Rick Brown Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Chaps. Are the Amodel kits any good? Rick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasermonkey Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I have five of the seven (just need the Genet Moth and DH60T to complete the set) and they look pretty nice on the sprues. I was pleasantly surprised by the moulding quality. There are plenty of part options. Some even have two sets of wings, so the spares box will benefit greatly. I haven't had the opportunity to check for accuracy, as I don't have any plans, neither have I started one yet. However, I doubt the is anything better in this scale. I'm more than happy to dig the kits about and photograph the contents if you like. Best regards, Mark. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Brown Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 That'll be great Mark, if you could! Wonde how well they build? Rick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptmvarsityfan Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Hi, I am currently building the DH60C and DH60M together. As lasermonkey says there are plenty of parts options and the differences between the types are very well done although maybe check references for individual aircraft as the instructions are a bit basic. The quality of moulding is very good and I assembled the fuselages and lower wings with a small amount of filler. Still to add the top wings and am a little apprehensive as the struts seem to be to scale and may be fragile, as on the Amodel Hart types. One minor quirk is that only one control column is supplied in each kit although easy to scratch build. Found a small amount of sanding required on the wing and tailplane leading edges as there is a very slight mould mismatch. Generally though I'm very pleased an intend to build at least two more! Cheers, Paul PS there is a decent inbox review on Britmodeller of the DH60T, google "Amodel Moth" and brings up related Britmodeller threads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZKIWI Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) I have to agree with the other two , I am very pleased with the ones I have and pleasantly surprised as there are more different fuselages than I expected . For example I had expected a basic fuselage with instructions to cut at the right point and replace with the radial , for the Genet Moth , but this kit has a single seat fuselage . The Cirrus engined kit has its own fuselage as does the Gypsy , the Metal Moth and of course the Moth Major . Some have two sets of wings , slatted and unslatted and the common sprues have alternate props(3) , wheels (2) , U/C(2), fin and rudders (2) , fuel tanks(3) I have made no attempt to look at how accurate these are , they look right and that will do me just now however one of the options for the DH 60 G is G-AAEE , I think this might have been streamlined with a curved as opposed to a flat sided fuselage . This is something I will be trying to find out about as it is one I will build after Jason of course . Edited January 21, 2015 by NZKIWI 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptmvarsityfan Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Hi, have had some slight difficulties as my builds progress! The DH60C has a separate part (6) for the lower part of the centre-section fuel tank. To get this to fit I glued the upper and lower parts (8 and 6) togther to get a complete fuel tank then cut away the centre section of the upper wing and and attached the wing halves to the tank using the wing from another kit to match the (slight) dihedral. The instructions aren't terribly clear in this area. When gluing the upper and lower bits of the tank the leading edge should be flush, this will leave a slight step or lip at the rear edge which is correct from rear views of the aircraft. Also the centre section struts are a bit fiddly, I added the exhausts first then threaded the struts behind. There is a good walkaround of tyhe DH60 on Britmodeller and this months Aeroplane magazine has a Database on the Moth with a nice close-up of G-EBLV which shows the centre-section strut location nicely. Enjoying building these models and they look the part! Cheers, Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptmvarsityfan Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 PS to avoid the above faffing about with the centre section tank you could just use the existing detail moulded onto the wing as part 6 only differs slightly and would not be noticeable under the top wing anyway! Thankfully only the DH60C seems to require this. Cheers again, Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasermonkey Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I managed to take a few pics of the DH 60C tonight. They're not great, as I'm dog-tired at the moment! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasermonkey Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Here are a few of the major parts next to some old Scale Models plans i found knocking around. I will separate the parts from the sprues when I'm less likely to cause any damage to them and take some better pics, if anyone's interested. Notice that I used the Gypsy Moth drawing, when I should have used the Cirrus drawing. I didn't at the time...... From a cursory glance, it looks pretty close. The wings may be a tad longer. I'll get the verniers out tomorrow and measure them. I think there may be a millimetre in it.Hope this helps, Mark. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZKIWI Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I would like some suggestions on interior colour , Amodels callouts are for Humbrol 64 light grey as the basic interior colour , Humbrol 110 wood brown for the surround to the front seat and Humbrol 27003 steel for the interior framing . Some pictures on the Net appear to show a pale grey interior , I am not sure , could this be what silver dope looks like from the inside ? The framing , some DH60s were wooden framed , and surely even the metal frames would have had some sort of coating ? I see one modeller from here has gone for an interior green . On another point there is a thin black line along the leading edge of at least one of the props , I am thinking this is probably a brass strip ? I have been working long hours and have had little time for modelling but I have fettled the lower wing to fuselage . This took some patience , and all the surfaces needed to be sharped up and sanded , basicly the part was too big for the slot which was too small . I got it to the wing to the point where I felt it was the right width , then I gave the two fuselage halves a light sand on their centre line till the fuselage fitted into the space between the wings . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptmvarsityfan Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Hi, There are a couple of photos on the Britmodeller walkarounds which show part of the interior of G-EBLV which is a mid grey colour, the framing also being the same grey. This would be painted on as the basic colour of the fabric would be a brick red, see other threads on Britmodeller on the interiors of fabric covered aircraft. All DH60s weere wooden framed except the DH60M. I went for interior green for my DH60M which I will be doing in RAF colours as I assume this was standard for RAF aircraft. Propellers seem to vary a lot and I would check references for individual aircraft, have seen them all natural wood, black and also cream/white where fabric has been applied. Would agree that the black line is probably a brass strip. After a bit of struggle got the top wing on my DH60C! Cheers, Paul 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZKIWI Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 (edited) Thanks for that , I have now seen pictures on the Net where the strip on the prop is brass and one aircraft with a cream coloured prop which definitely has a black strip on the leading edge of the prop , which is a tad wider than the brass strips .Last night I had a look at the floor panel which appeared to be about a mm too wide for it's hole but that has sanded back to fit . I also cleaned up the wings , once removed from the sprue you have seven stubs from the runners to deal with , I did not want to sand off the leading edge detail and with care they have been dealt with . All in all I am enjoying this kit . I also had a look at the fuel tank , once again the fit straight off the sprue did not work , but I did not expect it to by now .again a little clean up of both the place on the wing for the tank , and then some sanding to reduce the width of the tank , I am not certain that the edges of the position on the wing are verticle so I sanded a very slight bevel to the base of the tank sides and this seemed to help it sit in place better . There was also a lip on the trailing edge of the tank part moulded on the wing which needed removal . You are given three optional tank tops two appear similar but vary in their depth . Edited January 24, 2015 by NZKIWI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptmvarsityfan Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 the lip on the trailing edge of the tank is correct! the lower part of the tank projects a bit further back than the upper part. have seen a photo of this. cheers, paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffB Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I'm finding this invaluable guys, as I'm just about to start my own build of a Metal Moth. Thanks Cliff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptmvarsityfan Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 cheers cliff, good luck with the build which is actually very enjoyable but a little bit challenging! I love the way amodel have subtly captured the stringer detail on the dh60m fuselage! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZKIWI Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 (edited) With the lip on the trailing edge of the part of the tank that is integral with the wing in place the other half of the tank over hangs the lead edge , By removing the lip , I have lost this over hang and have a tidier join seam at both ends .Rightly or wrongly that is what I have done . Edited January 25, 2015 by NZKIWI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Aero Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Early Moths had a grey interior. The frames on Metal Moths were also grey from what I can make out from the service sheets. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZKIWI Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I have the decal sheet for the royal DH60 G-AALG , can anyone help with information on the details as I have been unable to find anything about . Did it have slatted or unslatted wings , which U/C setup did it have , and what exhaust setup , please ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Swindell Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 This should help:- If you're using the AModel Gipsy Moth kit you want long exhaust, larger wheels, and split axle undercarriage. The photo reproduction is not the best, but I'm thinking I can see the 3 underwing slat track fairings, and a slight protrusion ahead of the wing in the slat position. Note also the headrest and the steerable tailskid also included in the Amodel kit. I've also got this kit in the to do list - AirDecal Royal DeHavillands sheet? I'm planning the Fox Moth as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Aero Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 G-AALG did have slats fitted. Ref DH Moth p.120. What colours do they have for this Moth because I'm not sure this was Red and Blue. I have a superb photo of G-AAWU which was also used by the Duke and that isn't in the two colours either. It's a 60M so it will have a steerable skid. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Swindell Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Well spotted on the 60M there John, I'd spotted the ribbing on the fuselage side and not put 2&2 together, in fact I was pondering how to modify the Gipsy moth kit - as I have a 60M kit as well problem solved. The decals do indeed give it in the Guards red and blue scheme. If it's all over one colour (and the above photo would seem to suggest this) any idea what this would be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Swindell Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 This shot of G-AALG shows tonal variation matching the Guards scheme, on the tail at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Aero Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 This shot has also just come my way via ivor Ramsden, from the Isle of Man Aviation and Military museum of G-AALG in a slightly different Guards scheme. It was taken at Ronaldsway but no date known. The Dukes aeroplanes were usually sold abroad after his service. I have the Gipsy III prop off one of these a/c. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Aero Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 This is also the Duke in the front cockpit at Shotley. Sqn Leader Don in the rear seat. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZKIWI Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Thank you so much John that would appear to answer all my questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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