AdrianMF Posted February 4, 2017 Author Share Posted February 4, 2017 49 minutes ago, limeypilot said: The best way to do it... Thanks Ian, very useful tip about the tape template. I was visualising trying to measure the widths at various points and thinking it wouldn't end well! I was thinking of PVA glue because I will not be gluing plastic to plastic. Or maybe a solvent-free contact adhesive. Regards, Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greggles.w Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 It seems I've found a scratch build master class! Great persistence with your experimentation.. not sure I'd so readily restart a whole fuselage again .. twice!! following along .. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch K Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Still here and still enjoying this! I keep thinking about having a go myself, but then sanity (or cowardice!) re-asserts itself (can't find a chicken/snivelling coward emoticon). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted February 4, 2017 Author Share Posted February 4, 2017 20 hours ago, greggles.w said: It seems I've found a scratch build master class! Great persistence with your experimentation.. not sure I'd so readily restart a whole fuselage again .. twice!! It's one of those "Don't do it this way" masterclasses... I should have picked a square one... Regards, Adrian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Hi Adrian, great work so far but I really can't see what was wrong with that second fuselage. It looked fine to me .👍 Anyway, thanks for posting this and keep going - I'm learning quite a bit. You are even making me rethink my poor opinion of balsa- perhaps I just need some 'Ronseal wood hardener' . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted February 23, 2017 Author Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) Hello All, Still plodding along. I have filled in between the formers with balsa to strengthen it before slathering on a coat of Milliput: You can just see the tubes for the undercarriage mounting poking out beneath the cockpit. Thanks for looking, Adrian Edited February 23, 2017 by AdrianMF 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Ahhhh! I'd been wondering what had happened with this build. I see you have been busy! Intriguing approach to building the fuselage - I can see me copying this method one day! 🙂 keep going! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 Well it's too late to turn back now. Fuselage liberally slathered with Milliput. Tomorrow and some sanding will tell me if this is the answer or the cause of fuselage attempt number four... Thanks for looking, Adrian 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) I am watching from time to time your efforts here and I am a bit surprised that you quit already so three times where it was not so bad really... . Regarding fabric covered fuselage I would do it now by a double attempt - first made by sanding fuselage round in section to the dimension a bit smaller then desired, than glue on it very thin sprues, everywhere, where edges shoud came. When it will be alredy fixed I would a thin layer of putty - the best in this technique is Tamiya grey basic putty. Then one have to move a finger (or something of similar softness) along fuselage - it will remove excess of putty from speces between sprues and from sprues but not from a close distance from spre, making desired struture. I am using this to make a structure on fabric covered wings (DH 84, DH 90, now R5). Before finding this technique - in fuselage I was just using wet sanding making the fuselage structure (Avia BH 33) You may see the result here I know - on Avia decals remains silvering,... I keep my fingers crossed for your Fairey Jerzy-Wojtek Edited February 25, 2017 by JWM error correction 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) Hello again, So last night I covered the fuselage with Milliput. This morning I got to sanding, using extra coarse decorating sandpaper and a file. First I squared off sides and bottom, stopping when I got to the black edges: The engine cowling shape has, I think, finally been done justice: And I've plotted a best course through the rear fuselage, where the formers didn't quite line up but served as a guide. In the second picture you can see where the former edges start to loom out of the filler as you get close: In line with my policy of never letting putty go to waste, I tried my hand at another figure, as you can see in the dish in my post above. I painted her up and she looks quite dashing as la Libertee in the Blenheim: So, what does the rest of the day hold for me, after such an excellent and bracing start? Finishing the fuselage perhaps?? Nope. I'm going to see one of my in-laws and his theatre troop perform a modern allegory about whistleblowing and alienation in a small hall off Trafalgar Square. Families - I love 'em Thanks for looking, Adrian Edited February 26, 2017 by AdrianMF 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheonix Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 This is a really interesting project: as a fellow scratch builder it is very interesting to see how you tackle different problems (even if it takes three attempts!) This is really going well - I hope that you keep up with this now until it is finished. An unusual type and a very interesting one. Will continue to follow with great interest. P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 I agree with all of Phoenix's comments above and will be stealing some of your techniques in future projects. Keep up the good work!👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 Thank you gentlemen. I've been "distracted" by work this week so not much progress. But I have added a tad more Milliput to fill a couple of depressions and make the engine cowling edge a bit sharper on the port side. I was wondering what the strange discolourations were in a couple of places. It is the balsa space fillers showing through - I will have to see what that does to the surface finish, as this will be mostly silver. The next step is to make some embossed card sidings to see if I can do the fabric effect that way. Fingers crossed! Thanks for looking, Adrian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 I keep my fingers for you BTW - you are using corase sanding paper. I am always using paper "600" (or higher) but always wetting a lot with water. Actually I am doing this in bathroom, almost under constant flow of water. Have you experience with wet sading? Why you prefer other way? If I may ask you... Cheers J-W 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 I sand dry because my wife used all my wet and dry on her furniture! I haven't made it to Halfords ( a big U.K. car care store company) in a while, so I'm stealing her decorating stuff. Seriously though, whatever I do, the rear of the fuselage will get covered by the fabric effect so a few scratches don't bother me there. I used sanding sticks on the cowling to get a smoother finish. Regards, Adrian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerbannog Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Wow - great show! ;-) René 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Great work, Sir! Shaping up very nicely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Any news on this one Adrian? No pressure of course... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted April 9, 2017 Author Share Posted April 9, 2017 Still going/resumed after being distracted by the old Airfix Blenheim! Now in the "Prototypes..." GB to persuade me to get a move on. Regards, Adrian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Excellent news. I like this build! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HP42 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Any more progress on this perchance? Looking very interesting, would love to see it finished. 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 Next on my list, after I get on top of work... The project has been tottering along in the background. I realise that I haven't posted some of the stuff I've been doing. I wasn't happy with the original tailplane (too thin) so I re-made one from balsa: ...and cut out the elevator: The fuselage got some ribbing from scored plastic card. Contact adhesive didn't work: ...but CA did, sort of: And I did the bottom with fishing line glued down with CA and filled with PPP: The trouble with a project with long gaps is you look at what you have done and wonder whether to start again from scratch. So I'm vaguely contemplating wing #2 (a bit too chunky, not sure how to do control surfaces on what I've got) and fuselage #4 (not sure if the scored plastic card isn't too uneven, need to prime and have a look). Thanks for looking, Adrian 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, AdrianMF said: The trouble with a project with long gaps is you look at what you have done and wonder whether to start again from scratch. I think you need to turn your 'OCD' switch off as I can't see anything wrong...just lots of hard work. If one doesn't draw peoples attention to such things, you can get away with a lot . Besides, how many would openly say 'your ribbing is uneven' . Stuart 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greggles.w Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 19 hours ago, AdrianMF said: The trouble with a project with long gaps is you look at what you have done and wonder whether to start again from scratch. .. this is so very true Adrian .. but fuselage #4?! Good grief, I’ve gone pale just thinking about it !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 I am glad to see that you 've returned to this project. Fuselage looks great to me! Cheers J-W 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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