overscan Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 (edited) Later this year (hopefully around summer) Blue Envoy Press will be publishing a book on the Hawker P.1121, written by Barrie Hygate and me. Based on many years of research by both authors, this book tells the story of its birth from first drawing to cancellation and the historical context in which it was created. It will feature lots of previously unpublished manufacturer drawings, many photos of the P.1121 prototype, mock-ups and models, cutaway drawings, computer-generated and traditional artwork and more. Barrie Hygate has drawn many pages of new scale drawings for the book. Hopefully this could be of interest to some Britmodellers members. Paul Martell-Mead (www.secretprojects.co.uk) Edited February 7, 2015 by overscan 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlamgat9 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Please reserve me a copy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnT Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Both those designs look the part. Mid 1950's design that looks like it could do the business today. Very F-16 style with the under chin intake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Mid 1950's design that looks like it could do the business today. Very F-16 style with the under chin intake. brief bit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_P.1121 A chapter in British Experimental Jet Aircraft as well, by Barry Hygate. http://www.amazon.co.uk/372/dp/1854860100 as an aside Paul, I read somewhere online that Barry Hygate had some improved drawings for some of the planes in the above book. Since it's long out of print, are there plans to do a new version? also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_P.1103 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamS Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 GUARANTEED at least one sale I've read a number of Barrie's other books and they are excellent. Look forward to this one too. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2wheels Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 From an old RAF yearbook. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzn20 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 2wheels I remember that RAF year book in the crew room,we were sat there talking about what we could have been working on and what the big wheels were thinking of. Although one of our Chiefs had been on a TSR 2 course before it was scrapped and was glad he never had to work on a real one. That artist is the bees knees,I used to love his AIR Enthusiast monthly magazine covers and Air Tattoo posters. So much movement. Thanks for that pic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overscan Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 Indeed, that is one of my favourite images. Here's a small snippets of two of Barrie's drawings And a test 3D render of P.1103 from a few years ago 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feifeitim Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Was lucky enough to see the mortal remains of the P1121 in a hangar on the far side of Cosford airfield in 2000. A humbling experience to be so close to what would have been such an awesome aircraft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 If those drawing sections are anything to go by this is going to be an interesting publication! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garry Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 I to remember that cover first time I saw the TSR 2 and the Hawkers, and still in LOVE ! I will be getting this book and will read it time again like that RAF Yearbook in the times of the mist in long hot summers of long ago and NO council tax. Also to let people know Nimrods Genesis by Chris Gibson is out http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1902109473/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=VCI20WM28TB1&coliid=I2VKXVA5CE7WF4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overscan Posted September 1, 2015 Author Share Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) Working hard to finish this for 2 November release date. 64 pages, £11.99. Contents page Edited September 1, 2015 by overscan 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlamgat9 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 This i want! Where will it be on sale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overscan Posted September 1, 2015 Author Share Posted September 1, 2015 Direct from Blue Envoy, or various quality bookshops, to be announced later. We're hoping to have a batch at Scale Modelworld 2015 at Telford for me to sign, and I'm coming over from New Zealand so I really need to make the deadline! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlamgat9 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Can you provide contact details for Blue Envoy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Direct from Blue Envoy, or various quality bookshops, to be announced later. We're hoping to have a batch at Scale Modelworld 2015 at Telford for me to sign, and I'm coming over from New Zealand so I really need to make the deadline! I am REALLY EXCITED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overscan Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share Posted September 2, 2015 Currently - [email protected] I suggest waiting until release date as we are looking into online ordering. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 The book looks very promising, although I do hope that it takes a somewhat balanced look at the real options for the Air Staff rather than just "It was great and we wuz robbed" line. You can see why the RAF didn't need a close equivalent to the F-105. There was a brief campaign to save it using the name Hurricane to try to drum up support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-32 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 So much want for this book! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Foster60 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 For my money it would have been a much better prospect than the TSR2. They would have been more useful to the RAF and for Export. This aircraft was much more of a missed opertunity. Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overscan Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share Posted September 2, 2015 The book looks very promising, although I do hope that it takes a somewhat balanced look at the real options for the Air Staff rather than just "It was great and we wuz robbed" line. You can see why the RAF didn't need a close equivalent to the F-105. There was a brief campaign to save it using the name Hurricane to try to drum up support. It certainly doesn't conclude "it was great and we wuz robbed". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) I'm liking the sound of this book a lot. Any chance it will be available in NZ without the hassles of ordering from the UK? The dollar is making that a bit painful just now Steve. Edited September 2, 2015 by stevehnz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Direct from Blue Envoy, or various quality bookshops, to be announced later. We're hoping to have a batch at Scale Modelworld 2015 at Telford for me to sign, and I'm coming over from New Zealand so I really need to make the deadline! I'm liking the sound of this book a lot. Any chance it will be available in NZ without the hassles of ordering from the UK? The dollar is making that a bit painful just now Steve. HI Steve it seems overscan is based in Auckland, so you maybe able to order direct, or some NZ bookseller will have copies.. I'm guessing you missed the post i quote above... HTH T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Thanks Troy, yes I did, hopefully overscan might pick up on this. I've had a soft spot for this aeroplane since seeing it in a Look & Learn magazine +/- 50 years ago. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Ranger Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Looks intriguing. Why is it that the projects that never made it off the drawing board seem to make more interesting modeling subjects than those that went into production? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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