imster Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) If anyone wants the photos and the full build write up for this please contact me via PM thanks! Next up on the bench! This one will take some time as I will be flying out to UK in a couple of weeks for a month. I bought the kit with the clear parts but I'm not sure whether I will use the clear parts or stick with standard parts. I have a habit of leaving off cowlings and engine covers as I am crazy about doing extra detailing on engines so thats why I originally bought this with the clear parts. Maybe if its possible I will do one half without the clear parts and the other half with. I am hoping that while I'm on holidays that Top Studio releases a chain set for this, so fingers crossed for that Edited April 13, 2018 by imster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caution Wake Turbulence Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Looking forward to this, just bought this kit myself (without the clear parts). Cheers, Andrew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookytooth Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Book me a seat Imster . Simon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLC1966 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Fast Freddies 500cc, whats not to like ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imster Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 So I complained on another forum about a lack of a working chain and low and behold one of the members their gave me the information that all the Top Studio chain sets are the same size so it was really a case of the rear sprocket of the Top Studio set being incorrect. So luckily Tamiya have used their brains and have included the plastic chain as usual and then they have also supplied just sprocket on the sprue too! so this one will have a working chain like Ihad on my Honda RC166 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloman1 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Great choice, I'm glad you plumed for a bike model. I'll watch with great interest. Colin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billydick Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Yay ... going to follow if I may BillyD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngstROM Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Fast Freddies 500cc, whats not to like ? ....................... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imster Posted August 16, 2015 Author Share Posted August 16, 2015 Thanks guys glad you're all here to support me and as usualy C&C is always welcomed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imster Posted August 23, 2015 Author Share Posted August 23, 2015 Ok so not a huge amount done, mainly because I have been preparing for my UK trip as I have a fair bit of work to do while I am there. There will not be another update for over a month as I will be back home on the 23rd of September. So here is the progress so far. I built the clutch and had to modify the kit clutch plate as the ones in the Top Studio set didnt match (which you will be able to see in the pics below). That said, Top Studio have done a great job with the quality and fit of all the clutch components. I have done a quick picture roll showing the various steps of the Top Studio clutch set. Packaging, here you can see in the top left of the packaging the 3 resin clutch covers that covers pretty much all the Honda clutches of that era except for the 84 NSR500 (which I only found out about after opening the packet), normally you would choose which of the 3 covers to use based on reference: Clutch basket with the different clutch spacers and plates: All together: The top plates which hold the clutch plates in position: One of the resin covers with the assembly. 2nd pic below shows the bolts that go on the surface of the clutch plate. 3rd pic shows how it would look with one set of bolts on: Comparison of the kit clutch cover and the Top Studio version (huge difference): Cutting the kit clutch plate to get it the right thickness to fit over the Top Studio clutch assembly: Modifications complete, I also smoothed the edges down of the kit part as it looked too blocky Completed with Alclad Steel and PE bolt heads: Next I began filling in the frame and rear swingarm with putty: And rear swingarm primered, modified for the PE chain adjusters, and ready for welds to be added: 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookytooth Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Wow Imster, some very nice work going on already. Simon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptorman0 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 awesome, really impressive stuff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloman1 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Very neat clutch kit Imster and the frame looks good too now that you've filled the back. looks like a good kit? Colin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imster Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 So I'm back from my holidays and I've managed to get over my jetlag finally!! On with the build! Not much to report yet, just lots of filling and sanding work taking place. I've almost completed the rear swingarm, just need the Michelin decal to go on which was not supplied in the kit so I ordered it from HLJ and hopefully the parcel will arrive by late next week. The petrol tank on this bike is located at the bottom of the frame, I decided to try my hand at making weld lines with putty, not bad for a first time but once the paint goes on it will be easier to see how good or bad the job was done, luckily alot of it will not be seen as the engine will be sitting above where all those weld lines are. If the welds look really bad I will just sand them off and leave it as it is. I also did a quick mockup to get an idea how the body panels sit on this one. I have seen some pics of how this bike is displayed in the Honda museum in Japan and so my aim is to possibly display it like that if its not too much hassle. Either way this bike will be displayed 'naked' as the main reason I chose to build this kit is because of the odd configuration of the exhausts and petrol tank. Anyways enjoy the pics lots more still to come! Next stages will be to paint the body parts and finish them off then I will move on to the engine and chassis. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imster Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 Very neat clutch kit Imster and the frame looks good too now that you've filled the back. looks like a good kit? Colin Yes Colin, its a great kit and up to the usual Tamiya standards. There are differences though between the kit and the reference pics I have. Basically on the Tamiya reference pics the cowlings are all exactly the same as the kit but on the majority of reference material I have found including pics of the bike in the Honda museum the tank and the tail cowling have air flow ducts. I can only assume that the Tamiya version is the original and the one with duct work is the modified version possibly after Honda had tested the bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookytooth Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Nice work Imster, and welcome back from your hols. Simon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draz87 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Hi Imster, I've also seen both versions of the body. I'm pretty sure MFH did this as their first bike kit and theirs was ducted but the Tamiya one isn't. I think you're right that they did both of them so technically they're both right Also, have a look at the old nsr500 chain sets that Top Studio make (TD23093 - nsr500, '92-'02) and (TD23143 - nsr500, '89) as they look pretty similar to the one in this kit, if not the same. The only difference that I can tell is the spacers used on either side of the chain ring. Just a thought so the actual chain doesn't chip away at the painted chain ring. Looking good so far mate, can't wait to see it finished Draz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imster Posted October 6, 2015 Author Share Posted October 6, 2015 Hi Imster, I've also seen both versions of the body. I'm pretty sure MFH did this as their first bike kit and theirs was ducted but the Tamiya one isn't. I think you're right that they did both of them so technically they're both right Also, have a look at the old nsr500 chain sets that Top Studio make (TD23093 - nsr500, '92-'02) and (TD23143 - nsr500, '89) as they look pretty similar to the one in this kit, if not the same. The only difference that I can tell is the spacers used on either side of the chain ring. Just a thought so the actual chain doesn't chip away at the painted chain ring. Looking good so far mate, can't wait to see it finished Draz Thanks Draz, yes the MFH version has the ducting work on them, I considered making the slots but I have enough on my plate with regards to engine detailing so I will keep the cowling as it is Thanks for the info on the chain, I plan to use the '89 chain set (TD23143) which is one of the ones you suggested. The spacers you mention are the ones that come with the TS chain sets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpnuts Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Great work as always, loving the detail 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie fixit Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 hi,try this : http://skylinezero17.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2011/12/1984-nsr500-af4.html if it works good ref pictures 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draz87 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Yeah they come with the TS sets. I've got both of them and from what I can tell the actual chain ring is the same for each one, I guess its just the width of the wheel compared to the swingarm that requires some of the spacers. You can probably just try them out one at a time and see what the best fit is. Draz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imster Posted October 8, 2015 Author Share Posted October 8, 2015 Great work as always, loving the detail Thanks KP hi,try this : http://skylinezero17.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2011/12/1984-nsr500-af4.html if it works good ref pictures Thanks very much Willie, the link works and the reference pics are fantastic! Yeah they come with the TS sets. I've got both of them and from what I can tell the actual chain ring is the same for each one, I guess its just the width of the wheel compared to the swingarm that requires some of the spacers. You can probably just try them out one at a time and see what the best fit is. Draz ahh yes the rear sprocket, Tamiya have actually supplied a plastic rear sprocket without the chain molded in! So I should hopefully be able to use the kit rear sprocket without having to worry about spacers etc, fingers crossed eh! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draz87 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 See how you go with it mate, I only brought it up because they supply a separate chain ring with the 2009 M1, when I built mine I used that instead of building a photo-etch one and it didn't fit the chain that well. It was a really tight fit and it started chipping off some of the paint from the chain ring. Although, to be fair to everyone concerned, I probably over-did it a bit with the primer/paint on the chain ring which gave it some 'volume' and it was my first chain build so it probably wasn't the greatest chain, actually, it definitely wasn't. Sorry if it sounded like a criticism, I just didn't want something like that to ruin what's looking like a fantastic model so far. Regards, Draz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imster Posted October 9, 2015 Author Share Posted October 9, 2015 Thanks for the advice Draz, I will see how it all goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imster Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 Its been a while since my last update sorry about that but its been a busy few weeks and my time building has been somewhat limited. I have been doing some work though and its all bits and bobs but eventually it will all come together and hopefully look alright To begin I received the optional decals which include the Michelin branding on the rear swingarm and the tyres. The swingarm is getting near completion just need to add the chain adjusters and a few tiny details and it will be complete The rearsets are pretty much ready for paint. I used the Hobby Design PE parts for this but I modified the PE parts so I can fit some of the old plastic parts back on as I noticed the Hobby Design version has the rear brake actuator going behind the cowling brace whereas the correct routing is in front of the cowling brace. I decided to use the plastic part and shave a little of it out so the brake actuator can pass by it without and problems. The actual actuator itself has been modified, the brown line will head upwards to the rear brake resevoir and the connection pointing downwards will connect to the braided hose at the bottom of the pic, that line will run to the brake caliper. Next up is the Top Studio chain, this was my first chain and I gotta say although very tedious and time consuming it was very good fun to build. After having built the Tamiya chain from the RC166 I gotta say the Top Studio chain is much more sturdier and in close up looks much more authentic. The cahin itself is not 100% complete as I will have to measure/determine the length that I must build the chain before completing it, once I have the back end complete then I will be able to measure it all up but by my calculations the chain needs to be 145mm in length. In the picture you can see the difference between the plastic chain and the TS version, also the front and rear sprockets are shown. I have looked at the rear sprocket and it seems that the TS version is slightly different than what is 100% authentic so I checked the plastic sprocket to see if it will carry the TS chain and it doesnt as the plastic is too thick and the teeth are too far apart. So I am left with a choice to either use the TS set which has a very slightly different rear sprocket (the correct version sprocket is flat, whereas the TS version has a little step in it) or use the Tamiya plastic set, and I chose to stick with the TS set as it looks so much better. I also started painting the cowlings. I will be painting the Red and White but not the blue as Tamiya supplies the decals for the blue parts which means less masking for me! Colour coat painted 1 coat of 2k clear applied (not polished yet) ready for the decals Thats it for now, my next update will be dealing with the brakes, lots of parts as you can see in the pic below and there are quite a few tiny detail bits as well Thanks for looking! As usual C&C welcome 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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