roymattblack Posted September 5, 2015 Author Share Posted September 5, 2015 You really should make a small run of these Roy. Certainly 1:1 owners and model collectors would seek them out. As with the Jag as well. I think an ad placed in the owners club's newsletters would bear fruit. I have contemplated such a route, but I really don't want to turn a hobby into a business. One of my big Jaguars is going to a new home shortly, but I won't be making a 'repeat' any time soon. I like to build what I want to build, with no kinds of expectations. If I was building for a customer, I'd be fretting in case my models weren't good enough. A very kind comment though. Roy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Well Roy, after seeing what you build, your 'customer' would have to be pretty picky not to like what they got Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codger Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 I have contemplated such a route, but I really don't want to turn a hobby into a business. One of my big Jaguars is going to a new home shortly, but I won't be making a 'repeat' any time soon. I like to build what I want to build, with no kinds of expectations. If I was building for a customer, I'd be fretting in case my models weren't good enough. A very kind comment though. Roy. Colin makes a good point. My idea was to make, say, 5 replicas of each model, exactly as you want them to be or the prototypes were. Not to custom build to a customer's demand. I agree wholeheartedly about building what you love; I just meant make several of them. Many viewers here would obviously kill to have your creation as is...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roymattblack Posted September 7, 2015 Author Share Posted September 7, 2015 Many thanks for the kind words. I'm still not convinced my models are good enough for selling though... A bit more on the Aston. After a lot of filling and sanding, hole trimming etc etc, I've given the main shell a couple of heavy primer coats. This will get a good wet sanding after a few days, and then another couple of primers. I've tracked down a very good match for the late 50's Aston Almond green they used for racing but it will never be perfect, as according to the Aston Martin archives and official historians, these race cars weren't actually painted. They mixed green pigment into a satin varnish and painted it over the aluminium body - hence the metallic look. If you look at any period pictures of these cars, you can see they are actually very dull - virtually matt. That isn't dust - it's how the cars were. I might give my body a coat of satin lacquer when its finished, but I'll wait and see. Roy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larchiefeng Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I really love the way this body is shaping up. The process used to form the body reminds me of a DVD I have where Fon Davis, a special effects master model builder, for movies uses his very large vacuum forming machine to make a space craft. It makes me think that since there aren't too many of those types of machines around it wouldn't surprise me if your "friend" wasn't also in special effects for the movie business. Great build of great car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy vd M. Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Simply beautiful Roy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roymattblack Posted September 7, 2015 Author Share Posted September 7, 2015 ...... it wouldn't surprise me if your "friend" wasn't also in special effects for the movie business. Great build of great car. A very astute guess. Suffice to say, it could be why he's very cagey about how he forms things....? Roy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larchiefeng Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 That's understandable but, it sure is nice to have a friend with access to the kind of equipment that can form 0.040" large plastic sheets in the size needed to produce 1/8 scale bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpnuts Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) "I'm still not convinced my models are good enough for selling though..." Your builds are a gazillion leagues better than mine and I just sold 2 ships, I'm not fit to lick your boots, and if my rubbish sells you would have no trouble what so ever. Edited September 7, 2015 by kpnuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roymattblack Posted September 7, 2015 Author Share Posted September 7, 2015 I genuinely appreciate the incredibly kind sentiments from all you guys but really, I'm just a plastic-basher like everyone else. OK, I'm a bit 'OCD' with stuff like engine details and so on, but all I do that is maybe a bit different from some, is work out ways to make bits I don't have. Most of the pieces on the engine for example are hacked-about bits, plastic scrap and whatever I can find that works. Once I've got something I like, I make a rubber mould from it (anyone can do it - it's simple) and cast pieces in resin as it's easy to work with. Also, if I muck anything up, I can make another. The C Type was my first foray into scratch building a whole 1/8 scale car. This one is still only my third attempt. It's all a learning curve - you should see the bits that have hit the bin, and the duff C and D Type body parts on a shelf in my garage! Roy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roymattblack Posted September 8, 2015 Author Share Posted September 8, 2015 Oh - prophetic words yesterday..... The first pictures show where I WAS up to with the primer coats. The next pictures show the body this morning. What did I learn? Simoniz acrylic primer is RUBBISH. I literally always use Halfords. I only bought the Simoniz can as it was from a motor factor nearer to me than Halfords. A lot of remedial work to do now. Roy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codger Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 We battle so many factors to create beautiful models - too bad poor materials add to the woes. I would leave no trace of that under the proper primer. May continue to haunt. The form does look slightly spectacular in all one color however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpfiend Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Sorry to hear of the primer woes. My mantra is stick to what you know. This is going to look fabulous in Almond green paint. Best Regards Keith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vontrips Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Sorry to hear about the paint Roy. It makes me even more paranoid about not using Halfords paint as I'm so reliant on them. Still not had the courage to use my Zero paints yet!!! Body shape looks fab though! No idea how your guy vacced in the sill returns?! ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roymattblack Posted September 8, 2015 Author Share Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) Body shape looks fab though! No idea how your guy vacced in the sill returns?! ;-) Many thanks. I must admit that if it wasn't for my friend, I'd still be making the bodies in fibre-glass, as I did with the C Type. Slow, messy, no room for error. At least this way, if I make a total blunder, he can make me more parts. The odd thing is, I've known him a long time and the vac forming idea was his. It hadn't even crossed my mind. HOW he does things is a mystery even to me. As an update, I've spent the best part of 5 hours today wet sanding the shell, painting (brush) a good layer of 'Klear', and it now has a first dust-coat of HALFORDS primer... Another few coats this evening and then overnight in the airing cupboard. (It's empty at present!) Roy. Edited September 8, 2015 by roymattblack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vontrips Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Strangely enough, I'm going to use grp on my Stutz project, just because I'm used to the production method and don't want to buy kilo's of casting rubber. Very smelly and messy though. If I don't lose faith I'll try metal bashing a body too. I'm sure you'll know this, but if you ever want a finer finish, lower build primer, Halfords white primer does the trick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roymattblack Posted September 9, 2015 Author Share Posted September 9, 2015 After a LOT of sanding back, some filling, more sanding, a few more primer coats - then more sanding... I've laid on the first coats of green. Guess what...? The crazing shows through at certain angles, even though it was GONE in the primer coats. I'll rub it down again and see how it goes. Grrrrrrrr. Roy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 I've had that happen before. Looks like you will need to strip back to the bare plastic and start again. Sometime Klear will form a barrier, but I've learnt not to trust it as a guaranteed cure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codger Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 I agree Roy. Gotta strip. Over here we use Castrol Super Clean, a purple degreaser which strips cleanly and rinses with water. A soak for a few hours always does it. If you sand too much you will change those gorgeous contours. When clean and rinsed, I would then airbrush a coat of Future which is an excellent barrier to stop ghosting through. Then the normal priming and then sand the primer to 600. Always works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roymattblack Posted September 9, 2015 Author Share Posted September 9, 2015 Many thanks you guys. The body is already 90% stripped........ I'll post some pics when it's done. Roy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Rotten luck with the primer Roy......Looking forward to seeing it restored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roymattblack Posted September 9, 2015 Author Share Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) Well.... Here we are, some 9 hours later, a good soaking in 'Mr Muscle', a wash, and LOTS of scraping/sanding. Almost back to bare plastic. It's 11.10, and I've had enough. Finish it tomorrow.... Roy. Edited September 9, 2015 by roymattblack 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codger Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 A real character-builder' this project... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy vd M. Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 I know a lot of mo... Let's restart that. MOST modellers I know would just forget about all the hard work they did, find the nearest window and throw the beautiful core of a model they built out of it. Or they'd say "ah it looks 95% okay, I'll remember this for my next build". Right... It's moments like these when patience demonstrates who the true modeler is, who will see this as a hill toward learning how to get even more patience. And with that expanded patience comes an even higher quality level. Patience is the most important skill a modeler can have. Respect for the restoration. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I'll second the above, nice save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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