S & M Models 1/72 piston Provost CAD

[Colin @ Freightdog Models]

Hi, if you take a look at S & M Models new website, you can see the final CAD images for the 1/72 piston Provost due for release at Telford in November. If you scroll further down you can also see the masters for the 1/144 resin AW 681;

http://sandmmodels.co.uk/news/

Thanks,

Colin

[fatalbert]

That looks excellent, any idea of a price for the provost?.

[Team Aer Lingus]

Looking forward to this one a nice dayglo Irish one methinks

[Colin @ Freightdog Models]

That looks excellent, any idea of a price for the provost?.

I think Mel said around the £15 mark, maybe a bit more.

Colin

[Blogs On]

Be still my beating heart!,

And it has whizz bangs under its wings!!

I feel that an Omani theme may be in my future.

[The wooksta V2.0]

Could be very tempted with this one but would prefer to see some photos of yer actual sprues first.

[NAVY870]

Only one fuselage half?

Utterly outrageous!

[upnorth]

I guess I'd better hurry up and finish my Matchbox kit then.

Looks like Murphy's Law is rearing its head given that I've spend as good part of my meager modelling time the past six months or so doing research into armed variants of the Provost so I could modify the Matchbox kit to suit.

[Julien]

Like you I had better finish my MB kit, took me ages to find and then someone comes up with a new tool....typical!

Cheers by the way Colin, I will have a couple.

Julien

[AMB]

Can't understand why we need another 1/72 Provost as Czechmaster (CMR) released a lovely resin kit a couple of years ago. I have one in my stash with a lovely decal sheet for several RAF options and royal Malaysian Air Force

[The wooksta V2.0]

Because the CMR kit doesn't make any money for Mel Bromley? By your argument, should Airfix be releasing a Beaufighter and an He 111P when there are perfectly good kits from Hasegawa? The answer is of course no. Competition is good.

Not everyone wants to pay 30-odd notes for a resin kit, as good as it may be. This caters for that market. Some may also want to do several of the same type in different markings but without the eye watering costs of doing so with the CMR kit. Much as I like CMR, they're pricing themselves out of the market.

[Learstang]

Well, the Provost is nice - charming-looking little aeroplane. I read a little further on their website - a 1/72nd scale Viking, and could that Hastings also be in 1/72nd scale - now that would be NICE!

Regards,

Jason

[Dave Fleming]

Can't understand why we need another 1/72 Provost as Czechmaster (CMR) released a lovely resin kit a couple of years ago. I have one in my stash with a lovely decal sheet for several RAF options and royal Malaysian Air Force

Because resin is the devils material

[Mr T]

Because resin is the devils material

Quite right, given the choice between a £30+ resin kit and a £15 IM kit, I know which I am going to go for. i will build resin kits if that is going to be the only option for a particular model I want to build, but would prefer an injection moulded kit. I am having so much fun with the Magna kit of the Marathon as not all resin kits are CMR quality.

[viscount806x]

Can't understand why we need another 1/72 Provost as Czechmaster (CMR) released a lovely resin kit a couple of years ago. I have one in my stash with a lovely decal sheet for several RAF options and royal Malaysian Air Force

I also bought a MB kit after looking for ages. Plus, I bought the CMR kit. This is why an injection kit is coming along. It's called 'Sod's Law', and it always applies.....

Nige B

[upnorth]

As I understand it, the CMR kit has similar errors in the canopy framing to the Matchbox kit as well.

[viscount806x]

As I understand it, the CMR kit has similar errors in the canopy framing to the Matchbox kit as well.

That's true but easily corrected by using an Aeroclub vac replacement.

[upnorth]

That's true but easily corrected by using an Aeroclub vac replacement.

That's a fair point if we're talking about the Matchbox kit. Buying aftermarket correction for a kit that didn't cost too much in the first place isn't out of line.

It's a rather different kettle of fish with the CMR kit considering how much the kit itself can cost. Even in the Czech Republic, that kit costs close to 1000 Koruny; that's eye watering for a resin kit of such small size.

At prices like that, it borders on offensive to put the customer in the position of making up for your shortfalls.

[viscount806x]

That's a fair point if we're talking about the Matchbox kit. Buying aftermarket correction for a kit that didn't cost too much in the first place isn't out of line.

It's a rather different kettle of fish with the CMR kit considering how much the kit itself can cost. Even in the Czech Republic, that kit costs close to 1000 Koruny; that's eye watering for a resin kit of such small size.

At prices like that, it borders on offensive to put the customer in the position of making up for your shortfalls.

Fair comment, just pointing it out that's all.

[Julien]

Well if that price is correct I can buy two of these for the same price as the CMR kit, that is a RESULT

[Work In Progress]

I wasn't able to justify the expense of a CMR kit and I've always had bad experiences with resin when used for anything except relatively small detail parts. But I can justify £15 for an injection moulded Provost happily. I like the Matchbox one but they have been getting seriously pricey and hard to find recently.

[Truro Model Builder]

The last few I've seen at shows have been in the £12-£15 mark, so the new S&M kit should fit in superbly.

[upnorth]

The last few I've seen at shows have been in the £12-£15 mark, so the new S&M kit should fit in superbly.

Ouch! That is a bit dear for an old Matchbox kit, isn't it?

I got mine a couple of years ago online from an old kit specialist shop here in the Czech Republic for what was the equivalent of about six pounds fifty and felt I was splashing out a bit in relation to what I was buying.

[Work In Progress]

The price appreciation of the Matchbox kit was all S&M's faullt (In a good way). The kits were cheap for years because hardly anyone was interested in making models of obscure little-used peace-time primary trainers, especially out of kits with ropey old kit decals which had no aftermarket substitutes. Then S&M brought out their excellent Post-War Piston Trainers sheet which contains several colourful Provosts, and suddenly everyone was after a Matchbox Provost or two, or three. So of course prices shot up.

I think the interest sparked in Cold War trainers by the Airfix Vamp T.11 helped too.

[viscount806x]

The price appreciation of the Matchbox kit was all S&M's faullt (In a good way). The kits were cheap for years because hardly anyone was interested in making models of obscure little-used peace-time primary trainers, especially out of kits with ropey old kit decals which had no aftermarket substitutes. Then S&M brought out their excellent Post-War Piston Trainers sheet which contains several colourful Provosts, and suddenly everyone was after a Matchbox Provost or two, or three. So of course prices shot up.

I think the interest sparked in Cold War trainers by the Airfix Vamp T.11 helped too.

I always considered, maybe in a delusory way, that the Matchbox Provost decals were among their best efforts. Indeed, I used the dayglo bits to make a nice dayglo/silver JP3 back in the late '70s. Regarding aftermarket, Modeldecal did an alternative set for a yellow banded early FTS example in one of their sets which I still have put by. Generally, I agree, that MB decals were not great though but who's were then ? Frog were probably the best in kit decals.

Nige B