TerryUK Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Hi, I came across this Phantom F4 and was wondering if anyone could shed some further information on it. Im guessing it`s possible from USAF from the Vietnam era. But im lost as i have never seen this one before. Any Info is much appreciated.Regards Terry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parabat Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Looks like a F-4D, with 'navy' pylons inboard of the fuel tanks. Not a clue about it, but that is an awesome find, I'm as keen as you to find out what the story is! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryUK Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 I presumed a recon bird... When i posted F4E i knew it was wrong. Yes Parabat im totally at a loss on this one also. I hope someone out there can throw some light on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parabat Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Me too, it seems like a good story must be behind it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radleigh Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Saw this on Facebook today... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I have asked if anyone on a US forum I subscribe to knows anything about it. Julien 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Pete Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I have this pic in a book, which I will have to look for tomorrow. But I don't believe it is said why it was painted this way anyway. I can tell you however it is a USMC F-4B, probably at either Da Nang or Chu Lai in South Vietnam. You can just spot the tail of a VMFA-323 F-4B behind it. Notice that the intakes and the canopy are masked off, so maybe the paintshop just had some fun with it, took some pics and then resprayed it in the right colors before someone higher up found out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthemodeller Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Cool - even the USMC does pre-shading! Wonder how they applied the rest if the weathering..? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan B Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I have this pic in a book, which I will have to look for tomorrow. But I don't believe it is said why it was painted this way anyway. I can tell you however it is a USMC F-4B, probably at either Da Nang or Chu Lai in South Vietnam. You can just spot the tail of a VMFA-323 F-4B behind it. Notice that the intakes and the canopy are masked off, so maybe the paintshop just had some fun with it, took some pics and then resprayed it in the right colors before someone higher up found out. Hey I'm getting good at this game! I guessed F-4B (probably Marines) and did notice the masked canopy so also concluded it was mid respray (must have had a lot of spare black paint though). Would make an interesting dio. Duncan B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 It's just black primer, the sharks mouth was added as a zap. Scroll about 3/4 down here: http://366th-tfw.net/bruce-hill_photos2.htm to see an A-6 with the primer as well. Jari 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XV107 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Forgive the slight deviation off topic, but linked to the above Da Nang site... Remember how we all know that the F-4 was cleared to carry a maximum of 3 SUU-23? Look at the bottom photo and caption here: http://366th-tfw.net/index73.html Can that be right?? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 There is an entire thread on this at ARC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Brilliant link ! Those pictures are a great source for inspiration. Loved the shot of the F-102 weapon bay with the rockets inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parabat Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 A gold mine of images, great links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 There is an entire thread on this at ARC. Do you have a link for this Scooby, I've had a look & not found it? Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) Interesting. I'm not convinced by the 'primer' theory. The link with the A-6 getting a similar treatment is very interesting. It is apparently being painted outdoors, directly over the original finish. The undercarriage legs and the drop tanks are getting painted as well. This makes me think it is some kind of temporary finish. There were several trials of camouflage for aircraft operating in Vietnam, maybe this was a night intruder trial?? Great pictures in the link by the way. Thinking something Vietnam for my next project. Natural metal C-141 looks cool, or maybe a nice A-6. Edited January 14, 2014 by chockhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Forgive the slight deviation off topic, but linked to the above Da Nang site... Remember how we all know that the F-4 was cleared to carry a maximum of 3 SUU-23? Look at the bottom photo and caption here: http://366th-tfw.net/index73.html Can that be right?? 6 x 20mm !! now thats something. Have to be a short hop with no external fuel. Would not like to be in the way when it fired!! Julien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomjw Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I like it. Looks well mean in black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I have no idea about the F-4 but I immediately thought of the black B-17 in Nam http://www.utdallas.edu/library/specialcollections/hac/cataam/Leeker/aircraft/b17.pdf Probably not related but interesting Trevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody37 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 A decal set for it should be quite a reasonable price! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Obviously being prepared for NMF! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinistervampire319 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Not paint or primer. It's a protective wrap for shipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Is this the Black Phantom ? The original photo is from photobucket and i cant see it ? I have a cellular internet connection and cannot download any corrections to allow photobucket to work. I have been looking for info on this plane for two years. I found this photo on pinterest and all i could get was a vague reference to VMFA-323 ? If thats correct please let me know ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary C Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 ANG P-51's shipped to Korea were wrapped in the same stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 On 13/01/2014 at 10:19 PM, Finn said: It's just black primer, the sharks mouth was added as a zap. Scroll about 3/4 down here: http://366th-tfw.net/bruce-hill_photos2.htm to see an A-6 with the primer as well. Jari Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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