DAG058 Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) A very well done to everyone who has entered the De Havilland Mega Group Build so far! We have a great variety of aircraft on display and a huge range of kits. I have taken the time to crunch the statics to see where we are at. If this works out I will enter it on the first page of the GB chat so it's easy to follow. Bellow is a list of DH Aircraft types, I have highlighted the aircraft we have represented in the GB. This is purely for reference so if you want to enter an aircraft that is already highlighted please continue to do so, more the merrier! Thus far we have 40 enteries, spread over 18 Aircraft types. Mosquitos are the most popular with 14 enteries, followed by 6 Vampires/Vampire trainers Biplanes de Havilland Biplane No. 1 de Havilland Biplane No. 2 Airco DH.1 2 seat pusher scout Airco DH.2 pusher scout Airco DH.3 twin engine bomber Airco DH.4 single engine bomber Airco DH.4A transport Airco DH.5 scout Airco DH.6 trainer Airco DH.9 single engine bomber Airco DH.9A – Westland development of the DH.9 with Liberty engine Airco DH.9C – conversion of DH.9 to passenger transport Airco DH.9J – re-engined DH.9 with radial engine Airco DH.10 Amiens twin engine bomber DH.11 Oxford long range twin engine day bomber DH.12 – unbuilt proposed derivative of DH.11 DH.14 Okapi single engine bomber DH.15 Gazelle experimental flying test bed DH.16 4 passenger airliner similar to DH.9C DH.18 8 passenger airliner DH.27 Derby single engine long range day bomber DH.34 DH.37 DH.42 Dormouse DH.42A & B Dingo DH.48 Special re-engined DH.9 DH.50 Giant Moth DH.51 DH.54 Highclere DH.56 Hyena DH.60 Moth, Cirrus Moth, Genet Moth, Gypsy Moth DH.60G III Moth Major DH.61 Giant Moth DH.65 Hound DH.66 Hercules DH.67 DH.72 Canberra DH.82 Tiger Moth biplane trainer DH.83 Fox Moth DH.84 Dragon DH.86 Express DH.87 Hornet Moth DH.89 Dragon Rapide DH.90 Dragonfly DH.92 Dolphin Glider DH.52 Piston-engined monoplanes DH.29 Doncaster 10 passenger airliner DH.53 Humming Bird ultralight monoplane DH.71 Tiger Moth racer DH.75 Hawk Moth DH.77 lightweight fighter DH.80 Puss Moth DH.81 Swallow Moth DH.85 Leopard Moth DH.88 Comet racer DH.91 Albatross 4-engined airliner DH.93 Don DH.94 Moth Minor monoplane trainer DH.95 Flamingo twin-engined airliner DH.98 Mosquito & Sea Mosquito A highly successful wooden fighter-bomber of WWII DH.103 Hornet & Sea Hornet twin-engined fighter DH.104 Dove & Devon twin-engined airliner DH.114 Heron 4-engined airliner de Havilland Technical School designs de Havilland T.K.1 de Havilland T.K.2 de Havilland T.K.4 de Havilland T.K.5 Civil and military jet transports DH.106 Comet DH.121 Trident later the HS Trident DH.125 later the HS.125 DH.146 later the BAe.146 Military jets DH.100 Vampire & Sea Vampire (1945) DH.110 Sea Vixen (1959) DH.112 Venom (1952) Sea Venom DH.113 & DH.115 Vampire two seaters Experimental aircraft DH.108 Swallow (1946) Autogyro Cierva C.24 DHC Aircraft DHC-1 Chipmunk DHC-2 Beaver DHC-3 Otter DHC-4 Caribou DHC-5 Buffalo DHC-6 Twin Otter DHC-7 Dash 7 DHC-8 Dash 8 AN UPDATED LIST AND STATISTICS CAN BE FOUND ON PAGE 1 OF THIS THREAD Edited March 11, 2017 by DAG058 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob G Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 We're allowing the 146? My Mossie is stalled until some bits arrive (and I find some exhausts) so I may make a start on one of the half dozen Revell 146s that I have in the stash. Better order some decal sheets... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG058 Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 19 minutes ago, Rob G said: We're allowing the 146? My Mossie is stalled until some bits arrive (and I find some exhausts) so I may make a start on one of the half dozen Revell 146s that I have in the stash. Better order some decal sheets... Now you've got me thinking! Reading into it the link to De Havilland seems to be a bit weak, what do you reckon? All I can see is that it was built at an old De Havilland factory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wamwig Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Hmmmm bit of a minefield that one, I would go along with the 146, as it was built at Hatfield with a workforce that was still dominated by de H (my father did almost 40 years at Hatfield, de H/HS/BAe) and it is numbered in the old de H series but presumably that then excludes any Woodford (Avro) assembled 146 airframes and the later RJ's, although the front fuse was still Hatfield built? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob G Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 If we're going to exclude the 146 (and I'm not really worried either way), we should also drop the Trident and 125 off the list too, seeing as dH had ceased to exist as a company by the time these designs were close to approval/production. Hairs could be split about design teams, production facilities, marketing names etc, but Hawker Siddeley bought dH in 1960, which effectively ended dH's existence. I'm cool either way, I just wanted an excuse to start another model instead of finishing off the several dozen that I have on the shelf. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG058 Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 1 hour ago, wamwig said: Hmmmm bit of a minefield that one, I would go along with the 146, as it was built at Hatfield with a workforce that was still dominated by de H (my father did almost 40 years at Hatfield, de H/HS/BAe) and it is numbered in the old de H series but presumably that then excludes any Woodford (Avro) assembled 146 airframes and the later RJ's, although the front fuse was still Hatfield built? 9 minutes ago, Rob G said: If we're going to exclude the 146 (and I'm not really worried either way), we should also drop the Trident and 125 off the list too, seeing as dH had ceased to exist as a company by the time these designs were close to approval/production. Hairs could be split about design teams, production facilities, marketing names etc, but Hawker Siddeley bought dH in 1960, which effectively ended dH's existence. I'm cool either way, I just wanted an excuse to start another model instead of finishing off the several dozen that I have on the shelf. It's a tough one! I think the Trident had a much stronger link with DH but I know exactly what your saying Rob. It's an area I don't know a great deal about. Does anyone else have any input? Let us know if you have any information or cause for approval/rejection! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Were the 146, 121 and 125 designed by D.H? Even if not built by them if they were designed by D.H. then I say include them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wamwig Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 And what about Airspeed, it being a wholly owned subsidiary of de H from 1940! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Same thing; were their products designed by D.H.? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wamwig Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 The Horsa was designed at Salisbury Hall and the first pair were built there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 If DHC is included you will need to add De Havilland Australia too with their Dromader? Trevor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisk Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Max Headroom said: If DHC is included you will need to add De Havilland Australia too with their Dromader? Trevor I think it is called Drover Great list you put together DAG. But how about showing the types currently under construction in this GB in a different colour? Cheers, Peter PS, I just realized that you done exactly this by showing the types in bold ... Edited March 2, 2017 by Basilisk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarLos Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 I can't believe no one is entering a Chipmunk! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 4 hours ago, Basilisk said: I think it is called Drover Duh 🙄 Wheres my Plane Spotter for Dummies colouring in book? Trevor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG058 Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 7 hours ago, Black Knight said: Were the 146, 121 and 125 designed by D.H? Even if not built by them if they were designed by D.H. then I say include them. This is my opinion too BK, hopefully others will agree. 6 hours ago, wamwig said: And what about Airspeed, it being a wholly owned subsidiary of de H from 1940! 5 hours ago, wamwig said: The Horsa was designed at Salisbury Hall and the first pair were built there. I will need to do a bit of research into these! Is anyone planning on entering these as builds? If so let me know and I'll get on it. 4 hours ago, Max Headroom said: If DHC is included you will need to add De Havilland Australia too with their Dromader? Trevor Very true Trevor, again let me research to clarify. Are you wanting to enter a Drover? 4 hours ago, Basilisk said: I think it is called Drover Great list you put together DAG. But how about showing the types currently under construction in this GB in a different colour? Cheers, Peter PS, I just realized that you done exactly this by showing the types in bold ... Thanks Peter. Yes the ones in bold are types which we have enteries for. I didn't want them to be scored out, or anything similar, incase people don't read the full script and think that 'it's already taken' and don't enter theirs. If you click on the aircraft name it is also hyperlinked to the Wikipedia page, pretty handy if you are unsure of the type and want a quick reference. 3 hours ago, CarLos said: I can't believe no one is entering a Chipmunk! Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stuart Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 9 hours ago, wamwig said: Hmmmm bit of a minefield that one, I would go along with the 146, as it was built at Hatfield with a workforce that was still dominated by de H (my father did almost 40 years at Hatfield, de H/HS/BAe) and it is numbered in the old de H series but presumably that then excludes any Woodford (Avro) assembled 146 airframes and the later RJ's, although the front fuse was still Hatfield built? If you exclude aircraft NOT built by deHavilland factories, then that will, potentially, open aanother minefield where sub-contract work was carried out ... a lot of Mosquitoes were built by sub-contractors in High Wycombe, and, similarly, the wooden parts of Vampires. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 How about anything that was given a Dh project number? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Hi I'm not aware of a Drover kit and hacking one out of an Airfix Heron would be beyond my abilities! Put me down for something De H - not sure what though...... Trevor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyby Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Can't see this on the list but I've just bought an AZ Models DH-82B Floatplane "Queen Bee" if this qualifies count me in please? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG058 Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 1 hour ago, allyby said: Can't see this on the list but I've just bought an AZ Models DH-82B Floatplane "Queen Bee" if this qualifies count me in please? That most definitely qualifies, your in! Note the the list isn't totally inclusive, it won't show every variant, just the main types. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Certainly the prototype 125's are eligible https://www.flickr.com/photos/39411748@N06/5943114386 It says De Havilland on the side! Originally to be called the Jet Dragon, I think the name had been dropped by the time G-ARYA flew. Trevor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG058 Posted March 4, 2017 Author Share Posted March 4, 2017 To re-cap, the general consensus is that the 121, 125 & 146 all qualify as they were, at the very least, designed by de Havilland. I for one am very happy with this, if there are any objections please speak now or forever hold your silence. In other news, we have our first build up in the Gallery! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG058 Posted March 6, 2017 Author Share Posted March 6, 2017 I have updated the statistics on the first page of the GB chat if you are interested to see how things a progressing. I plan to do that every Monday now so we can see how we are getting on. There is fantastic work on display in this GB, and a lot of very interesting enteries, well done all. If you are still interested in joining please do so. All you have to do is start a build thread of your entry and try to keep us up to date with your progress. Check the GB rules or contact a host if you are unsure of anything. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffB Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 I'm enjoying the list DAG . If things go to plan, I should be moving three more types to the 'being built' category before the end of the GB..... Cliff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Mollica Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 I would like to join with an Airfix Chippy please. I'll probably start it at the beginning of April. Many thanks Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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