, id love to have two of them, but only if they are more accurate. Edited February 21, 2016 by BobSolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew March Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 The top window is also larger on the life size prop, more in line with the one dragon are producing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Moore Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 That's one of the reasons I don't get too worried about absolute fidelity with the studio models. Most of the time they didn't exactly match the detailing on the full size props Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSolo Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 (edited) http://caps.pictures/198/0-starwars5/full/star-wars5-movie-screencaps.com-3502.jpg http://caps.pictures/198/0-starwars5/full/star-wars5-movie-screencaps.com-3499.jpg Your right the sunroof is quite big on the life size prop above and on the model used below. http://caps.pictures/198/0-starwars5/full/star-wars5-movie-screencaps.com-3166.jpg When measured in pic above, the sloping front of the cockpit canopy is only slightly shorter than the front ends length. That should be easy to fix in a 3D program AND it will save plastic making them cheaper to manufacture! Its a WIN - WIN for everyone! Edited February 21, 2016 by BobSolo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICMF Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Considering that the AT-ST is just a clay mock-up, No it isn't. And once it is tooled and injected in styrene, you won't have an idea of the kit's features, you will have a finished kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Baker Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 That's one of the reasons I don't get too worried about absolute fidelity with the studio models. Most of the time they didn't exactly match the detailing on the full size props Andy I personally consider it the other way around. 'Full scale' set props are usually undersized (IIRC the TESB Falcon set prop) was 80%). The filming models are what you watch most of the time on screen- the set props are there for people to walk around and dive context to. The Lambda Shuttle had a lot of distortions to get it built on stage and those construction blueprints were circulated creating a lot of disinformation about it's cockpit and overall shape. Sometimes a company pulls it's references from multiple sources, striving for a happy medium. Revell's TOS Enterprise incorporates info even from the animated series, unfortunately this results in a model kit that does not look like any particular version of the ship. From what I have read, it seems Dragon has been using sources from books and online blueprints instead of visiting the actual model and taking measurements. Things do look off on the Snowspeeder proportions, I hope this will be corrected before molds are tooled. I would love to have an accurate 1/35 replica of this craft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Dragon don't include an interior in their 1/35 AFV kits AFAIK, if they put one in the AT-AT, it'll cost the (that's no) moon. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaitea Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Well the image of their falcon is on Twitter Oh dear, theyve used the the wrong Falcon, that's the retired 32" with a soft detailed TFA radar dish Bandai wins again J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSolo Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 (edited) Oh dear, i got quite excited at the thought of a massive Dragon Falcon, but if this lil one is the way of the future im loosing interest fast. Help me oBandai wan kenobi you're my only hope. Edited February 25, 2016 by BobSolo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Baker Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 I like the scale Dragon is using but the accuracy of some of these kits bothers me. as mentioned up-thread, These are well known subjects with a lot of references available, being produced for a public who knows the differences. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matiwashere Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I might have to get me one of those snowspeeders, I don't care if it's not 100% accurate. Anyone knows when they're going to be released? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Baker Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 As far as I know no release dates of any of the kits has been officially announced. Personally I do hope it will not be soon and these are digitally printed test pieces- that way there is some chance of having the various problems corrected before tooling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSolo Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 I opened another Bandai Snowspeeder today before adding it to my stash and in 1/48 it was bigger than i remembered and i was blown away by just how cool the kit looked and then it hit me just how bad this Dragon one is. The Snowspeeder design is just awesome, it has to be done right, i really hope Dragon get it right before production. Having said that if the price of Dragons awfull 1/44 Falcon is anything to go by this Snowspeeder, good or not, will probably cost the moon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomMajor Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 has there been any mention of release dates yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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