due148 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Guys, I am new to this paint Alclad II and have been having issue with their high shine finishes. I have used their black gloss base on plastic spoons to test the colour but somehow I could not get that shiny surface. Lots of spots surfaced up too. I have viewed the videos online and read about it. I think I have followed what I was supposed to do.. light mist ... etc... Appreciate if you guys could share some guidance on how to use this paint. I really want that shiny finish this paint is capable of. At the moment I am thinking it could be static or dust or bad surface prep.... The second last photo was probably overspraying the paint... Thanks a lot, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little-cars Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 What hardware did you use ? What settings did you use & number of coats of paint? How glossy was the Black and what paint is it? To practice polished shades you are probably better spraying alclad over a clean piece of glass. Two fine coats at 15 psi. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
due148 Posted May 16, 2014 Author Share Posted May 16, 2014 What hardware did you use ? What settings did you use & number of coats of paint? How glossy was the Black and what paint is it? To practice polished shades you are probably better spraying alclad over a clean piece of glass. Two fine coats at 15 psi. Paul I'm using neo for Iwata and neo air at high setting so that should be about 15psi. The base was very glossy and is alclad gloss black base itself. I'll give it a try on a piece of glass as you suggested later tonight Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
due148 Posted May 16, 2014 Author Share Posted May 16, 2014 I had some more tries since I had some spoons left anyway. The result was better than last time although the chrome is still grainy; not that shiny chrome surface ... I will wait to the base coat on the glass to cure and will try that tomorrow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pte1643 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 The bottom two are certainly getting there. I'm not a massive fan of the Alclad Gloss Black Base... I find that good old Humbrol Enamel works well. I've even used Halfords Enamel in aerosol cans, that worked well too, but is a little expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan B Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 No mention of a water trap, do you have one fitted in line? Duncan B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyhunter66 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Well for what's its worth I changed to Tamiya TS14 black and decant it to my airbrush. With the Neo for Iwata I spray below 10 psi - 15 is too high Cheers Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
due148 Posted May 17, 2014 Author Share Posted May 17, 2014 no water trap fitted in my neo air as my other Iwata compressor is broken could this be the cause? I am getting a new compressor and will see if it makes any difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
due148 Posted May 29, 2014 Author Share Posted May 29, 2014 I have had more practice and been trying to spray really light coats but I am facing with dusty problem . I'm really not sure why it keeps becoming dusty like this. I have changed compressor so now it has a water trap and spraying around 12-15psi. Ia m in Bangkok and it is hot and humid here at the moment. Could this be the cause? Appreciate any help I can get, Photo 1: first very light coat Photo 2: second coat Photo 3: 3rd coat Photo 4: polished with lens cleaning cloth Photo 5: 4th coat Photo 6: 5th coat Photo 7: polished with lens cleaning cloth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 You have lowered your pressure so I would think it's not that.You could be spraying to far away, the paint is drying before it hits the spoon. You want it to be going on wet, but not so much that you get runs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmydel Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 It's the Alclad black base. It is notorious for having bad batches that don't cure EVER. Avoid it. I ruined a Tamiya 1/32 Mustang using it. If you do enough searching around the forums you will quickly find that people have problems with the Alclad black base. In fact. I bought a second bottle of it to try again after the P-51 disaster and I just spent all my bench time last night stripping it off after it failed to cute after several days. You can use something like Tamiya or Gunze gloss black. I actually prefer to decant Krylon spray paint. I tried some if that in a pinch and it sprayed some beautifully I use it all the time now as a black base. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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