Deadman Disciple Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Hi guys, A freind of mine is looking to flog me a USS Missouri kit (not sure on scale) as he's had it in his attic for 10 years. As ive never done a battleship before, I was wondering if my Halfords primer could stand as battleship grey, instead of buying a can of it. If not, anyone know of a spraycan battleship grey, preferably 300-400ml acrylic. Cheers in advance. Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfqweofekwpeweiop4 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 There's tons of different shades of Grey for battleships! Do you know what era the Missouri model represents? thanks Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadman Disciple Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 USS Missouri is WW2 onwards. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Missouri_(BB-63) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shar2 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 If it's been in the loft for 10 years I'd imagine it's the WWII version, therefore it will be either Measure 32/22D or as at Tokyo Bay, Navy Blue and Haze Grey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 (edited) http://www.shipcamouflage.com/ http://www.modelwarships.com/index1.html These two sites should sort you out as to the colour - although Mikemx is right about possible variety I think you are almost certainly looking for USN Haze Grey, which was a purple-blue colour up to 1945 and a neutral shade after that. Try the specialist section in Modelwarships dedicated to US BBs, or even the Iowa class if there is one. Probably is. If all else fails post a question there - though few will know what a Halfords is. Personally, because of the problem with all the decks being dark blue or dark grey, I wouldn't use a spray can. You can compare the colour yourself with those on the camouflage site. I suspect it isn't a long way from the postwar colour - look at photos of current US warships on line. but remember that the photos will often be influenced by the blue in the sky. One thing's for sure, you aren't going to be able to do Measure 32/22D with a spray can.... Edited June 5, 2015 by Graham Boak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfqweofekwpeweiop4 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 USS Missouri is WW2 onwards. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Missouri_(BB-63) I guessed that, as it commissioned in 1944 but as the others have mentioned it carried 2 different camouflage measures during WW2 whereas postwar, it was and still is more sedately painted. Also bear in mind that during WW2 all the decks were painted Deck Blue, whereas post war the steel decks are a Dark Grey and the Wooden Decks are a natural wood colour. You need to find out some more specific details about the kit like, make, scale and what era it depicts. There are major differences in it's WW2 configuration and how it looks now. thanks Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadman Disciple Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 You need to find out some more specific details about the kit like, make, scale and what era it depicts. There are major differences in it's WW2 configuration and how it looks now. Once I get my hands on the kit, i'll let you guys know. It was only a brief convo at work, as my mate said how he liked my Indycar build & the fact he used to build kits back in the day & the last kit he bought was the Missouri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) Halfords primer is a bit too dark for Haze Gray. I suspect you'll end up painting it in the Measure 22, which is Navy Blue up to the sheer line, and Haze Gray for the rest. I'm sorry I don't know the equivalent in Halfords spray paints, which was your original question! If you want to try Tamiya spray, you want AS Medium Sea Grey for the grey (their Haze Grey is too dark). Edited June 5, 2015 by Brokenedge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadman Disciple Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) I did a search on google "How to paint a battleship using a spray can" & this site popped up. http://www.army-paint.com/products/spraycans-400ml Just looked on amazon & one of its sellers sells the above & its £12.95 for 400ml, as that above site only sells to dealers. Could any of those colors do? As ive found the 150ml Tamiya cans in the past quite expensive. Edited June 5, 2015 by Deadman Disciple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jockster Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I'd say it's up to you, do you want it to be the exact shade of grey? If you build it and post it, none of the rest of us are going to moan at you as long as you're happy with it. Do you use an airbrush too? Spraying a mist coat of white will lighten it a touch. If you're building it for your mate, would he notice or care about the shade or will he just be happy that it's finally getting built! As it's your first battleship, don't get too bogged down with the shade and just enjoy building it, if you liked building it then go all out on your next one! Simples! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Quite right. Learning anything new never did anybody any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) I did a search on google "How to paint a battleship using a spray can" & this site popped up. http://www.army-paint.com/products/spraycans-400ml Just looked on amazon & one of its sellers sells the above & its £12.95 for 400ml, as that above site only sells to dealers. Could any of those colors do? As ive found the 150ml Tamiya cans in the past quite expensive. Looks like they're all German colours, which makes their "Battleship Grey" probably Dunkelgrau 51, much too blue for the USN equivalent.You want a light grey with a very slight blue hue, try the ship camouflage site that Graham linked above, and print off the colour chip chart, take it to Halfords and see what you can match to 5-H Haze Gray and 5-N Navy Blue. Edited June 5, 2015 by Brokenedge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentG Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 These are photos of the USS Missouri I took in 1975. After returning from Viet Nam my next duty station was the Puget Sound Naval Shipyard in Bremerton, Washington. She was mothballed at the time. This was after Korea but before her refurbishment in the 80's. Bear in mind these are scans of old color pics. I do remember her as being a light neutral gray color. It's hard to tell but the decks are their natural teak color bleached by the sun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadman Disciple Posted June 6, 2015 Author Share Posted June 6, 2015 (edited) I'd say it's up to you, do you want it to be the exact shade of grey? If you build it and post it, none of the rest of us are going to moan at you as long as you're happy with it. Do you use an airbrush too? Spraying a mist coat of white will lighten it a touch. If you're building it for your mate, would he notice or care about the shade or will he just be happy that it's finally getting built! As it's your first battleship, don't get too bogged down with the shade and just enjoy building it, if you liked building it then go all out on your next one! Simples! I do like to get my models as close to the original as I can & I always do my research, if it comes to using new paint, I will use that paint as long as it aint too expensive.I model on a budget, as my wife doesnt like the fact I can spend a lot on paint & aftermarket parts etc...etc.... I dont have an airbrush, but its something id like to invest in (if I had the money) I aint seen my mate in a couple of days (as he works upstairs in the office & im in the warehouse) so its when he has the time to find it out of the attic & lets me know what he wants to do. Edited June 6, 2015 by Deadman Disciple 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jockster Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Fair enough my friend, then I cannot add to what the lads have already posted, I use enamels so the acrylic side is a 'grey' area for me. Humbrol and Colourcoats for me! Hope you enjoy building her! Ship modeling can be addictive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadman Disciple Posted June 6, 2015 Author Share Posted June 6, 2015 (edited) I use enamels so the acrylic side is a 'grey' area for me. Humbrol and Colourcoats for me!Funny you should mention Humbrol, as I do use their paint.On my MK.VII Viper, I used 128 US compass grey. Looks like ill be painting by hand, I just thought doing it by spray can would be better as this could be a large model. I have found similar colours in Humbrol & Vallejo in tinlets/pots aswell. Cheers guys for all your help. Edited June 6, 2015 by Deadman Disciple 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jockster Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 That's a lovely looking Viper DD, battleships and spaceships are my thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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