roginoz Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I'd welcome advice about using self-adhesive photo etch. I've got the Eduard Cockpit set for my Xantong DB-3/Il-4 but I'm finding the etch not as adhesive as I anticipated it would be, or had been assured it was. Despite advice to keep fingers away from the sticky surface, I'm finding this just about impossible on account of the size of the parts, nevertheless limiting handling to an absolute minimum and using fine tweezers or craft knife where ever possible. I wonder if applying them to a matt-painted surface gives them sufficient "grip" or should I perhaps attach them to a gloss surface. As it is, I'm assisting their adherence with the traditional CA as a backstop. Any advice and guidance will be much appreciated. Cheers……Rog PS …….it's a challenging kit !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I put mine directly onto the bare plastic and they'll not shift for anything. A useful tool is a pick-up pencil; Its actually beeswax in the centre. Handy for picking up small flat parts and placing them. About £3.50 each through model shops or 99p for 5 through ladies 'nail-art' supplies. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Heath Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I have used Eduard self adhesive PE on matt paint and they worked fine. For the smaller parts it is a good idea to back up with CA though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roginoz Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 Thank you, gentlemen. It seems I'm doing it right then, but I like the idea of the "pickup" pencil, something to look out for when I want to get my nails done……... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngstROM Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 From experience with several Eduard sets, they are useless. I wish they would revert to un-sticky ones. The 'self-adhesive' bits will stick, but not in any serious way -thus requiring cyano or Gator's Grip anyway, so what's the point? The only difference I notice is that they find every tiny speck of dust/hair/fluff that I went to enormous pains to clean out of my work area five minutes previously! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremlin56 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I always use Gator Grip glue to make the bond permanent instead of temporary, ( which is what the join of the so called self adhesive is). Just my 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The original Kit Builder Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I've seldom had any problems with Eduard SA etch parts. If you find them insufficiently sticky, though, or if the contact area is too small for them to adhere well, run a brushful of Klear onto the edge and let capilliary action take it under the part. When it dries, it will give you a pretty firm attachment, without the risk of damage or loss of detail as you might find with super-glue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Me too As others have said I find they stick to everything while handling and don't settle very well on the parts... I'm using Gator Grip thin now - capillary action and cleans up with water. Black Knight thanks for the tip about 'nail art' supplies... looks like the same effect (volume sales) you get when buying from medical suppliers (scalpel blades etc, and now paper points). I guess the LMSs have to pay the rent? It took me a while to realise that the UK supplier of Badger Stynylrez primer (great stuff) 'Barwell Bodyworks' probably doesn't repair cars! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogTeeth Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 I've tried 3m double side VHB tape on pe to plastic and its rock solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMP2 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Another thumbs down for S.A. PE from me. For such tricky to fit parts that arent cheap I reckon glue or klear is the way to go. To be fair, I only ended up with self adhesive bits as I found what I wanted cheaper than the regular bits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayprit Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 I find that the smaller the part - the less stick............like everyone else, I tend to run something behind the part and hope capillary does the rest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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