ArmouredSprue Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Hi all! Let's start a new project. This time will be the well known Curtiss fighter and backbone of the American Air Force in the beginning of World War Two, the P-40E. There is an excellent article about those first P-40E's received by the Brazilian Air Force (FAB) in August 1942 written by Árpád Árbocz entitled: Cores e Camuflagens dos P-40E no Brasil (Colours and Camouflage for the P-40E in Brazil) here - (Sorry! Portuguese text only). Basically, the first 6 aircraft to arrive in Brazil were part of Kittyhawk's MKIa lot originally destined to RAF. Therefore they had been delivered in the Temperate Land Scheme. P-40E (US serial number: 41-36132) FAB 01 Profile representing the photo above Besides that above mentioned link, I will also relay on my most recently acquired book According to Árpád Árbocz author of the above mentioned article, the most probable colour scheme translated to the Federal Standard representation would be: That will be my guideline. The Kit I'll be using the Academy kit in 1/72 for this project. The box art Sprue 1 Sprue 2 Sprue 3 Clear parts Instructions 1 Instructions 2 Instructions 3 Instructions 4 Instructions 5 Instructions 6 Instructions 7 Instructions 8 Instructions addendum with RAAF scheme Decal sheet For this kit I'll be using this photoetched parts. I'm not totally green to the use of PE's but I'm not an expert either. So I can foresee some dramas along the away! The PE set PE instruction 1 PE instruction 2 I also have this amazing FCM decal sheet that I was saving for a long time, waiting to the right opportunity to use it. Finally the time has come for me to start my P-40 series in Brazilian markings. Decal instructions FCM decal (unfortunately discontinued) Let's go! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Looks like a fun project. Nice scheme too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeR Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 The Academy kit's quite nice, but it's a pity they stuffed up the canopy profile. When I built mine I did a bit of judicious sanding on both the canopy and the spine to make it look better. Mike. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winenut Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Well this looks like a fun project! Awesome stuff....are you addicted to P40's?? First point of interest Medium Green....???....FS 34092 In the Testors Model Master range FS34092 is something like Euro Dark Green. The actual US Medium Green in that range is FS34102. I had this question on my P-47...before.....well.....melting it with my modelling lamp! I am interested what you choose but I am sure the build will be great whatever you decide! Chocks away! Cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamden Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Another unusual scheme I will follow along as you bring this to life! Roger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jean Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 First time that I see a WW2 airplane to be built in Brazilian colours. Exotic to say the least! You are loaded for bear with all these aftermarkets! It's going to be fun to watch. Good luck. JR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmouredSprue Posted March 2, 2015 Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 Looks like a fun project. Nice scheme too Thanks mate! Stay tuned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmouredSprue Posted March 2, 2015 Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 The Academy kit's quite nice, but it's a pity they stuffed up the canopy profile. When I built mine I did a bit of judicious sanding on both the canopy and the spine to make it look better. Mike. Thanks for the tip mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmouredSprue Posted March 2, 2015 Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 Well this looks like a fun project! Awesome stuff....are you addicted to P40's?? First point of interest Medium Green....???....FS 34092 In the Testors Model Master range FS34092 is something like Euro Dark Green. The actual US Medium Green in that range is FS34102. I had this question on my P-47...before.....well.....melting it with my modelling lamp! I am interested what you choose but I am sure the build will be great whatever you decide! Chocks away! Cheers Thanks Bruce First: I'm not addicted to P-40 just it happened that I got this book, had the decals and the kit was laying aound my stash begin for me to build it! That's all! Second: The FS colours are just code numbers and it doesn't have a " name" attached to it. the model paint makers are responsible for introducing the names, so I' m only interested in the number provided. Also it is just a starting point since the original paint was suppose to be DuPont to match RAF specifications. Add to that these planes were used in the Northeast of Brazil with a weather close to North Queensland, so expect heavily weathered and faded. See you Tuesday at SAPMA meeting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmouredSprue Posted March 2, 2015 Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 Another unusual scheme I will follow along as you bring this to life! Roger Thanks for following Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmouredSprue Posted March 2, 2015 Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 First time that I see a WW2 airplane to be built in Brazilian colours. Exotic to say the least! You are loaded for bear with all these aftermarkets! It's going to be fun to watch. Good luck. JR So you would be surprised to know that Brazil fought in Italy along the Allies and had a Squadron attached to the 356th Air Force. Here a model I did last year: http://armouredsprue.blogspot.com.au/2014/06/p47dc1-fab-wwii-academy-172.html Stay tuned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyverns4 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Hello ArmouredSprue, Welcome to the group build! A nice choice of markings too. I built this one when it first came out for my son's ceiling. IIRC some of the numbers for the undercarriage components might have been transposed, (or it could have been me... ). If I can as one question, where did you get the book from, (Português não é problema), as I think I would rather like that one, (what with several 1/48 P-40's to build in FAB markings... Christian the Married and exiled to africa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Tackling the same kit in the P-40 Single Type Group Build atm. Why don´t you join us? http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/forum/494-curtiss-p-40-single-type-group-build/ V-P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmouredSprue Posted March 3, 2015 Author Share Posted March 3, 2015 Hello ArmouredSprue, Welcome to the group build! A nice choice of markings too. I built this one when it first came out for my son's ceiling. IIRC some of the numbers for the undercarriage components might have been transposed, (or it could have been me... ). If I can as one question, where did you get the book from, (Português não é problema), as I think I would rather like that one, (what with several 1/48 P-40's to build in FAB markings... Christian the Married and exiled to africa Hello Christian Here is the link to where I found about this book: http://webkits.hoop.la/topic/livro-p-40-no-brasil?reply=425483767716772621#425483767716772621 If yo do speak Portuguese, that website is one of the best in that language ( WEBKITS ) with a very active forum. The book is worth every penny I have spent on it, highly recommended if you are into Brazilian or South America air forces. Cheers PS: Você é brasileiro ou português morando na África? Tackling the same kit in the P-40 Single Type Group Build atm. Why don´t you join us? http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/forum/494-curtiss-p-40-single-type-group-build/ V-P Id love to join this GB, Ive posted there requesting for some of the administrators to move my topic for the GB one, lets see what happens! Cheers and thanks for the heads up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmouredSprue Posted March 3, 2015 Author Share Posted March 3, 2015 I have started by adding the cockpit photoetcheds (PE). I was a little time consuming but I have managed to finish it without any incident. I used cianocrilate to glue it in place. That's it for while! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Electric Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Hi... This looks a great project - I've never built the Academy P-40, so am interested in seeing how it comes out. One word of warning though - I built a P-40K in 1/72 a couple of years ago and also bought FCM decals, but sorry to say had a hell of a time with them, and ended up starting from scratch. Basically, once off the sheet, they were discoloured in places, very thick, coated in excess carrier film, wouldn't settle down - despite all the known tricks, and once actually on the model were very hard to move. There's even a thread on BM about it somewhere, as I wondered if I had a rogue batch - I ended up returning them to Hannants in the end. I'd definitely try a test decal on something first because I'd hate to see a build like this have a problem at the final hurdle. Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyverns4 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 (edited) Hello Christian Here is the link to where I found about this book: http://webkits.hoop.la/topic/livro-p-40-no-brasil?reply=425483767716772621#425483767716772621 If yo do speak Portuguese, that website is one of the best in that language ( WEBKITS ) with a very active forum. The book is worth every penny I have spent on it, highly recommended if you are into Brazilian or South America air forces. Cheers PS: Você é brasileiro ou português morando na África? Id love to join this GB, Ive posted there requesting for some of the administrators to move my topic for the GB one, lets see what happens! Cheers and thanks for the heads up! Não, britânico, mas nós vivemos em Porto por vários anos antes que sai para o exílio , (Quênia ). Obrigado pelos detalhes do livro , eu estarei pedindo um pouco ! Olhando bem ! Christian the Married and exiled to africa Edited March 3, 2015 by wyverns4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Regarding FCM decals, aren't they unconventional in some way? I found them thick when I used them, with excessive carrier film but later read that applying them was a two stage process. Apparently you're meant to peel the top layer off. Quite how you achieve this is unclear as no instructions were included. Anyone have any ideas? John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Millman Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Regarding FCM decals, aren't they unconventional in some way? I found them thick when I used them, with excessive carrier film but later read that applying them was a two stage process. Apparently you're meant to peel the top layer off. Quite how you achieve this is unclear as no instructions were included. Anyone have any ideas? John. Hi John That sounds like the Japanese MYK decals. I have no idea if FCM are the same but here is a link to MYK's English instruction page :- http://www.myk-design.com/tank/e_asudeca.html Regards Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Thanks Nick, I'll try that. John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazdot Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Looks good I like the work you've put in to the cockpit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookenbacher Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I'm glad the mods were able to move this thread to the Group Build section Paulo. I'm very interested in seeing a Brazilian P-40! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmouredSprue Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 Hi... This looks a great project - I've never built the Academy P-40, so am interested in seeing how it comes out. One word of warning though - I built a P-40K in 1/72 a couple of years ago and also bought FCM decals, but sorry to say had a hell of a time with them, and ended up starting from scratch. Basically, once off the sheet, they were discoloured in places, very thick, coated in excess carrier film, wouldn't settle down - despite all the known tricks, and once actually on the model were very hard to move. There's even a thread on BM about it somewhere, as I wondered if I had a rogue batch - I ended up returning them to Hannants in the end. I'd definitely try a test decal on something first because I'd hate to see a build like this have a problem at the final hurdle. Chris Regarding FCM decals, aren't they unconventional in some way? I found them thick when I used them, with excessive carrier film but later read that applying them was a two stage process. Apparently you're meant to peel the top layer off. Quite how you achieve this is unclear as no instructions were included. Anyone have any ideas? John. Hi John That sounds like the Japanese MYK decals. I have no idea if FCM are the same but here is a link to MYK's English instruction page :- http://www.myk-design.com/tank/e_asudeca.html Regards Nick Thanks Nick, I'll try that. John. Hi guys! In regards to FCM decals, they had a line of decals long time ago so called Elite Series, it presented with a very thick coat on top of the decal. The idea was to place the decal, wait for it to dry (overnight) and then remove the overcoat leaving only the printed in the model. Off course it didnt work as planned and it was very hard to remove it afterwards. Nowadays they dont do it anymore and the decals are now printed at MicroScale (so with a high quality). The new batches are highly recommended! You should give then a new try! Meanwhile more work with the PE. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winenut Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Found you on the Group Build! LOL Do they give an award at the end? If they do I'm backing you in! Great start. Some nice bits and pieces added in. Good luck with this one. I need a rest after cooking the P-47 so I'll just sit back and go along for the ride Cheers! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmouredSprue Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 Found you on the Group Build! LOL Do they give an award at the end? If they do I'm backing you in! Great start. Some nice bits and pieces added in. Good luck with this one. I need a rest after cooking the P-47 so I'll just sit back and go along for the ride Cheers! This Ill try to finish in one month! Thats the time left for the GB Im in in a Brazilian forum. Lets see! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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