roymattblack Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 (edited) Being a bit of a masochist, this one is now 'on the bench'. Some of you might remember I bought this model as a box of broken bits - literally. It really is a total wreck and the first task will be to completely disassemble the entire thing. Next will be cleaning of all the (useable) parts plus repairs to the unusable bits. I really want to try a proper restoration without resorting to sourcing new or replacement parts if at all possible. It might mean using the broken parts, making moulds of them and casting my own resin replacements but I'm hoping to not even go that far. I really want to just use what I have, and see if I can 'bring it back from the dead'. Roy. Edited January 26, 2015 by roymattblack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowler0000 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I only count 3 tyres, Roy! Looks like you're going to be vulcanizing one more.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codger Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I'm rubbing my hands together and laughing wickedly............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roymattblack Posted January 24, 2015 Author Share Posted January 24, 2015 The 4th tyre was still in the box. I'll start taking this pile of junk apart over the weekend. Roy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roymattblack Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 OK... Off we go. I've started taking the Fiat apart, basically by following the (naff) instruction book - in reverse. I've already discovered that there are parts fixed on prior to the instructions saying to do so, which means 'other' bits have to be removed before getting at the part actually WANTING to be removed... Typical Pocher. I'm labelling umpteen little boxes for the various screws, nuts, bolts etc, and each car sub assembly will be boxed/bagged as it gets taken apart. Small parts, I'm boxing in little numbered poly tubs, and writing the tub number on the instructions against the part. Hopefully I'll be able to find the bits when it eventually comes to putting it back together. LOTS to come apart... Roy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shood23 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Rather you than me, but i am sure that it will turn out as good as all your other big builds Shaun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 This could be even more interesting than a basic build from new, it's always nice to take something that's crappy and turn it into a little gem! Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shood23 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I have one question roy, so far how do you rate the previous owners modelling skills (you don't need to be nice unless they are a member on here) Shaun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roymattblack Posted January 27, 2015 Author Share Posted January 27, 2015 No - they aren't a member here. I'll be respectful though as apparently they are now no longer with us. Shall we just say, they weren't expert modellers but no doubt enjoyed the build... Roy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpnuts Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Will be watching this masterpiece in the making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roymattblack Posted January 27, 2015 Author Share Posted January 27, 2015 (edited) All dismantled and bagged/boxed. As it happens, this kit is extremely simple for a Pocher.Anyone contemplating getting a Pocher, but worried about the complexity would do well to start with the Fiat. Much of the kit had been put together with a 'push-fit' approach, which made disassembly pretty simple. Lots of the kit is screws, nuts and bolts, so that was simple too. Some parts had been glued using what appears to be Evo Stik. Horrible, thick and gungey, but in the main, removable. One or two larger parts were stuck with an over-abundance of plastic glue. Difficult to get apart without using knives, screwdrivers and a razor saw. All done now though. There are quite a lot of badly broken parts so we'll just have to see how they go when the time comes. I'm now after the Pocher Fiat DVD for the restoration, and to add some of the missing stuff that Pocher has undoubtedly left out... Roy. Edited September 26, 2015 by roymattblack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shood23 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 No - they aren't a member here. I'll be respectful though as apparently they are now no longer with us. Shall we just say, they weren't expert modellers but no doubt enjoyed the build... Roy. That's a very diplomatic answer Shaun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roymattblack Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 I've made a small start on the engine... Cyliners cleaned up, sanded, de-glued etc and repainted. A few ancillaries also given the same treatment, and holes are now drilled for the (missing) oil lines. The miniscule (5mm) mesh on the fuel pump/carburettor was added as the kit doesn't have one. Roy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codger Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 It's getting beautifuller...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roymattblack Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 A bit more detailing and oil - staining to the the fuel inlet system and I've cleaned up and rebuilt the distributor/magneto. A bit of oily staining needed here later on. The metal strapping was scratch made from wire. Roy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PC2012 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 You're going to make a beautiful job of this, as usual! I'll be watching with interest..........to see what I can learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roymattblack Posted February 2, 2015 Author Share Posted February 2, 2015 Only a small update. Work is going slowly on this at present as I have a publisher SERIOUSLY chasing me to complete a book. I'm working mainly on that at present but as a bit of respite, I've started adding the umpteen missing oil lines on the engine. LOADS more to go... Roy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roymattblack Posted February 2, 2015 Author Share Posted February 2, 2015 A tad more... Roy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Exquisite work Roy! The book? The publisher? Not Crowood by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roymattblack Posted February 2, 2015 Author Share Posted February 2, 2015 (edited) No... I write humorous fantasy/adventure... My first book is here: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Worter-Water-Misadventures-Granny-Grayling/dp/1897312016 I'm being chased for part 2. I also co-wrote a book for a movie that has won two book awards: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Shadowland-Legend-Roy-Fitzsimmonds-ebook/dp/B00BKKSYAW/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&sr=&qid= That one is also coming up for part 2.... All good fun. Roy. Edited February 2, 2015 by roymattblack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toms111s Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Your man of many talents Roy. I am enjoying what your doing with this Fiat. How do you go about separating glued parts? I've tried the freezer method on an aircraft kit and ended up tearing the plastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roymattblack Posted February 3, 2015 Author Share Posted February 3, 2015 Many thanks for the generous words. Regarding the glue, I was lucky enough to find that the majority of glued parts in the previous build had been done with either Evo-Stik or something resembling a creamy coloured toothpaste - I kid you not. Fortunately it made all the dismantling fairly straightforward, with just cleaning of the parts afterwards necessary. Some parts were glued with poly cement though, and it was done to the extent that it looked as if half a tube had been used on every join... Some parts broke apart quite easily, but some had to be cut apart with a fine razor saw. Some awkward parts just wouldn't budge and in the end were just literally broken apart, resulting in quite damaged bits. They were cleaned up, and when the time comes they will be repaired with plasticard, filler, whatever. The engine so far. Pushrods cleaned up - severely rusty before - brass parts polished a bit as I don't want a 'mirror' look although the pictures make it look that way. Inlet parts fixed on. Tons more oil lines etc to add. Roy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roymattblack Posted February 5, 2015 Author Share Posted February 5, 2015 More stuff..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzwizz24 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 I have this same kit brand new in my stash for a couple of years now. I haven't had the courage to start it yet. Still have lots to learn so I'll definitely be following along VERY CLOSELY. Hope to learn more than a few things. Good luck! Looking awesome so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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