Stein Meum Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Hi! Got this very nice kit a couple of weeks ago. There are 2 options regarding the tailplanes. That's new to me. Early/late production? Stein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beard Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 As far as I know, they are early/ late production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Terry: You mention the Mk.XII wing. I've seen the Beaufighter bombers (no torpedo gear) referred to as Mk.XI. Yet these marks seem to have been subsumed into a more generic "Mk.X". Do you know whether this was some kind of policy, or just unawareness of more subtle variations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanroon Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 On the tail group, no one has mentioned the rudder airfoil shape. Bristol finss on the Beaufort and Beaufighter had a shape which shielded the upper leading edge of the rudder behind the fin structure for a good deal of its travel. High Planes Models have modelled it correctly, however every other manufacturer hasn't. I don't have pictures of the area at the moment, but shall endeavour to elaborate with illustrations soon. Grant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
occa Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 On the tail group, no one has mentioned the rudder airfoil shape. Bristol finss on the Beaufort and Beaufighter had a shape which shielded the upper leading edge of the rudder behind the fin structure for a good deal of its travel. High Planes Models have modelled it correctly, however every other manufacturer hasn't. I don't have pictures of the area at the moment, but shall endeavour to elaborate with illustrations soon. Grant I am aware of that, the upper leading edge of the rudder (the portion that is ahead of the hinge line) should be pointed vertically when seen from above ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
occa Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Check these photos Terry: http://onlytruecars.com/data_images/models/bristol-beaufighter/bristol-beaufighter-10.jpg http://ipmsauckland.hobbyvista.com/Gallery/Real/TF.X/beau26.jpg http://svsm.org/gallery/beaufighter/P1680587 http://svsm.org/gallery/beaufighter/P1680586 One can see how the whole leading edge of the upper portion of the rudder tapers towards the fin (Edit: Seen in plan view). It is narrower than the rear portion of the fin where these parts meet. The HP is the only kit I know of that has this indeed correct. Cheers, Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
occa Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Yes Terry, that was what I meant, it tapers in the horizontal plane towards its LE from the hinge line on. My English is often lacking the correct terms so I have difficulties to describe these matters. I wasn't aware that Airfix had it correct in the 3D renditions. You are right then, someone at Airfix must have thought it wasn't necessary to follow it, the kit hasn't even a slight hint of the tapering. Cheers, Martin PS I love your research and also your decals !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanroon Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Thanks Terry and occa for carrying the discussion. I have been otherwise occupied. The first two images catch the shape I was clumsily attempting to describe. Special Hobby Beauforts have a similar deficiency, which combined with the poor fuselage profile at the stations before the turret, but I digress. Grant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I've ordered the back issue of Airfix mag, but it hasn't arrived yet. I suspect that my next question may not be covered. I have the Hasegawa "bomber" version, both serials are after the introduction of the larger tailplanes. The kit provides sprue J: are these the larger tailplanes that they should be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) The kit CP119 provides markings for RD332 UB-C and NE207 UB-N, both in EDSG over Sky with full D-Day stripes. The elevator chord tapers from about 10mm at the root to 9mm at the horn. I don't now how accurate the markings are (but suspect that you do!). I bought the kit in order to nick the bombs for something else, with the intention of modelling NM.B (my daughter's initials) but I've yet to discover the correct serial, or even if this combination existed. PS your network54 link in post #13 doesn't work Edited October 12, 2015 by Graham Boak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Yes, the tailplanes are the earlier standard. It looks as though it would be a fairly easy conversion, if I wanted to go that way. Thanks for the help. The kit codes are Sky without any Yellow surround. The box art shows the short intakes, the colour scheme views the long. In the instructions, the detail assembly shows the short, the later assembly views the long. The instructions also tell you not to use the cowling sides, so perhaps it was a long shift when they did the sheet. I don't think that the long parts are even in the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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