vppelt68 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I'll probably bash together a Block 30 D that's out of the box-es with Revell parts. But probably not during this STGB 😉. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Leijdens Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Hi Guys,  I am currently in the building process of F-16 when today I discovered this F-16 group build... So maybe this is a good opportunity for my first WIP on Britmodeller... But I have already started the kit so I think you have to decide if I am over the 25% mark..   The kit and also the chosen livery:    And the following after market products are to be used:     The progress so far:      Hope I am allowed to participate!   Erik     3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 golly gosh!! Â yes you are very much on the limit (or over ).......but seeing it's your very first Britmodeller GB and you asked very nicely.... ok then. You do still have quite a bit of work to do so it'll be interesting to follow, plus the colour scheme is really nice. It looks like there'll be a few Tiger Meets aircraft in this GB! Â So get a thread started with all the details you've done so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Leijdens Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Thanks Rich!! Will start a thread today!   Erik   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Please, can anyone help me with the precise diameter of the searchlight in RDAF, RNoAF and ADF variants? Thanks in advance (I have drill already closeby and ready to start making holes) ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirageiv Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, vppelt68 said: Please, can anyone help me with the precise diameter of the searchlight in RDAF, RNoAF and ADF variants? Thanks in advance (I have drill already closeby and ready to start making holes) ... Â I did a 1/48 RNoAF jet where measurements were scaled from a 99% perfect side on angle, it gave 2.4mm in 1/48, this was also confirmed by another Norwegian modeller who knows his stuff! So in 1/72 that would be 1.6mm. I just checked on the original image I used and its between 1.59 and 1.6mm for 1/72 i think if using the Revell kit. Alternatively you can drill a larger hole, insert some clear spruce for the light, then scribe a 1.6mm circle for the light, that way the 'join' might be neater. This is not exact but its bloody close imho. Â The image is linked here where you can download a very high-res version to check: Â Â David. Edited January 9, 2017 by mirageiv 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Thank you David! So they are smaller than those in our Hornets, I believe. 1,6mm is perfect in my modelling tolerances, I'll use a 1,5mm drill bit and then clean the opening, that's gonna be good for me. V-P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirageiv Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, vppelt68 said: Thank you David! So they are smaller than those in our Hornets, I believe. 1,6mm is perfect in my modelling tolerances, I'll use a 1,5mm drill bit and then clean the opening, that's gonna be good for me. V-P  I had the same difficulty initially myself trying to find the correct size, I couldn't find any tech/drawing information out there on the real thing and eventually after much searching found this useful image, hopefully it has saved you some time and happy to help.  David.  edit, this is how the dimensions used turned out on mine, looked about right to me!   Edited January 9, 2017 by mirageiv 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Yes David, one can't give a better gift than saving his time, so thanks once more  1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonT Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Exactly what I love about this forum, the people. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 15 minutes ago, SimonT said: Exactly what I love about this forum, the people.  you're very right there! That's one of the things I like about GB's and why I pretty much spent all my time in them. They're lots of fun and everyone one is so helpful and always willing to give helpful advice or that little nudge when you need it.  Well done everyone! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Wat, nobody has signed in doing an ADF variant, and even better an Italian F-16? (Yet, he thinks almost by himself...). With parts surplus for most B and D variants available, all I´d need were decals... And I`m not interested in any special paint schemes But maybe I better finish those four first... V-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filler Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Does anyone know what the difference is between the F-16A and F-16A Plus kits in 1/48 from Hasegawa? I thought A's just went Blocks 1, 5, 10, 15, 25. The A kit was first released in '83 and the A Plus was released in '87 according to Scalemates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Leijdens Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) Well, I know some diffrences;   The first Hasegawa F-16a has the gun cowling not as a separate part but one piece with the upper fuselage. Also it has the smaller stabs. Later A's have the gun cowling as a separate part.  In the A plus the later style gun cowling  is suppllied. I think the cockpit is different too. And off course the larger stabs are included, and the longer tail base for a brake chute  or ecm equipment.   I recon there are more diffrences but this is what pops up now...   Erik   Edited January 10, 2017 by Knetterik Missed a word 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex77 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 23 hours ago, vppelt68 said: Wat, nobody has signed in doing an ADF variant, and even better an Italian F-16? (Yet, he thinks almost by himself...). With parts surplus for most B and D variants available, all I´d need were decals... And I`m not interested in any special paint schemes But maybe I better finish those four first... V-P I'm working on an Italian F-16A ADF at the moment but was past the 25% point when this GB started (the reason why I haven't started my Tamiya F-16C yet).  Italian Kits has standard Italian markings (item IK48001). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Anyone know where I can get hold of a revell 1/72 cheap, already going to cost 23 pound to pick up the bits to do a polish f-16? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Funny how the kits one is after always seem to be sold out everywhere when you really need one. @PhantomBigStu, is this cheap enough? I bought mine there a week ago, the delivery took less than a week and I paid 12 euros shipping & handling for three kits. Germany seems to be logical place to go shopping for Revell (of Germany ) kits. Regards, V-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorwegianWood Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Nice to see some Falcons on the building table. There was a question about the size of the side-mounted searchlight (the "Russian - light"). It is exactly 115mm in diameter in real life. Please make your own calculations to fit your preferred scale ;-)Â 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Thanks, NorwegianWood! It seems mirageiv has been really precise in taking measurements! Well done, both  The searchlight seems to be situated at or very near the upper/lower fuselage seam of a Revell kit. There´s a lot of plastic there. I decided to try another method. I´ll drill a shallow 1,6mm~ish pit, not through the plastic, then add something metallic at the bottom (piece of foil? silver paint?) and fill what´s left with something clear (klear? CA glue?). If that doesn´t work out, I think I should recover that by drilling through and returning to more conventional methods. But all that can take place only after I´ve assembled the pits and joined the fuselage sections, so not this week, I believe. Regards, V-P  1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 37 minutes ago, vppelt68 said: Funny how the kits one is after always seem to be sold out everywhere when you really need one. @PhantomBigStu, is this cheap enough? I bought mine there a week ago, the delivery took less than a week and I paid 12 euros shipping & handling for three kits. Germany seems to be logical place to go shopping for Revell (of Germany ) kits. Regards, V-P  shipping kills it, looks like it will have to be a uk seller, just seen wonderlands have one fairly cheap, sure Ill be ordering sone more paint from them in the coming weeks so looks like I will order from them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whirly Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Hi, would like to join this GB with an Italeri F16C to be finished with Daco Decals as this beauty:   The kit is already started, will submit images of progress for approval under the 25% rule. Thanks Fabio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filler Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I was asking yesterday about the difference between the F-16A and F-16A Plus kits in 1/48 from Hasegawa and Erik kindly pointed out those differences. I was asking because the A Plus kits seem to be very rare but the A in the Thunderbirds boxing does pop up now an again. Â After the Hasegawa kits, what is the best option for late 80's A versions as opereated in Europe by the various NATO air arms? Â Fabio, it's not for me to say but the 25% rule has been pushed in this GB already (by me inparticular) and with that scheme it would be crazy to get knocked back! Maybe the best F-16 scheme ever? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, PhantomBigStu said:  shipping kills it, looks like it will have to be a uk seller, just seen wonderlands have one fairly cheap, sure Ill be ordering sone more paint from them in the coming weeks so looks like I will order from them Cooling on the idea of doing a polish one now, just found out I will also need another nozzles, which will mean the total cost goes north of 40 notes....think Ill do F16N & B/D instead Edited January 11, 2017 by PhantomBigStu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Leijdens Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Filler said:  After the Hasegawa kits, what is the best option for late 80's A versions as opereated in Europe by the various NATO air arms?  I should say the Tamiya F-16C block 25/32. Tamiya has the best F-16 in 1/48, but you have to buy a aftermarket tail since the tailbase of a A model is thinner and does not have the antenna which can be found on C and D models. A larger base for the dragchute can also be needed.  The block 25 and 32 have the normal inlet so thats ok for an A too. The only other things maybe which you want to consider is the postion of the landing lights and the horizontal stabs.  The landing lights on the F-16 were originally attached to the main landing gear. Don't know were they are postioned on the Tamiya Block 25/32 but I think they are on the nosewheel door since I thinks that Tamiya offers an upgraded block 25/32 airframe...  If you want to make an early block 1/5/10 F-16 as it flew in the early 80s you should look for the small stabs. Block 15 and upgraded earlier blocks have the larger stabs.  And maybe there are couple of more small things you have to remove/add/adjust etc, such as iff antennas but I think it is a seperate part too in the Tamiya offering...  Nice airplane huh   Erik Edited January 11, 2017 by Knetterik Bad spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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