gunpowder17 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 (edited) I thought it was time for another Charity build for Little Havens in Memory of my little Daughter Daisy. The kit has been kindly donated by AngstROM. It will be built as Gibsons Aircraft and Auctioned off on eBay. I have a page open for any donations too. No amount is too small! Kit has arrived so i will be starting this one this evening. Now i already have a question for the Lancaster Experts. I believe i am correct in thinking that these were brand new build Lancasters and were converted on the production line. Would the cockpits therefore be completely black or the usual black and interior green? http://www.justgiving.com/Andrew-Thorne2/ Edited April 24, 2015 by gunpowder17 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunpowder17 Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 Tonights small glueing session! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunpowder17 Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 Some progress. I thought i would take some photos of the interior before it all disappears inside forever! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookytooth Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Nice work Andrew, we hope all goes smoothly. Simon and Rose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbudde Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Looks good. No I think the interior was not modified for that mission. Why should they for a low level raid. You hear them clearly, before you can see them at all. And above the lake they switched on their full lights to get the exact level to drop the upkeep mine. And as I was born near the lake Möhne, I would like to post a link to another built one here: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234974511-birthday-lancaster-airfix-172-dambusters-b-iii-special/page-2 At least, I think the colour of the mine was green and not black, but I don't know. You see both colors on models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsher Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Looks great, very neat. Love Lancasters so very interested to see your build unfold. Beautiful photo of your beautiful daughter Daisy. Good luck with the build and the auction. Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunpowder17 Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 Thanks Guys. I think i have Dambuster fever , im building a Tamiya 1/48 one along side this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbudde Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Oh, not for that: Here is another link to get more fever: http://englisheyeimages.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/heres-great-video-clip-taken-from-raf.html For the mine colour: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_TGS61dlat8U/S639whd2j6I/AAAAAAAACf0/dHfFGC2hr90/s1600/Upkeep+bomb.jpg And a good help to get it as good as possible for a charity auction:http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234931795-dambuster-aj-z-zebra-revell-172-finished-at-last/page-2 P.S.: I would highlight the interior with a decent drybrushing, although you won't see much of it anyway. Cheers and good luck. Will following this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunpowder17 Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) Lovelly , thanks for the links. Its progressing well , the fuselage is now joined. I will post more photos later. Edited April 30, 2015 by gunpowder17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixup_1 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Oh yes another WIP Lancaster. Just love this aircraft, will be keeping an eye on this one! You right, its a shame any hard work on interior is hidden forever once it comes together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homerlovesbeer Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Following with much interest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick32 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Looking good, there's nothing like seeing a Lancaster come together! Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunpowder17 Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 Strange mixed feelings tonight I am happy because im making good progress , but It suddenly hit me why I am doing this. I was looking at some photos of my little Daisy and although they made me smile , its so devastating knowing she is no longer here to see the model. Anyway heres some photos so far With my 1/48 Dambuster wings! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Will you be using the much better upgraded Dam from Amera or the weak n feeble one supplied in the set ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincenzo64 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Hello. the Dambuster had two headlights positioned under the fuselage, many modelers omit this detail, you found information about these lights that were used to determine the right height, the water level of the dam, to release the mine .... Good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunpowder17 Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share Posted May 1, 2015 Yes this kit actually includes the lights. I will be copying them for my 1/48 version. I thought the kit Mine was OK Dave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbudde Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 (edited) Some more links: http://www.maquetland.com/article-1145-avro-lancaster-dambuster http://images.gizzmoheaven.com/ProductImages/20130228102441/00/07/100000000000789/imageGallery_6.jpg http://www.nicolastrudgian.com/UserFiles/mccarthynews.jpg http://www.bruce-mackay.com/siteimages/hires/Dambusters_The_Third_Wave.jpg https://www.byrnesonline.ie/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/dambuster2.jpg http://aviationfineart.co.uk/art/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/Dambuster_Heroes_51ade8d1370c3.jpg http://www.lancaster-archive.com/pic_upkeep1.jpg https://nationalpostcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/fo0518_dambusters_c_rj2000.jpg http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/05/17/a-real-suicide-run-70-years-after-the-dambusters-raid-an-airman-tells-remarkable-tale/ http://www.rafbf.org/files/upkeep-diagram-dambusters-447.jpg https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/51/12/64/5112647f400ca24fad22a9b518e98d78.jpg http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234910300-dambusters-lancaster-aldis-lamps/ And that's for the moment. O forgot the complex bombsight, which was difficult to handle and so failure-prone due to its radiocontrolled glitches. Ha. Don't miss it in its massive appearance http://dambustersblog.com/2008/05/14/the-bombsight-used-to-break-the-mohne-dam/ http://military.wikia.com/wiki/Bouncing_bomb http://www.thedambusters.org.uk/upkeep.html Cheers P.S.: This is a site like very much for walkarounds : http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/luc_colin/lancaster_mk3_walk_1.htm http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/dave_kitchel/lancaster/ http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/mark_hayward/lancaster_x/ Edited May 1, 2015 by bbudde 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Wow, what a list of references, thanks bbudde! Sorry to highjack Andrew but I think it's relevant... All the references seem to confirm that, like the kit, the 'Upkeep' bomb was cylindrical apart from this one? Any background on that? Also, had the pleasure of attending a talk by Johnny Johnson and he stated that 'T Tommy' was a reserve aircraft and did not have the altitude lamps fitted (so the Airfix kit of Tommy is right). They also had a different bombing technique for the Sorpe - no spinning and a bomb run parallel to the dam. Thanks, still watching with interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbudde Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 (edited) hello cedB. I think this was the prototype for dam charges test on the Nant-Y grow tests. Perhaps its the same type as for the mosquito twin highball construction. But not sure 100%. I will look at my Book by Helmuth Euler " Als Deutschlands Dämme brachen." to confirm it a bit more. As you can see in the picture with he german soldiers of a captured mine, that the finally used ones were cylindrical and not half round. Cheers http://www.linkza.net/daily/news/article-2325460/Dambusters-Back-began-lone-Lancaster-marks-70-years-audacious-Dambusters-raid.html http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircraft/Avro-Lancaster/IMAGES/Lancaster-Dambuster-Bomb.jpg http://www.rafbf.org/76-3290/heroes-with-hammers.html http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/schematics/52225d1299776682t-british-lancaster-dambuster-rack-dam-busters.jpg http://blog.sciencemuseum.org.uk/insight/2013/05/19/the-dambusters-barnes-wallis-and-the-bouncing-bomb/ http://www.raf.mod.uk/history/dambustersgallery.cfm?start=1&viewmedia=6#pageContent http://www.lancaster-archive.com/upkeep_1.jpg http://www.lancaster-archive.com/bc_damsraid6.htm http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2324851/Dambusters-How-RAF-crew-room-listed-names-133-airmen--unaware-training-run-assignment-really-famous-raid.html http://www.lancaster-archive.com/bc_damsraid3.htm Edit: Helmuth Euler lives in Werl and is a contempory and eye witness: http://www.rafbf.org/865-884/the-dams-raid-through-the-lens-by-helmuth-euler.html http://img.zvab.com/member/20353w/43589407.jpg https://www.weitze.net/onload/shop/gastfotos/08/158708/158708.jpg http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&page=1&rh=n%3A283155%2Cp_27%3AHelmuth%20Euler And If you can get this, then get it for that, although its in german language. This is the edition of that book of mine from 1981. http://www.booklooker.de/B%C3%BCcher/Helmut-Euler+Als-Deutschlands-D%E4mme-brachen/id/A01DyPEE01ZZ4?zid=0e3f1ff61b64411d6ada9fcc12792256 Edited May 5, 2015 by bbudde 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutley Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Cedb, the film and the original test mines were part cylindrical Looks good. No I think the interior was not modified for that mission. Why should they for a low level raid. You hear them clearly, before you can see them at all. And above the lake they switched on their full lights to get the exact level to drop the upkeep mine. And as I was born near the lake Möhne, I would like to post a link to another built one here: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234974511-birthday-lancaster-airfix-172-dambusters-b-iii-special/page-2 At least, I think the colour of the mine was green and not black, but I don't know. You see both colors on models Correct, the interior was not modified as the Lancasters were straight from the factory with delivery airmiles. The mine at Duxford is black, I would imagine the casing wouldn't be painted unless to prevent any glare off the basic metal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyby Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 I've saved this thread in to favourites as I'll be attempting this model some time next month, going to try and find Guy Gibsons Decals on the night of the attack now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrywilliams Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Is there an update to the build at all? harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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