Zone19 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 FYI General, in the nose wheel bay, there are several black CB box's, the 2 I remember are the one on the forward bulk head and the one on the roof, where the wheel sits...You could only open the top one if the front one was closed. I'll see if I can find a picture for you I had a scadge in 326 on Sunday, whilst getting up close and personal with the Dutch B-25 and it is deffo black!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zone19 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Knew I'd seen one somewhere...Here is a link to a Luftwobble IDS, but the GR1(a) was the same...The images you want are the first 3 on the 2nd line http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/hans-hermann_buhling/tornado_ids/index.php?Page=2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general melchett Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 Amazed you actually got to sticking some stuff together with the amount you have on at the moment. Me too mate !....but it's been a bit of fun, I'll try and crack on with a bit more this week. All the spare resin you can produce Rob....you never know there might be enough to build another Buccaneer !! Zone, thanks old fella...interesting stuff and duly saved....just what I'm looking for and thanks for looking over 326 and confirming the colour, it's much appreciated, (thank Gawd its black !!), ......there are a number of detail areas that I'm looking at, gear bays being one of them. I've found most of the online walkarounds including the ones here but the more the merrier.......tally bally ho ! M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 All the spare resin you can produce Rob....you never know there might be enough to build another Buccaneer !! Very likely yes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaP Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 a very good starting, can't wait to see it finished. it's always a pleasure to see a Tonka building. regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomjw Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 The cockpit and seats look excellent. I do like the Eduard stuff, and your washes seem to bring even more depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasacop Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Those main gear bays look nice. It looks like they've made them symmetrical however the left hand bay was slightly different in that it had the ground lock stowage box towards the front bulkhead and the right hand side didn't so the box needs removing from the right hand one, and the left hand bay also had the fatigue meter (dunno how you're gonna get round that without trashing those bays!) The front bulkhead of both bays used to get proper filthy with chinagraph graffitti etc! The sloping covers at the front of the bays were just a black plastic cover. Got to say tho, those are the best representation of Tornado main gear bays I've seen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general melchett Posted September 9, 2014 Author Share Posted September 9, 2014 Thanks fellas, Tom, the Eduard stuff is a must for any serious cockpit detailing..you can add switches, knobs etc yourself to bring out the 3D effect and enhance with an oil wash plus they're dead easy to work with. I use them for every build when available and the 'Zoom' simplified versions are particularly good value for money ! Wasa, thanks for the info, they are a massive improvement on the kits 'caverns'. I've since rounded up several online walkaround sets and see what you mean about the gear bay bits and pieces. Some very nice ones of the main gear bays and one that shows the large black boxes in the nose gear bay which will be very useful. The more info the better...... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zone19 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Love the work on the seats, but I have to say, that every set of resin seats that has the straps moulded in with them has them resting on the PSP (Personal Survival Pack). They were never stowed like that, they were crossed over the Para Box and slipped into a recess behind it... http://data3.primeportal.net/hangar/hans-hermann_buhling/tornado_ids/images/tornado_ids_37_of_66.jpg http://data3.primeportal.net/hangar/hans-hermann_buhling/tornado_ids/images/tornado_ids_43_of_66.jpg http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/71270-panavia-tornado-gr1-gr4/ The first 2 are from a Leftwobble IDS The last one is from the forums here. Look at ZD793, a XV Sqn jet, and there is a great photo taken of the top of the Para Box which shows how they are stowed Also something else that's missing from the kit is the MASS (Master Arming Safety Switch) flag in the left hand front window panel, when it's safe (raised) it shows white...Below I've 'borrowed' the picture from the walkround so I can highlight it for you...Admin if I've done wrong, please remove, and many apologise. It's about 2" Square, one side is flat white when viewed from outside and the other is flat black. Hope this helps. Zone19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritag Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 (edited) The cockpit and seats look excellent. I do like the Eduard stuff, and your washes seem to bring even more depth. I agree with that. It's so good that you can see just how dated it looks compared with the the current era of MFD minimalism Love the work on the seats, but I have to say, that every set of resin seats that has the straps moulded in with them has them resting on the PSP (Personal Survival Pack). They were never stowed like that, they were crossed over the Para Box and slipped into a recess behind it... Zone19 True - but I use the excuse that it's the sloppy way the aircrew (who were tired and emotional after their sortie) left em before the ground crew got the chance to stow em properly. Edited September 9, 2014 by Fritag 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zone19 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 True - but I use the excuse that it's the sloppy way the aircrew (who were tired and emotional after their sortie) left em before the ground crew got the chance to stow em properly. Yea bloody lazy growbags!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasacop Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 The MASS flag stands up showing its green side when safe and is flush and black when armed! The green is a dark lime green iirc. While you're mucking about with the coaming there are the inspection holes for the brake accumulators which are very prominent. These sit towards the front edge of either side of the coaming. Revell had them right on the 1/32 beast! Surprised they missed then on this one! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zone19 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 The MASS flag stands up showing its green side when safe and is flush and black when armed! The green is a dark lime green iirc. While you're mucking about with the coaming there are the inspection holes for the brake accumulators which are very prominent. These sit towards the front edge of either side of the coaming. Revell had them right on the 1/32 beast! Surprised they missed then on this one! Lime Green?!?!? I thought they were white!! Mmmmm will have to check this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zone19 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Bugger!!!! I sit corrected!!! http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=knrrAwAAQBAJ&pg=SA4-PA141&lpg=SA4-PA141&dq=Tornado+Master+Arming+Safety+switch&source=bl&ots=3BUUB6bqi-&sig=9oPFvEVj2ZEkDBTW8pMG-MEtfJw&hl=en&sa=X&ei=BecOVMvpMYTm7AaLo4HQAw&ved=0CCMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Tornado%20Master%20Arming%20Safety%20switch&f=false 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Very very nice - love the Eduard set on this - NEAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I am yet to Buy anything Eduard but I must give them a try soon as they look wonderful and the kits too. Certainly better than I could do myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general melchett Posted September 9, 2014 Author Share Posted September 9, 2014 (edited) Thanks chaps...more grist for t'mill !....I'm a huge fan of detail, (as you may have noticed ) and whilst it's just not possible to get it all on there nothing to stop you having a bl***y good go ! Great stuff re the coaming, MASS flags etc......this is the kind of intel that I need. Steve..... but I use the excuse that it's the sloppy way the aircrew (who were tired and emotional after their sortie) left em before the ground crew got the chance to stow em properly. You mean you didn't pack your toys away properly after playtime !......naughty boy....see the CO...hat on ! I know what you mean re the stowed seat belts...and all the photos I have show them stowed back too so I'll see what can be done... Meanwhile in a galaxy, far, far away...well a little sleepy village just north of Waddington actually.... I've managed to get the U/C bay basics done and removed the extra black box on the starboard side, added some extra wiring and washed with oils. There will be a lot more in there once the main gear legs and jacks are fitted and the pastels added... And t'other side... Also finished the nose gear bay. Revell cleverly broke the build down so that the 'roof' of the nose gear bay is moulded onto the base of the cockpit tub making it easy to paint the bay walls and detail the 'roof' at the same time...all fits beautifully. Again more detail to be added but the basic tub is done...I can actually start bunging the thing together now... Edited September 9, 2014 by general melchett 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasacop Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Liking the nose and main wheel bays! They just need making as filthy as a filthy thing in a not very clean place!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumber Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I vaguely remember the mass flag showing white at standby for an SMS bite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zone19 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Awesome work General I vaguely remember the mass flag showing white at standby for an SMS bite So do I...Unless they changed it?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike7451 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Awesome work General So do I...Unless they changed it?!?!?! And me.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimrod54 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 That's very nice work General. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasacop Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 http://www.b-domke.de/AviationImages/Tornado/5391.html I know this is a deutsche jet but the MASS flag is definitely green! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerbannog Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Exactly the type of WIP I waited for . I actually tried to resist the current Revell boxing to wait for the RAF boxing (want a GR.1 in wrap around camo too)... but then I fetched one in a dented box sale for just 16 Euro incl shipping Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zone19 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 http://www.b-domke.de/AviationImages/Tornado/5391.html I know this is a deutsche jet but the MASS flag is definitely green! As you said...It's German I'm fairly sure it was white 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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