JWM Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) Hi First time I presenting something not RFI but in WIP forum. Some weeks ago I posted on RFI my Proctor, and I noticed that it was accepted much more than I was expecting. I mentioned there, That I still keep in the stash next Proctor, which one day I want to convert into Vega Gull P3. In last Friday this day suddelny came... I started in the evening. Proctor generaly is based on concept of Vega Gull P3, but has bigger fuselage to have more comfortable inside in early variants for also 3 people, later (like the Frog kit) for four. And wing have also larger wingspan etc... So first one had to make fuselage a bit (2mm) slim in the middle. I cut it with blade. Next I have to cut each half of fuselage into 4 pieces and remove some parts to adjust to the shape of smaller fuselage of Vega. In engine bottom it brake, OK, it will be reshaped anyway. Then I glued pieces together back. Then Humbrol filler Wings also had to be done smaller... The Saturday work - sanding - brought some results: and more body putty Some details for inside The canopy I am glueing window by window from flat card of transparent polystyrene Regards Jerzy-Wojtek Edited August 23, 2017 by JWM Switch to Flickr 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Jerzy-Wojtek this is wonderful I love the single panes of glass, it is far more effective than a moulded canopy But boy you are really brave to try it out Lovely work all over too b 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffB Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Classic 'no frills' conversion work. Takes me back to the 1970s and Airfix Magazine. I love it! Cliff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch K Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Fantastic, painstaking work! I'm looking forward to seeing updates on this one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyverns4 Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Russell Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Very interesting basic modelling with great skill (and a lot of filler). Worth following I think. Alternative paths http://modelingmadness.com/scott/civil/vg.htm http://www.1001modelkits.com/aircraft/25954-omega-models-72228-percival-vega-gull.html Or, for the very well off http://www.toymart.com/Skybirds-15A-Percival-Vega-Gull/10648 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsprop Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 I love this! Great work so far Ben 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted November 20, 2014 Author Share Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) Hi, Thanks for support! Quote Alternative paths http://modelingmadne...tt/civil/vg.htm http://www.1001model...-vega-gull.html Or, for the very well off http://www.toymart.c...Vega-Gull/10648 Yes, I know it,,, - prices at the level of 100 pounds or 100 US dollars. Well -this could be next motivation for doing scratch conversion, besides the fun of work itself. I am going to made her in markings of communication a/c of 267 Sq. RAF, Africa. This will be DE/MS/azur. I've found someone model in the net with those markings but this model has azur painted also u/c. Since almost always in British airplane not rectactable u/c is it painted ilike upper camo I have doubts, if it is possible. Has anybody photo of this machine, by chance? Report from today. The end of sanding. I draw some panel lines, painted canopy with gloss varnish, add some dacals to mark openings on fuselage and as frames of canopy. And I made a double pitot tube: Edited August 23, 2017 by JWM Switch to Flickr 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learstang Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) Nice work - you almost make it look easy! Almost. Excellent work on that canopy! Regards, Jason Edited November 21, 2014 by Learstang 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) Hi Thanks very much to all of you who watch and especially to collegues, who made comments or likes! I had a crises regarding the reality of the painting scheme I wanted to do. I asked question in WWII forum on BM and hopefuly got answer which help me to overcame the crises So today I painted (brush, I am still not switch out of brush....) The propeller - I am always do rotable propellers, even in resin engins of MPMs I am drilling a hole and contruct it rotating. Here, and in V-engines, I am using a piece of small tube from a Chineese lolipop as a bearing... I think that the rest will be soon of RFI forum. Regards and thank you for watching Jerzy-Wojtek Edited August 23, 2017 by JWM Switch to Flickr 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted November 24, 2014 Author Share Posted November 24, 2014 (edited) This post I made here by mistake, it should be done in discussion by era, WWII: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234971179-percival-vega-gull-ax698-photo/ I made this comment editinig post later. I made there a link, so I do not removed it... - anyway it is the same topic, only different aspects Hi, I've just read more about Percival airplanes...It is better to do late then never. It looks that I mixed some facts, but hopefully not all. Indeed, Percival Vega (not Gull) has wider fuselage, the size of Proctor (since last onece had even a dam-like windscreen, identical with that of Proctor) and also larger wings with landing lights and higher tail. This is for example P10 variant. It has a central glass in windscreen (three, not two panels) and a metal panel between windows from top. The AX698 is quoted as "Percival Gull Six" in RAF serials (for exampele here: http://www.rafcommands.com/serials/raf-serials-aa-az-ba-bz/) -so not a Percival Vega, ie: smaller wings, shorter fuselage, no lamps and cabin without central panel and narrow fuselage. Here (http://www.airport-data.com/manuf/Percival_Aircraft_Co_Ltd.html) airplane 52 (AX698) and 49 (which then finished as a Spanish one, marked by naciolalists as 30.1) are named the same way as "Percival Gull Six". There is an interesting discussion and comparison of plans for different variants: http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?113932-Sorting-Out-The-Percival-Gulls The AX689 seems for me to have small wings, stright edge of rudder (so smaller area of tail) - look at this model in link below. http://airfixtributeforum.myfastforum.org/Omega_1_72_Percival_Gull_Six_about7648.html This is exactly this model, I mentioned in first post, that I've seen one in Net and I want to do the same markings. Now it took me a while to find it again as a link So I am going to finish mine conversion as AX698, I belive it is OK. Am I right??? Is anybody convienced? Regards Jerzy-Wojtek Edited November 24, 2014 by JWM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsprop Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Lovely work, just wish the 1/72 Proctor isn't so expensive, otherwise I'd copy your fantastic conversion! Ben 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Foster60 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 That really is great modelling, like we used to do (well try anyway) back in the day. Really inspiring well done, now where my stash? Nigel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Womby Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 This is great modelling. The canopy is particularly well done. David 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch K Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I'm loving this! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted March 19, 2015 Author Share Posted March 19, 2015 (edited) Thank you Gents for your comments - it was a great surprise for me that my old posts from November are read again The model was on RFI somwhere in November 2014... Cheers J-W Edited March 19, 2015 by JWM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsprop Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Thank you Gents for your comments - it was a great surprise for me that my old posts from November are read again The model was on RFI somwhere in November 2014... Cheers J-W OOOh, I'll og look for that! Ben 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted March 20, 2015 Author Share Posted March 20, 2015 Actually it is here: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234971972-percival-gull-six-scratch-conversion-frog-proctor/ Cheers J-W 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis Alfonso Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 On 19/3/2015 at 5:48 AM, wellsprop said: Lovely work, just wish the 1/72 Proctor isn't so expensive, otherwise I'd copy your fantastic conversion! Ben Hi Jerzy!!! I say the same as Ben...the 110 British Pounds for the kit makes me think in that, BUT will need some of your bravery to do the canopy!!! Thank you very much for sharing!!! Luis Alfonso 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROBOT Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Great scratchwork! Very impressive build! Looks Kind of similar to a Bücker Bestmann or a BF 108 Taifun 🤔 Could be a donor kit when scratching this in a bigger scale I think...!?!? Thx 4 sharing, Olli 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 Thanks Gents 1 hour ago, Luis Alfonso said: Hi Jerzy!!! I say the same as Ben...the 110 British Pounds for the kit makes me think in that, BUT will need some of your bravery to do the canopy!!! Really? the old Proctor has such value on the market? Unbelivable... Cheers J-W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis Alfonso Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 1 hour ago, JWM said: Thanks Gents Really? the old Proctor has such value on the market? Unbelivable... Cheers J-W Well Jerzy, The link Ed Russell shared above: https://www.toymart.com/Skybirds-15A-Percival-Vega-Gull/10648 Says that the Skybirds Percival Vega Gull cost 110 British Pounds...its a small fortune....and for that same quantity of money there are a 100% chance to get not only one but so many Old but nice Novo blue header bagged/ Novoexport Red Boxings or header bagged /box of yellow/black, blue/white or other colours with russian language with drawings / and even Frog Proctors to try our hand in a nice build and enjoy the trip from start to finish and learn many things in the road to improve our skills and knowledge about the hobby. BUT there are some people selling those goodies very expensive like US$40.00 Plus Shipping + Handling charges...so the trick is to look around and well into the places which sells kits for cheaper prices...also there are chanced of people selling at affordable prices. Cheers!!! Luis Alfonso 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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