general melchett Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Hi all, just wondered if anyone has any decent photos of the typical interior layout of an in service C.1, ( not the restored flying aircraft as that's been modified). I've trawled the net as usual and can only come up with a few that don't really show the seat arrangement. I'm OK with the colours and seat details it's just the layout. I'm using the Special Hobby C.54 kit as I couldn't get hold of the C.1 at the time but sure that the layout was quite different on the RAF aircraft..........cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boffin Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 On my one flight many years ago, I recall rearward facing seats in pairs ie 2 sets, gangway 2 seats. Overall memory of colour blue grey. But it was all a long time ago George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general melchett Posted September 13, 2014 Author Share Posted September 13, 2014 Thanks George, appreciate the recall. As a spotty little air cadet I blagged a trip in one at Gutersloh but can't remember the layout for the life of me, only that it was blue and an off white/cream.......age eh ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty_hopkirk Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 All the RAF transports I flew in that were kitted as passenger transport and those in part freight configuration the seats we blue and faced backwards.I hasten to add I did fly in Pembroke. Marty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general melchett Posted September 13, 2014 Author Share Posted September 13, 2014 Thanks Marty...appreciated. I just wondered how many rearward facing rows there were...I seem to recall four but can't be 100% !...I suspect that they were re configurable too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty_hopkirk Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 (edited) General, unfortunately there was a typo in my post above, it should have read I didn't fly in Pembroke, but no reason to believe it would be any different. I did however, fly in RAF VC-10, Britannia and Comet and they were all the same. The RAF were constantly changing the internal layout to suit the operation the planes were supporting. The most interesting flight I was on was Britannia from Brize Norton to Goose Bay which was configured 2/3rds freight and the balance at the rear was passenger config. The in flight catering catering on this nine hour flight consisted of the steward saying the galley is up there "help yourself" where one had negotiate around the pallets to get to it. I did however get to sit in the No 2 seat for half an hour or so. It was also interesting to observe all the commercial flights flying higher and faster that the Brit. I was once involved in a interesting Comet take off, were backward facing seats gave an interesting experience. Marty... Edited September 14, 2014 by marty_hopkirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kspriss Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 We do have a Pembroke down at Classic Air Force, Newquay for a short while..but it's the restored flying one from St Athan or I'd get you a load of cabin photos Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyot Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I did have a photo and I spent ages looking for it yesterday but so far it has not turned up,...I`ll keep looking though. From memory it shows a blue and cream cabin, with blue being the lower colour on the walls with a blue carpet and the rear facing seats are the same RAF blue colour. Most seats also have a table in front of them which is covered in a black rubberised finish. I`ll check my external hard drive today and hopefully find it, All the best Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evalman Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Although the colours and type of seats in the example currently at Classic Air Force look familiar, the internal layout with tables is not how I remember it from my trip in XL953 back in 1979. The seats all faced rearwards with 4 or 5 individual seats on each side and the aisle down the middle. There were no tables. We looked inside another Pembroke at Wildenrath which had no seats at all, it had just returned with some cargo so the layout could change quite easily by the look of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XL929 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 The Pembroke we had at Northbrook had three individual seats on the side with the access door and five on the other if I remember right. All faced backwards and were a mid blue colour with chunky little armrests and pretty large headrests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I had a flight in a 60 Sqdn aircraft at Wildenrath in 1980 or thereabouts, and I flew facing forward with a table and another pair of seats facing me. The arrangment was the same on the other side of the aisle, and those were all the seats (8 in allI). Don't have the serial number of the aircraft (lost logbook) but my thought was a VIP configured aircraft, out on a training mission. Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) A Belgian Air Force Pembroke C.Mk.51 (preserved in its juice) walk in and around is here: https://picasaweb.google.com/102059212356806414968/PercivalPembrokeRM04KoninklijkLegermuseumBrussel?noredirect=1# -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The internal designs from the German Air Force Pembroke C.Mk.54 - source: SCHLIEPHAKE H., Hunting Percival P.66 Pembroke C.Mk.54, F-40 "Flugzeuge der Bundeswehr" N°19, Bmvd-Verlag, Arnsberg (D), 1993. V.P. Edited September 16, 2014 by Homebee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general melchett Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 Great stuff, thanks everyone great remenicencies though it seems to highlight the fact that the layout could be configured differently on each flight ! Did all VIP aircraft have the sectioned off navs 'office' at the front ? A few of the shots I have just show the entrance door to the cockpit behind the forward set of rear facing seats. I'm guessing they did have a nav sat here and that the poor 2nd pilot didn't have to do all the donkey work .......just wish I could remember on the flight I had....old age eh. Love the diagram of the C.54...... looks more British the way they're all lounging about.....not the Teutonic way at all ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyot Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 I found my picture and here it is; I have a cockpit photo too,....I`ll PM them to you, Cheers Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evalman Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Here's one looking forward: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalea Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 off topic, but if you're building the Special Hobby Pembroke. check the wing before you start gluing things. On mine the outer wing was thicker than the inner wing. Still can't think of what to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Ekedahl Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 off topic, but if you're building the Special Hobby Pembroke. check the wing before you start gluing things. On mine the outer wing was thicker than the inner wing. Still can't think of what to do. And IIRC, tha cocpit floor sits far too low. In fact the poor 1/72 pilots wouldn't even have been able to look over the IP in front of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Ranger Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Saw one of these in RAF markings at the Wichita Falls, TX, airport in 1977 when deplaning from a commuter flight. Unfortunately I did not have my camera with me at the time. What would a Pembroke be doing in North Texas???? The Wichita Falls airport shares runways with Sheppard Air Force Base, but this Pembroke was parked on the apron/tarmac in front of the civil terminal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyot Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Saw one of these in RAF markings at the Wichita Falls, TX, airport in 1977 when deplaning from a commuter flight. Unfortunately I did not have my camera with me at the time. What would a Pembroke be doing in North Texas???? The Wichita Falls airport shares runways with Sheppard Air Force Base, but this Pembroke was parked on the apron/tarmac in front of the civil terminal. It might have been operated by the UK Embassy Air Attache as Pembrokes were commonly used for this purpose around the world? Maybe taking the Ambassador or other Embassy staff to a function? Cheers Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismac60 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 1/48 scale kit by Magna due December. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general melchett Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 Thanks again chaps, I'm scratching the entire cockpit and interior as I also noticed the floor depth whilst researching the old bird. The SH kit is quite nice but very basic, as to be expected with a short run jobbie. The blank canvas is there though. The wings seem OK but the separate tips were fun to get right, for some reason they defied all attempts at styrene gluing and so had to be given the CA and ali tab treatment ! Thanks for photos, plenty to ponder... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Ekedahl Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 May we have a WIP thread, General? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general melchett Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 It's on the 'to do' list for early next year Sten. Once I clear a few magazine commitments I'll be able crack on with it properly. To be honest I'm just pottering round with it at the moment finding out what's required hence the need for good interior photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John R Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Is the 'restored' one you mention the one that appears on the airshow circuit from time to time? If not it might be worth hunting it down. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radleigh Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I have a Pembroke kit but can't for the life think who makes it? Unusual company... kit looks awful on the sprue's too but I will tackle it one day, in Swedish markings. I saw a guy post some photos on Facebook a few weeks back, x2 at St.Athan and a Sea Prince (I think). I will hunt him down and see if he can get access inside them for you Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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