whitestar12chris Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Hi all, just got my hands on AMT Klingon bird of prey model Generations release, This question may have been asked already, did a search but could not find anything relevant. So here Goes, The Scale is stated as 1/650 on the box, yet subsequent releases of bird of preys state the scale as 1/350, the in flight version, the later round2 mod with landing gear. Is this the same kit but with just a different scale plonked on it and updates, as digging the kit has the same overall dims as the supposed 1/350? If any one can shed some light it would be most welcome as i want to build and display it with the right scale (ok near enough 1/537 etc) enterprise. All the best Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Yes same kit. Only changed for the latest Round 2 release. I would say it is nearer to 1/350 scale. If you want one to go with your old 1/537, then you may have to resort to scratchbuilding. There was an old issue of Finescale Modeler which included plans in that scale, IIRC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu_davros Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Warp used to do a resin BOP that was allegedly in scale with the 537th E. It was quite a bit smaller than the AMT/ertl version. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew March Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Easily explained. There are two sizes of Birds-of-Prey: the smaller B'rel class ("Star Trek III", TNG: "Rascals") and the larger K'Vort class 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitestar12chris Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 Andrew sorry to say regarding the kit your wrong, see link http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/bop-size.htm If as you say the difference in quoted scales you get the following, memory alpha quotes the B'rel BoP @ 88m, at 1/650 this would come out 135mm long the kit is 251mm (10") the scale is wrong, yet at 1/350 251mm is bang on. with regards to the K'vort class memory alpa quotes a length of 678m, at 1/350 this would come out 1937mm long yet the kit in its various reincarnations is as stated. even trying to justify 1/650 this still makes it a whopping 1043mm. To make this work the scale would be 1/2700 which doesnt really fit in with any next gen models. All the best Chris, ps So in conclusion it would seem that AMT misquoted the scale to try to fit with their 1/537 scale enteprises, then corrected this on subsequent re-releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDragon Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 IIRC the confusion arose because the same studio model was used for the Kirk era B'rel and the Next Gen K'vort, the kit is a 1/350th B'rel and it was upgraded by Round 2 with landing gear and ramp for it's latest ST IV release. Paul Harrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew March Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Andrew sorry to say regarding the kit your wrong, see link http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/bop-size.htm If as you say the difference in quoted scales you get the following, memory alpha quotes the B'rel BoP @ 88m, at 1/650 this would come out 135mm long the kit is 251mm (10") the scale is wrong, yet at 1/350 251mm is bang on. with regards to the K'vort class memory alpa quotes a length of 678m, at 1/350 this would come out 1937mm long yet the kit in its various reincarnations is as stated. even trying to justify 1/650 this still makes it a whopping 1043mm. To make this work the scale would be 1/2700 which doesnt really fit in with any next gen models. All the best Chris, ps So in conclusion it would seem that AMT misquoted the scale to try to fit with their 1/537 scale enteprises, then corrected this on subsequent re-releases. Chris, I don't mean the kit. I meant the confusion over the scale of the BOP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitestar12chris Posted September 1, 2015 Author Share Posted September 1, 2015 Hi Andrew, the original question was about the kit and its re-incarnations, not about the screen versions. But nice bit of digging resulted. All the best Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FG2Si Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I built the AMT BoP as well as a much smaller resin one that is supposedly 1/537 scale. It's about half the size of of the AMT kit. I can get some pics if you're interested. Carl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitestar12chris Posted September 28, 2015 Author Share Posted September 28, 2015 Thanks Carl, just picked up the amt star trek adversary set with a klingon Bop and ferengi marauder, supposedly listed as 1/537 but actually about 1/1400. Be nice to see the resin one, why not post pics on ready for inspection? All the best Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FG2Si Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I'll try to get some pics for you later this week. The model is at my parents' house in storage. I found an unbuilt copy in my stash so I'll try to get a couple of that one too. Carl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FG2Si Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Here are some photos I took with my phone. I built it about 20 years ago and it was my first attempt at using a wash. As a result, it ended up quite a bit darker than I had expected. One nice thing is the wings are positionable. They're tight but can still be adusted from cruising to attack mode. Carl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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