glueman Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Hi everyone, My first proper post ... so please be gentle with me ... or rough ... or whatever Here goes ... I'm currently building the Airfix 1/72 scale Vulcan and next in line is the 1/72 scale TSR 2. As most people will know, the cockpit detail for both these models is pretty spartan so I'm thinking of adding some extra detail. I'm tempted to buy the after market parts ... in fact I have some PE parts for the TSR 2 cockpit but they look extremely fiddly. With the canopy on and painted any extra detail won't be that visible. My dilemma is ... how much detail to add? I could go the whole 'hog' and add loads of detail but I'm just wondering if I will be wasting my time. I plan to add 'some' to give the impression of extra detail ... use the existing decals ... add some surface texture but not go 'mad' and try to model every switch. I think that probably will be enough for my rusty skill level. Thanks Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper_city Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 The misses often says "Why do you bother, you wont see it anyway." To which I reply "But I know it is there and I had fun doing it." The end... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngstROM Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I'm with him ^ ! It just depends how far you feel you want to go; if you're comfortable with putting the effort in (even if the results will be largely obscured in the end), then go for it. It's all part of the 'fun' modelling experience! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glueman Posted December 13, 2013 Author Share Posted December 13, 2013 Thanks for your replies. I feel I could add more lots more detail ... but I've just seen Mark's signature above and that says it all really ... Too many models, not enough time. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I tend to find I only add what I can see now, as you can get bogged down and loose interest in the build quickly, well I do. If it's on display in my cabinet, no ones going to bother to turn it upside down and comment on the super detailed wheel wells. But I can also see the satisfaction some people get knowing it's there, especially if their in a club and the other people look for that detail, or should I say appreciate the work doing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hacker Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 My rule of thumb is to ask myself this Scale? 1/48, 1/32 or bigger you may need to detail as the bigger you get the more you see what you can actually see? canopies what we call green house e.g. Bf 110 shows a lot of the interior details so detailing is a must but planes that you can not see much through the windows like the Vulcan l tend to ignore. what you want to accomplish? Take the S-3 Viking for example in 1/72. Build as is you really do not see much but you have a semi green house canopy but if you open all four escape hatches then you see the interior so off to the detailing you go. This applies to bomb bays and engines exposed. Really it is up to you but to cut down on the work if you can not see it l really do not bother with it My 2 cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Irwing Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I go with what your happy with. You can superdetail the Vulcan cockpit but unless you have a surgical endoscope I doubt if you would even be able to see the seats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glueman Posted December 13, 2013 Author Share Posted December 13, 2013 Thanks for your comments. Hacker ... great point about the scale. Can't see much at 1/72 scale anyway. I also have a 1/48 scale TSR 2 which would be ideal for extra detailing if and when I get round to building it. John ... funny you should mentioned about the surgical endoscope ... (don't worry, I'm not going to regale a funny medical story). Cheers Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsprop Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I built the Vulcan in 2012 and IMO it doesn't matter what you put in the cockpit as its near enough invisible through the small windows. That said, if you're having fun then go for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radleigh Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Personally I try to detail what you see when it's built, saying that though It is nice to build a kit, detail areas that won't be seen and have photographic evidence of them areas. It keeps you up to scratch (excuse the pun) with scratch building and painting smaller parts etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natter Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Whatever you do remember Colin's wise words and don't get bogged down. If you do go mad but enjoy it that is fine, but if you just want to add a little 'extra interest' then add simple bits that you will actually be able to see. If, at any stage, you don't enjoy the build then stop and go back to simple. Whatever advice you get here be prepared to find yourself in a dilemma! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jockster Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I'm with all of the above, we've all spent many hours creating little works of art that only we will ever see before hiding it inside a hull or fuselage, and very happy to do so! One thing I have been learning is to not waste too much of my own time on cockpits when I have an 'in flight' model. Once the pilot is in there is far less to see. Saves me a fortune in resin and brass! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 An interesting dilemma. when I built my Vulcan I scratch built quite a bit of detail in to it - but I also made the roof removable so you could see inside if you wanted to. It has to be said that I do get carried away sometimes building stuff inside a fuselage that you will never see again, however as others have said, I know it's in there so it makes me happy! Karl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthemodeller Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Your call! I have done both - super detailed a 1/50 scale truck model right down to all the pipes and wiring on the chassis and a detailed cab interior including a scale packet of choccie digestives (none if which can be seen on the finished model) but I get a buzz out of knowing I did it. At the other extreme is my current build - a 1/72 Airfix Vulcan- that I am contemplating painting the inside of the windows black because so little can actually be seen through them (the intakes and exhausts, however, are a different matter and really need some work!) Do whatever you feel is right for you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Ranger Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 My rule of thumb is: Will it be visible when the model is complete? If not, I don't worry about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicarage Vee Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I agree with the others. I enjoy doing the detail and I know it's there and that makes me happy which is why I'm building it in the first place. I know a lot of it won't be seen but I do like to look in and then look harder and still see stuff present. Whatever makes you happy is the correct way to go. I must say I rarely use etch sets now if I can help it. As has been said a million times they are great for boxes but not for most things with a circular profile & you can do those with stuff that's free... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkdipXV711 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 I tend to build several models of the same type but different versions and usually try to add something different on each one, especially scratch building interiors. My stuff is 1:72 so the effort is just for me and as others say, I know it's there. Next project us 1:48 so previous attempts will not have been in vain. Good practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 I've always just superdetailed what can actually be seen, i just don't see the point in adding detail that will be invisible when the kit is finished. When I built the Airfix Vulcan years ago I only added striped ejector handles to the tops of the seats as you just can't see anything else in there through the canopy. With canopies closed I suspect the TSR.2 would be similar, cockpits open is different though. Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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