charlie_c67 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 (edited) Thanks for that info, hadn't noticed that small moulding on the back. Wonder if the Mk II's have the same thing. Edited October 17, 2014 by charlie_c67 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Hmm, I'd like to, but I need a decent base to stick it to. If I go any further with it, any slight distortion when I subsequently stick it down will start to throw things out of alignment (masts etc). Ideally I need a small wooden base with a perspex cover. I just haven't got around to finding one yet. bet you find something suitable at Telford G The Hurri is looking very dr_gn doc, like the others I love it already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_gn Posted October 17, 2014 Author Share Posted October 17, 2014 I've masked and painted the canopy - this one is much better: Unfortunately after glueing the original windscreen (on left) in place I realised it too has a flaw over the top edge. I'd assumed it was part of the framing, but after comparing it with the spare one on the canopy sprue (and some reference pics), it is indeed a moulding flaw. Luckily it was a simple matter to prise it off the fuselage and fit the new one: Also today got the corrected underwing serials from RedFirecracker. The Xtradecal plans show L1599 to be all silver underneath, but according to my incredibly knowledgable source over the pond (thanks Tango98) it was delivered from the factory with a three tone finish. I therefore needed a white serial. Despite my best efforts to confuse things, RedFirecracker made some matches which as usual appear to be spot-on at the first attempt, so that's sorted: Thanks RF!And finally, got the corrected 5-spoke wheels: They do look a bit thin, and the rim detail isn't as well defined as the Airfix ones, but at least it's consistently absent: 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Very crisp canopy masking. I'm impressed that you'd replace the windscreen (I shouldn't be, it's in keeping with the amazing dedication you've shown thus far) and I'm sure the result will justify removing the original. It's surprising that the Quickboost wheels have such vague detail; my limited experience with them suggested that they'd be a big improvement over the kit wheels, but as you say, the gain is in the consistency.... Looking forward to the next update and seeing more paint on. Andrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSTON Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Perfection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritag Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Bet that canopy took a while to mask. Worth it tho'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Ekedahl Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 (edited) It's surprising that the Quickboost wheels have such vague detail; my limited experience with them suggested that they'd be a big improvement over the kit wheels, but as you say, the gain is in the consistency....Andrew. Those are CMK wheels, not Quickboost. Edited October 18, 2014 by Sten Ekedahl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Those are CMK wheels, not Quickboost. Right you are, Sten. I was thinking of CMK's 'Quick and Easy' line but confused the names. Apologies. If I were to attempt a similar build, I think I'd purchase a set regardless of the provenance, given how indifferent the Airfix wheels appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir T Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 It's been a very interesting build thread this. I have to say I'm surprised by some of the gaffs you've picked up - the lack of metal covers around the guns especially. Whilst I would think the majority of people with this kit will just build and enjoy it, not noticing/caring about its faults - after seeing such supurb work I wonder if thats always the right approach. I know which I'd rather have on my shelf. Great work - looking forward to seeing it finished! (Your other builds at the start of the thread are beautiful BTW) Cheers Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 I have both the CMK and Freightdog 5-spoke wheels and the detail on the Freightdog ones is far superior. John. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_gn Posted October 18, 2014 Author Share Posted October 18, 2014 I have both the CMK and Freightdog 5-spoke wheels and the detail on the Freightdog ones is far superior. John. Having seen the CMK ones in the flesh I have no doubt you are right. Do the Freightdog ones have oval axle holes? I'll finish the model and see if it warrants better wheels. TBH I'm fed up of making allowances for the damned thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_gn Posted October 18, 2014 Author Share Posted October 18, 2014 It's been a very interesting build thread this. I have to say I'm surprised by some of the gaffs you've picked up - the lack of metal covers around the guns especially. Whilst I would think the majority of people with this kit will just build and enjoy it, not noticing/caring about its faults - after seeing such supurb work I wonder if thats always the right approach. I know which I'd rather have on my shelf. Great work - looking forward to seeing it finished! (Your other builds at the start of the thread are beautiful BTW) Cheers Stuart The thing is, despite the usual rave in-box reviews/previews of a new tool Airfix kit, you can't easily built this one to an acceptable standard without making fairly significant corrections to some of the part fit or form (e.g. the overlapping wingtips, misaligned wing halves and vague location of the wheel well sides). I'm not talking about modifying wing surfaces or wheels, I'm talking about basic assembly issues. Then there are the moulding flaws in the canopy, windscreen and wheels and I'm afraid the panel lines are way too big...remind me which century the kit was made in? I'm attending an RAeS lecture next week by someone from Airfix. I'll be very interested to hear what they have to say. I'm particularly looking forward to the Q&A session at the end... Thanks for the compliments. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch K Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 The Kora resin wheels are exquisitely detailed. A little reaming and they fit perfectly on the Airfix axles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir T Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) The thing is, despite the usual rave in-box reviews/previews of a new tool Airfix kit, you can't easily built this one to an acceptable standard without making fairly significant corrections to some of the part fit or form (e.g. the overlapping wingtips, misaligned wing halves and vague location of the wheel well sides). I'm not talking about modifying wing surfaces or wheels, I'm talking about basic assembly issues. Then there are the moulding flaws in the canopy, windscreen and wheels and I'm afraid the panel lines are way too big...remind me which century the kit was made in? I'm attending an RAeS lecture next week by someone from Airfix. I'll be very interested to hear what they have to say. I'm particularly looking forward to the Q&A session at the end... Thanks for the compliments. No worries, and it does make for interesting reading. I have to say that while things like the panel lines don't bother me (hell my painting is so bad they're actually a bonus!) basic fit issues like that are a real surprise. You've sorted them out nicely though.It'd be interesting to hear what they say. Cheers Stuart Edited October 19, 2014 by Sir T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Do the Freightdog ones have oval axle holes? Yes, they do. John. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_gn Posted October 19, 2014 Author Share Posted October 19, 2014 The finish on this one will be more important thaqnusual: I wanted a clean looking early spec. machine, and apart from roundels there are hardly any topside markings to draw the eye from any painting flaws.Started by masking: followed by a coat of Earth preshaded with German Grey: Then overcoated to leave just a hint of shading along the panel lines and control breaks: Hopefully get the Reflective Green on this evening. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritag Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Oh Good. I was just musing this morning on the process of pre-shading and up pops a fine demonstration. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_gn Posted October 19, 2014 Author Share Posted October 19, 2014 Oh Good. I was just musing this morning on the process of pre-shading and up pops a fine demonstration. My opinion is that at 1:72, you should barley be able to see any preshading at all. Even if you 90% obscure it, it does seem to make a noticable difference. It can end up like a barely discernable panel line wash combined with a lightening of the colours in the panel centres (depending ion the colour). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_gn Posted October 19, 2014 Author Share Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) Masked my interpretation of an early "A" type camo pattern: Green coat, preshade, green coat: And my favourite part of modelling - removing masking on an early RAF scheme (flash has had a strange effect on the green - it's all one shade in reality): ...course there's an error - I forgot to mask the top part of the stbd. side of the fin/rudder, so it has a straight line, and is green. Should be a simple matter to overspray with earth: I'm happy with how the top/bottom side demarcations turned out. The white is a bit sudden, maybe I should have used white grey, but a coat of Tamiya smoke will soon tone it down: ou can see I drilled out the gun ports. I'll make a red decal for the canvas covers, and Microsol will hopefully make it sag into the holes. Edited October 19, 2014 by dr_gn 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Your masking has been very successful and the result is nice and crisp. Did you cut the demarcation between green and brown in situ, or apply the masking after cutting it on a template? Either way, it looks flawless. The two colours have turned out very well also, and I look forward to seeing your gun port covers (well, all your decalling really). Andrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 I'm happy with how the top/bottom side demarcations turned out. The white is a bit sudden, maybe I should have used white grey, but a coat of Tamiya smoke will soon tone it down: ou can see I drilled out the gun ports. I'll make a red decal for the canvas covers, and Microsol will hopefully make it sag into the holes. I don't think the red patches came in till later. I don't recall seeing patches, red or otherwise, on pre-war planes, away from the books, but these may help. No patches. In this photo the gun ports are like yours are now. I'll have a look at some books later. Though in this shot they look bare metal. before anyone asks, AFAIK these are real pre war colour pics, post Munich crisis. No 3 squadron. Good job on the Hurricane, I don't 'do' 1/72nd, but would pick one of these up cheap. Probably easier than doing an accurate fabric wing Hurricane in 1/48 th though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 I agree: I would be most reluctant to put red gun port patches on that aeroplane at the time modelled, unless you have positive photographic evidence to the contrary, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir T Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Looks Great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_gn Posted October 20, 2014 Author Share Posted October 20, 2014 Your masking has been very successful and the result is nice and crisp. Did you cut the demarcation between green and brown in situ, or apply the masking after cutting it on a template? Either way, it looks flawless. The two colours have turned out very well also, and I look forward to seeing your gun port covers (well, all your decalling really). Andrew. Thanks, The masking is partly freehand (flat surfaces) and for the more complex wing/fuselage lines I placed tracing paper over the model, drew the line and then stuck two pieces of masking tape to the paper. Cut to the line and peel the top tape off, and that's the mask. If you use only one piece of tape, the pencil or pen line tends to transfer to the model. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_gn Posted October 20, 2014 Author Share Posted October 20, 2014 I don't think the red patches came in till later. I don't recall seeing patches, red or otherwise, on pre-war planes, away from the books, but these may help. No patches. In this photo the gun ports are like yours are now. I'll have a look at some books later. Though in this shot they look bare metal. before anyone asks, AFAIK these are real pre war colour pics, post Munich crisis. No 3 squadron. Good job on the Hurricane, I don't 'do' 1/72nd, but would pick one of these up cheap. Probably easier than doing an accurate fabric wing Hurricane in 1/48 th though. I found these imges of early Hurricanes, where I can't see the gun ports. Presumably they must have been covered. The replica in the Tangmere museum has individual red patches over each gun port: Ithink this one is Romanian: Photo credits to whoever owns them - they aren't mine, and I'll remove them if necessary. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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