bootneck Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Just been sent this link of arrivals and departures at Birmingham Best viewed in full screen! Mike 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshiretaurus Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 All well flown holding the centreline reasonably well given the conditions, 1st Flybe Q400 might need a heavy landing check and a bit if a brown trousers moment as the steering was transferred from tiller to rudder at 10:09, could be the same Q400 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleeperService Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Is the pilot at 4:04 actually wiping his forehead!! Amazing to see the wings flexing so much. Thanks for finding it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viscount806x Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Thanks for posting that. I remember now why I never bid for a BHX base during my flying career. In common with LBA, a N-S runway isn't ideal when the wind prevails from the SW. Still had to go there a few scary times though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aimee'sDad Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Is it me or is the runway extremely short and very 'lumpy'? Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 (edited) Great Vid, I'm amazed that they have a construction site in the undershoot/overshoot area and are still operating If you stand at any base/airport near this area they ask you to move on for your own safety, but here is an area full of diggers and cabin/containers! Shaun. Edited March 22, 2014 by Shaun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Is it me or is the runway extremely short and very 'lumpy'? Mark It's the foreshortening effect of the telephoto lens used for the filming, when viewed normally the place has humps but not as bad as the video suggests. Shaun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Jephcott Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I'll take my moment of fame at 1:36, I thank you very much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSTON Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 HECK .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshiretaurus Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I'll take my moment of fame at 1:36, I thank you very much! Chris, Thought that one looked like it might need a heavy landing check. Was it as heavy as it looked? Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggers Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 My flightsim mates say my landings are always like that ,the rotters. Blimey,some ring-twitching,rudder pedalling,tyre scrubbing brown trooser moments there I'll say. Well done to all pilots for getting 'em in/out safely in those conditions. Brum has got a hilly runway hasn't it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richellis Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I bet some sick bags needed removing following some of that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear13583 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Pilots earning their pay! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Jephcott Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 (edited) Chris, Thought that one looked like it might need a heavy landing check. Was it as heavy as it looked? Mark Mark, I don't actually know who did that one but it was almost certainly heavy. We were the Dash 8 that went around afterwards in the video and got in on the second attempt. It looks to all intents and purposes that the one in question caught the downdraft off the Monarch hangar and dropped, which would explain the lack of crosswind technique. It seems to occur in the last 30 feet and is really worth carrying extra speed for - even armed with this fact, we lost about 20 knots in this time period leading up to us going around. I reckon the first one almost certainly was a heavy landing. At some stages, there were 4 of our aircraft out with them across the network for such reasons!! Chris Edited March 22, 2014 by Chris Jephcott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly Block Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I wonder if Ryanair charged extra for the roller coaster ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyMover Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Keeps the pilots on their toes...... This one always makes me cringe a bit - from a few years back http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYiLaK5bIJo Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 What was the wind doing that day Chris? At least it was dry! I don't think any of us have seen weather like this winter in our flying careers, especially the sustained strong winds. It wasn't just the wind on the ground that was the problem. Most approaches you were flying with 60 to 70 kts of wind until very late in the approach with associated turbulence and windshear. I went round 3 times and diverted twice in 6 weeks, more than my total for the last 15 years! There were a few 'sweaty palm' moments!! Cheers Glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyMover Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 It still amazes me you manage to get these things down in calm conditions! The nearest parallel in my experience is my narrowboat; even a moderate cross wind will have me going at an angle along the cut; one of the effects of not having a keel. Even at 4mph it can make life interesting............ Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hepster Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 This is great! I usually fly from Birmingham on holiday, and I think it would be funny if they showed this as the inflight movie! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Jephcott Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Glen, I think the wind according the TAF only occassionally ventured above 55kts for Birmingham throughout the entire winter. However, there is rumoured to be a hearty difference between the wind given by tower and the actual wind - in fact, to this day, where they get their readings from is a total mystery. If I recall correctly, I think it was gusting up to 45kts on that day. However, with the new Monarch hangar at the side of the runway, there are a whole series of totally different wind effects in the last 100 feet... Adding that to the conditions this winter, it's not really a surprise how many people have ended up diverting away from Birmingham over the last few months - which isn't great if you consider that 15/33 has bizarrely been not too far being into wind during the strong days!! It's been a bad winter for diverts and go arounds. I can't remember any prolonged time period quite like this before - and summer is hopefully going to provide a much welcomed break. At least it wasn't snow and endless waiting around for the de-icing truck this year! Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshiretaurus Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 However, there is rumoured to be a hearty difference between the wind given by tower and the actual wind - in fact, to this day, where they get their readings from is a total mystery. I'm sure some places have the anemometer indoors! I've often wondered when I'm told 10kts whilst looking at a horizontal windsock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eng Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Cor! Some top flying there....few scuffed main wheels among that lot. Great vid. Eng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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