Shane_Lovell Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 (edited) Hi all Following is my build of an Eduard 1/48 Mig-21 PFM using the Profipack version. The aircraft I am building is an Egyptian Mig-21 PFM from the War of Attrition period flown by Capt Samir Aziz Mikhail. So far, I have been really impressed regarding the Eduard kit. It appears that Eduard have put some consideration into how the model will go together, a fair percentage of the fuselage seams are covered by other parts such as the spine and the overall rigidity of the fuselage is strengthened by the inclusion of two spacers. I wish they had done this with the Mirage... The color photo etched instrument panel and console panes have fitted well and really look impressive. My paint mix for the Soviet cockpit blue green was Gunze H25 Sky Blue and H46 Emerald Green in a 2:3 ratio. http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/eduardPFMbox.jpg http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-07-052.jpg http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-07-051.jpg cheers Shane Lovell Canberra, Australia Edited July 8, 2014 by Shane_Lovell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomjw Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Excellent start. I have built Eduard's MiG-21 SMT and totally agree with your observations of how well engineered it is. I will follow your build with interest. Cheers, Tom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsPhil Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Great choice of subject and kit. I built a PF for the mig 21 GB not long ago. If you're lucky Tom Cooper will spot this and add his knowledge on the subject, especially paint colour suggestions. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cooper Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Shane is 'good, old mate' from our joint times at the DAK forum (DAK = Deutsches Afrika Korps), years ago, and the topic in question is highly interesting, so couldn't resist supporting him fully in this project. BTW, the subject in question is another - and very authentic - Egyptian MiG. A MiG-21PFM from No. 47 Squadron, flown by Capt Samir Aziz Mikhail on 20 June 1969, when he scored a confirmed kill against an Israeli Mirage (two MIrages went down that day, one of pilots was captured, the other ejected over the Sinai).... The plane featured prominently on the cover of Arab MiGs Vol.4 too. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane_Lovell Posted July 8, 2014 Author Share Posted July 8, 2014 (edited) Hi all Please see attached a profile by Tom Cooper of the aircraft I am building. Thanks Tom for permission to post this. http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/EAFMiG-21PFM8097.jpg The plane was delivered to Egypt just few months before. It was camouflaged in beige BS381C/388, black green BS381C/298, and either green BS381C/283 or olive drab BS381C/437 on bottom surfaces. Lower surfaces were painted in light admiralty grey BS381C/697. Notable is ventral fin painted in light blue: this was a sort of unit insignia for No. 47 Squadron UARAF as of that time. Does anyone have any thoughts regarding a suitable model paint colour for BS381C/388 Beige? cheers Shane Edited July 8, 2014 by Shane_Lovell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsPhil Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) We had a lively debate about the best shade of beige (that's something you'll only hear on a modelling forum I'm sure!) in some of the threads in the group build http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/forum/463-mig-21-single-type-group-build/ I went with Tamiya XF-78 for my PF http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234954420-148-academy-mig-21pfs-or-fl-egyptian-af/page-3 It looked spot on until I glossed it, Tamiya paints go a bit darker under gloss. The other option is Akan paints Bosse used Akan for his builds http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234954417-eduard-148-mig-21-mf-egypt-airforce-mig-21bis-syrian-airforce/page-5 Depending on where you are in the world will depend how easy they are to get hold of... Worth a look through Bosse' build as he spotted an issue with the fit around the front of the lower wing part on the Eduard kit. Hope that helps! Phil Edited July 9, 2014 by SaintsPhil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane_Lovell Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) Hi all Thanks for the kind comments. Currently, I plan to use the following paints to represent the BS colours Beige - Gunze H336 - Hemp Green - Gunze H78 - Olive Drab(2) Black Green - Gunze H65 - RLM 70 Black Green Light Admiralty Grey - Gunze H334 - Barley Grey For an interesting history of the BSC 381 / 381c range of colours have a look at http://cpwstonehouse.com/colour-systems-part-2-british-standard-colours/ The nose cone and wheels were painted in Gunze H26 Bright Green. The wheels then received a wash of Windsor and Newton Sepia oil paint. Some new progress pictures - http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-07-071-1.jpg The exhaust was painted with a mixture of Tamiya TS-17 Gloss Aluminium, Modelmaster Metalizer - Steel and Gunze Mr Metal Colour 212 Iron. The TS-17 was sprayed directly from the can rather than being decanted and then sprayed through my airbrush. I used the same colour for the forward and rear wheelwells. http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-07-091.jpg The body of the seat was painted with Tamiya Neutral Grey and the lighter components with Humbrol 64. http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-07-092.jpg http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-07-093.jpg http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-07-094.jpg http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-07-094.jpg The seat certainly dominates the cockpit, though enough of the colour photo-etch consoles are visible to still make it look beautiful. A fishing sinker and some shotgun pellets were glued into the nose cone. These were glued with white glue and left overnight to fully cure. http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-07-094.jpg So far, touch wood, I haven't stuffed anything up. Fitting the seat into the glued fuselage was very tight and I would recommend fitting it prior to gluing the two fuselage halves together. cheers Shane Lovell Canberra, Australia Edited July 9, 2014 by Shane_Lovell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsPhil Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Looking very good. Your paint choices sound sensible, but I would suggest considering Gunze 314 for the undersides, admiralty grey, despite the name, is more of a blue colour! Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 We had a lively debate about the best shade of beige (that's something you'll only hear on a modelling forum I'm sure!) in some of the threads in the group build http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/forum/463-mig-21-single-type-group-build/ I went with Tamiya XF-78 for my PF http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234954420-148-academy-mig-21pfs-or-fl-egyptian-af/page-3 It looked spot on until I glossed it, Tamiya paints go a bit darker under gloss. The other option is Akan paints Bosse used Akan for his builds http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234954417-eduard-148-mig-21-mf-egypt-airforce-mig-21bis-syrian-airforce/page-5 Depending on where you are in the world will depend how easy they are to get hold of... Worth a look through Bosse' build as he spotted an issue with the fit around the front of the lower wing part on the Eduard kit. Hope that helps! Phil I think that most of us who built the MF Eduard kit had a similar slight problem the front of the lower wing. I also used Akan paints on my build and found them very good, and I don't usually use these types of paint. Good luck with your build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane_Lovell Posted July 13, 2014 Author Share Posted July 13, 2014 Hi all More progress pics. I'm now starting to analyse the painting sequence in order to minimise the chance of any stuff ups. Rather than spray the bare metal panels on the rear fuselage after putting down the camouflage pattern, it looks easier to put the bare metal down first and then mask it. My original plan was to use Alcad laquers for this so I painted the natural metal area with their undercoat. This is a fantastic product as its essentially a very fine liquid filler. http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-07-121.jpg http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-07-122.jpg http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-07-123.jpg http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-07-124.jpg So, no plan ever survives the first shot. I test sprayed the Alcad Duralium (thank god) and hated the colour and finish. As I had the Mr Metal Colour Aluminium and Dark Metal colours, I decided a mix and match approach would be a good experiment. I had hoped the paint finish would produce a dark metal. Unfortunately, it didn't but it will suffice for the lighter of the two panels. The finish seems very fragile so I will now need to put a clear overcoat on it prior to masking up the dark metal panel. http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-07-135.jpg The centre line drop tank was painted in Mr Metal Colour Aluminium and then lightly buffed. I have to admit the finish is better than anything else I have seen. http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-07-136.jpg cheers Shane Lovell Canberra, Australia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cooper Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Cool stuff, Shane. And it reminds me it's about the time to prepare the top view for you... is to follow within a few hours. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane_Lovell Posted July 16, 2014 Author Share Posted July 16, 2014 Hi all More progress and another update. http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-07-16141236.jpg http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-07-16141125.jpg http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-07-16141113.jpg The lower wing and fuselage section fitted beautifully with only a smidgen of filler being required. http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-07-16141143.jpg The only flaw I have found so far is a step where the upper right wing section meets the fuselage. This required a bit of sanding and filling. http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-07-16141328.jpg So now to finish off the lower fuselage, mask the metal sections and commence spraying the blue underside. cheers Shane Lovell Canberra, Australia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane_Lovell Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 Hi everyone Its been a while so I thought I would show my progress in spraying the upper camouflage pattern. Each element has been masked with rolled out blu tack as I can't free hand to save myself. The key challenges have been ensuring the positioning and proportion of each element, along with copious masking to prevent overspray. Thankfully, the topside camouflage pattern is nearing completion. http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-07-28164923.jpg http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-07-28164911.jpg http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-07-28164652.jpg http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-07-28164645.jpg http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-07-28141428.jpg http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-07-28141421.jpg http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-07-28141402.jpg http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-07-28141355.jpg cheers Shane Lovell Canberra, Australia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles81 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Hey Shane, Looking very nice, I am keen to see this one in the flesh. Cheers, Ken Canberra Australia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cooper Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Looking 'hot': I'm also looking forward for more... yummy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane_Lovell Posted July 29, 2014 Author Share Posted July 29, 2014 Hi all Further progress on the upper camouflage scheme yesterday. http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-07-29165944.jpg http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-07-29170005.jpg http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-07-29170021.jpg cheers Shane Lovell Canberra, Australia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlin Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Beautiful Lovely colours..... Can't wait to see this finished. /Bosse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Stunning camo work my friend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cooper Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Shane, two minor details you can 'add' at this stage too: this was a 'late-production' MiG-21PFM, so it had a 'periscope' (with rear-view mirror) on the top of the cabin, plus two (instead of one) power-supply (?) connectors on left side of the fuselage, above forward airbrakes and behind auxillary intake. (The latter look like 'small circles with a hole in the centre' on most of line-drawings; though, most of line-drawings of PFMs show only one in this place.) If you like, you can add the GP-9 gun-pod too: though, this was rarely used by Egyptians, because fuel (i.e. the 490-litre drop tank under the centreline) was so much more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane_Lovell Posted August 1, 2014 Author Share Posted August 1, 2014 Colleagues Painting the upper camouflage is now complete. Masking, however, removed some of the metallic finish on the rear fuselage so it will need to be repainted (bugger... bugger!)The next steps are to paint a medium grey into the panel lines. http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-08-01130010.jpg http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-08-01125936.jpg http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-08-01125927.jpg The following picture shows a test painting of the panel lines. http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j373/shane_lovell/Eduard%20Egyptian%20Mig-21%20PFM/2014-08-01130053.jpg cheers Shane Lovell Canberra, Australia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsPhil Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Looks great, what paint brand and colours did you use by the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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