Madmonk Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Having heard the Argos had these at half price I treated myself to a pre-Christmas pressie. The contents are quite sparse! I have to say that I am quite impressed with both the amount of detail on the 'toy' and the proportions of it, at just over 700mm long it works out at about 1:45 scale. The only down side is some of the side walls are stickers, as are all the windows and engine detail. As a comparison here it is with FMs 1:144 kit. First area to tackle was the cockpit, removed the front and the internal bulkhead, cut out the windows and started to scratch build the cockpit. There are 3D printed replacement cockpit parts available online but at about £60 I'll keep scratchbuilding! Test fitted into body halves. Will be a slow burn on this in between soldering LEDs, though will be looking to light this up and maybe have the lighting remote controlled. Thanks for looking. Warren 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Good start. Will keep an eye on your thread, as I have one of these and plan to go all out on it, too. Those 3-d printed pieces are going to become the masters for a resin detail set, to be produced by Mike Salzo, so definitely worth waiting for those. Btw, don't know if you're aware, but the standard traditional glues won't work on this big beastie, as it's polypropylene. Check out the thread on the RPF for some suggestions for what to use instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmonk Posted December 23, 2014 Author Share Posted December 23, 2014 Thanks Smiffy, didn't know about the glue so will check it out. Cheers, Warren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhatter Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 cool project Warren. This'll be fun to watch. Can you clarify if this is an unpainted toy or is it a really basic model? I've never seen one of these before. If it's a toy, why didn't they paint it? At least there's heaps of scope for detailing and lighting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmonk Posted December 26, 2014 Author Share Posted December 26, 2014 Hi Si, Hope you had a good Christmas with all the plastic you wished for! The Hasbro Falcon is a toy, moulded in soft grey plastic, the box says its for 4+ years so ideal for me!! To keep the cost down all the coloured panels are stickers as are the windows, engine and some of the side panels. The surface detail is very good, I'm not going toadd anything further to it. The only nasty part to it is the landing gear but I want to display it in flight so will be removing the offending lumps of plastic and scratching some covers. Cheers, Warren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Yes and they've captured it's shape, outline and proportions way better than any plastic kit of the Falcon, ever produced. All it needs is some detailing, some lighting, a little fettling and a paint job. It's like it's been made with us modellers in mind. I bought one and was so impressed, I sold my 72nd Finemolds kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunpowder17 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 It is a great piece. Mins just hanging on the wall waiting for Mike to do the resin parts. Loctite all plastis works well on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 I like this.... any pictures of the sides and underneath please ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmonk Posted December 27, 2014 Author Share Posted December 27, 2014 Hi Dave, Underside of Falcon And a close up The landing gear is not that good and the underside gun is moulded on but not too bothered as it is on the underside and will not be seen that easily when finished. The stickers Side panels and airlocks Now off to talk the dog for a walk in the snow! Cheers, Warren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 I'm seriously tempted to pop down Argos now. Especially after reading this awesome thread.... http://www.therpf.com/f11/new-bmf-coming-216125/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 and has anybody bought one of these..... http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Search/searchTerm/258%252F6498.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmonk Posted December 27, 2014 Author Share Posted December 27, 2014 Did think about it Dave but the wings don't open so left it alone, also much cheaper if you search on Amazon. Cheers, Warren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunpowder17 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 x wing is not very good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 A good start It looks a lot like the MPC kit in places, just much bigger and as if they've vac-formed some of the parts, then created the moulds. The landing gear is horrible, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James M Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 I got one too. It's made from PE, so paint won't stick to it unless you apply adhesion promoter before the primer. Ideally PE should be flamed and wiped down with alcohol first, but I'm a bit worried about melting the details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhatter Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 The landing gear is horrible, isn't it? well, it is a toy after all But you and everyone else are quite right - they are bad! I wasn't sure what they were until someone pointed them out as being the landing gear. Shocking job. Still, overall, it's a detailers wet dream come true really. The bottom guns could be cut off very carefully with a scriber and the barrles replaced with brass. If the enitre body comes apart, you could almost attach them to servos and have them turn etc. It's not like there wouldnt be enough room inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmonk Posted January 3, 2015 Author Share Posted January 3, 2015 MH, it would be fairly easy to cast a copy of to top gun as this is loose and replace the barrels on both. Landing gear is available on a certain auction site to replace the lumps of plastic but I'm going to build mine in flight so will just scratch covers for them. The servo idea had me on that auction site and for less than £3 I can get a couple of motors! Cheers, Warren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Landing gear is available on a certain auction site to replace the lumps of plastic.... I did a search but i'm confused as a lot of Hasbro Falcon's seem to have the word 'Legacy' in the title and feature internals, figures etc.... Are these 'play' Falcon's the same scale/size ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmonk Posted January 3, 2015 Author Share Posted January 3, 2015 I don't have any of the legacy parts but reading on various forums it would appear that this Falcon is a similar size, can't say definately but looks about the same. Currently drilling out the holes in the underside for all the landing and warning lights. Cheers, Warren 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmonk Posted January 3, 2015 Author Share Posted January 3, 2015 Right, a quick question, anyone had any experience with electroluminescent tape, might be worth looking at for the engine lighting. Cheers, Warren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James M Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 EL tape has a very short lifespan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmonk Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 Thanks James, back to LEDs then. Cheers, Warren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunpowder17 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Wide angle LEDs are good for this kind of thing. Put them behind some very thin white plasticard to diffuse the hot spots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flektor Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I got this too and I also bought issue one of the DeAgostini model for the cockpit detail. It will need cutting down to fit but once it's in the cockpit I don't think anyone is going to say it's wrongly proportioned. I also note that some other modelling fora (yes folks, we are NOT the only one) some people say that the laser cannons are not quite the right size on some models so I'm wondering if the metal ones for the DeAg kit would be ok on this one but I think they may be too big. Included with the DeAg model is one section of hull plating and although it won't fit properly, it does give a good indication of colour and weather effects. For the engine, I've got some 12v LED strip and I think there's enough room to run two strips next to each other and put them behind a blue tinted strip of plastic. Finally, my kids (who get me very excellent presents) bought me a Revell snap together kit a couple of years back which rather splendidly comes with a pre coloured blue strip. 12v LED strip later and voila ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmonk Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 I've just ordered a set of resin parts and photoetch from Randy Cooper for this. So will get back on to this when it arrives, which should hopefully be towards the end of the month. Will probably do more on the lighting before then. Cheers, Warren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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