Peter Lloyd Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 The Airfix is a big winner for the interior. The cartoon-decal consoles still annoy me on my RAAF model. Shoulda, coulda, didn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FZ6 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 This is going to be an interesting comparison as I haven't seen a Hasegawa Beaufighter before. I have the Frog one though and it's Dimensionally close but there are differences. Mainly on the engine cowls. Thanks for pointing out the AML Flat Tail Planes. I missed them on Hannnants and want to do either a MK.I or graft some Lancaster Nacelles on to make a MK.II for my next Beaufighter..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The wooksta V2.0 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 The way Airfix have moulded the lower wings/nacelles mean that some surgery is required but crucially, this does not affect the u/c placement, nor does it leave big holes underneath that would otherwise need filling. Spare couple of Lancaster outer engine nacelles and you're laughing, although the upper wing will need cutting and the upper cowling fairing reduced down. I've dug out my old Magna/Airfix mk II and it does look... somewhat below current standards. I just need to either find the u/c or rob it from the old Matchbox kit because I want to finish it as a Battle of Britain aircraft for a Whif SIG group build. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 useful little tip for Beaufighter variants http://z15.invisionfree.com/72nd_Aircraft/index.php?showtopic=7259 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted October 3, 2015 Author Share Posted October 3, 2015 Here we have both models ready for priming. Airfix Hasegawa (with the AML tailplanes fitted) When compared side by side, the Airfix model has a noticeably greater wingspan. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike romeo Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Wow! The Airfix wingspan is a lot bigger. I'm surprised at that. I am also building the Airfix kit and, although I don't have my Hasegawa Beau to compare (with Tom W on the Coastal Command SIG table, I think), I have been comparing the Airfix kit to my FROG Beau. The Airfix - although very similar in major dimensions to the FROG - looks noticeably more petite about the cockpit / nose and the cowlings / nacelles. I was surprised about that, too. Will post some pictures on my build thread comparing the two. regards, Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz23 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Enjoying this build, nice job so far! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Greggs Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Hmm this build is intresting, will watch this... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRK4m Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 What is the correct link ejection chute layout for the wing guns? They're linear according to Airfix and staggered in pairs according to Hasegawa! Cheers Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted September 4, 2016 Author Share Posted September 4, 2016 What is the correct link ejection chute layout for the wing guns? They're linear according to Airfix and staggered in pairs according to Hasegawa! The Airfix one is correct, but only for early Mk.Xs. Later aircraft should have two sets of ejection chutes, one for links and one for cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Wonder if Hasegawa were swayed by ejection chute layout for Australian Mk.XXIs? Only a guess: no idea what the Australian layout is, beyond that there are 4 0.5" vice 6 0.303" guns. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatalbert Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 So which one is more accurate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted September 4, 2016 Author Share Posted September 4, 2016 So which one is more accurate? Airfix! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRK4m Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 But when you cover these chutes with RP panels Hasegawa wins hands down... At least it's correct dimensionally at 1:72.3 and not 1:70 as the new (LIDAR-scanned!) Airfix beauty seems to be Cheers Michael 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Great comparison build, and lovely work on both. I must admit I'm getting a bit lost with some the posts now, which of the two is dimensionally the most correct to a Beaufigter? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatalbert Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 (edited) ^What 71chally said^ Edited September 4, 2016 by fatalbert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Admirable thread from long ago but can someone please provide the punchline? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 21 hours ago, Seahawk said: Admirable thread from long ago but can someone please provide the punchline? I really should complete these models. Maybe in the KUTA GB which starts shortly. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 What is the actual wingspan of the Beaufighter so I can work out what the scaled down span SHOULD be because NOW, I not sure which is ? Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertone139 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 On 9/4/2016 at 1:13 PM, KRK4m said: But when you cover these chutes with RP panels Hasegawa wins hands down... At least it's correct dimensionally at 1:72.3 and not 1:70 as the new (LIDAR-scanned!) Airfix beauty seems to be Cheers Michael Hi KRK4m, did you actually measure the kits? I tend to agree with you on principle as it would be unusual for Hasegawa to mess up dimensionally by that much in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellbinder99 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Be aware that the much mentioned "bulkhead" behind the pilot was actually a removable armour plate panel with two doors in it. Most in-service RAAF Beaus had it removed apparently for access reasons. It also makes me smile when I see a Beaufighter model builder replace the seat with a fixed bucket style seat, as the back of the pilots seat hinged flat so that he could reach up, grab the overhead trapeze bars and drop straight down through the escape hatch between the wing spars. Thus the seat was a very distinctive design with a pivot in the centre. If memory serves the seat back release happened at the same time the escape hatch swung down so that escape became one fluid motion after the internal release handle was pulled. I only know this because I did it a few times in Moorabbin Mk 21 back in the days it was still parked outdoors on sand so the subsequent fall 10 feet to the ground was a little softened! Ah the silly things we do when young! (and pre-nanny state OHS laws....) Cheers Tony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellbinder99 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 The overall wingspan of the Beaufighter is quoted as 17.65 meters from several sources online. That is 17650mm. The quoted wingspan of the Airfix Beaufighter off the instructions is 246mm. 17650 divided by 72 equals 245.1mm. Close enough for me if the Airfix quoted wingspan is correct. Hasegawa does not always equal ultimate accuracy. Their Spitfire fuselages are a case in point. Cheers Tony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stever219 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Spellbinder99 said: The overall wingspan of the Beaufighter is quoted as 17.65 meters from several sources online. That is 17650mm. The quoted wingspan of the Airfix Beaufighter off the instructions is 246mm. 17650 divided by 72 equals 245.1mm. Close enough for me if the Airfix quoted wingspan is correct. Hasegawa does not always equal ultimate accuracy. Their Spitfire fuselages are a case in point. Cheers Tony What's that in real money? Beaufighters were built in proper feet n inches, not this Mickey Mouse metric nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Alpha Yankee Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 30 minutes ago, stever219 said: What's that in real money? Beaufighters were built in proper feet n inches, not this Mickey Mouse metric nonsense. Perhaps just Google 'convert 17.65m to feet and inches' ? Answer is 57' 11" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellbinder99 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 A valid point stever219, but Airfix themselves quote the wingspan in mm on the kit instructions so converting the real wingspan to that in mm was just easier. Be aware I did the conversion in feet and inches and it still showed the Airfix kit as accurate and the Hasegawa wrong. Cheers Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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