Duncan B Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 True dat. Some guys like fat chicks Don't you mean FAST chicks? Duncan B 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catbird Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Ill have nothing bad said about the Lightning. Lucky enough to live under the Binbrook flightpath. Suppose she was my first love, I grew up with the sound of Lightnings and so many days spent up at the crashgate. I was heartbroken when they retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 True dat. Some guys like fat chicks I like a fat turkey at Christmas...does that count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 I like a fat turkey at Christmas...does that count? Now Bill, that's no way to talk about the F-15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcanicity Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 The boxart is up on Airfix.com! http://www.airfix.com/shop/aircraft/a04054-english-electric-lightning-f2a-172/ Good to see both green and nmf finishes catered for 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catbird Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 I love where it says " various armament options" in the spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan B Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 I love where it says " various armament options" in the spec. I'm guessing they are refering to the gun fit, the F2A at East Fortune has the muzzle ports for a four gun fit for instance. Duncan B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geedubelyer Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Thanks for the link Vulcanicity. Nice choice of OOB schemes. This all looks very promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spooky56 Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Not my preferred scale but I'm just gonna have to, or should that be two 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navy Bird Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 ... it seems a shame (and somewhat ironic) to be contemplating sticking the belly of a 30 + year old kit onto a 21 Century moulding! Hmmm, didn't someone on BM do that recently? Sounds vaguely familiar... Cheers, Bill 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody37 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, dude. I watched the episode of Wonders of The Solar System - "The Thin Blue Line" on Sunday for the first time (the one featuring ZU-BEX taking Brian Cox up past 60,000ft from a classic Lightning take-off). Lets just say its lucky kids and SWMBO were in the room at the time Please tell us you are referring to the lightning and not Brain Cox ?? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan B Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Hmmm, didn't someone on BM do that recently? Sounds vaguely familiar... Cheers, Bill Indeed! I'll add that chopping Trumpeter Lightnings up is allowed and should be encouraged. I think you'll like the Airfix one just as it is. Duncan B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 I'm no Lightning expert but will want at least one for the collection. Is there a definitive list of mk by mk recognition points. To me round fin and small belly tank = early. Cable ducts and Red Top/Firestreak combinations are a dark art. Then there's the F.2A which is a transmogrified F.2 to look like a 6? Trevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Trevor: A simple guide to Lightnings: F.1 ..... pointy fin, no cable ducts and slotted mainwheels F.1A.....Pointy fin, cable ducts some had slotted wheel s but mainly ones with holes. F.2..... much the same as F1A but with provision with extar cannon under the nose. F2A ..... Modded to F.6 but still with the standard shorter cable ducts and cannon and still only firestreak equipped or four cannon(not always used) F.3... a bit like the F1A. F.2 but with square top fin. Red top missile capable. F.6... well, square top fin, wing plan form altered, extended cable ducts, red top or firestreak capable, no cannon initially but later fitted to the forward end of the larger belly tank. T4.... pointy fin two seater version of F1A T5.... square top fin. There are several other points like different vents and scoops dotted around the fuselage and probably internals that we can't see on models!! Other than maybe the slightly different instrument panel from the F.3 on. Lots on the web with serail number batches definingf when the mark numbers changed etc. The above is just a basic look at the Lightning with the main visible points fo modelling purposes. Hope its of help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamp Donkey Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Cant wait for this....will build at least 4 F2A's........I dread to think how many F6..... This is the modelling event of the century!!!! SD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Paul thanks! I will commit it to memory Wotabout Kuwait and Saudi? Trevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Trevor: A simple guide to Lightnings: F.1 ..... pointy fin, no cable ducts and slotted mainwheels F.1A.....Pointy fin, cable ducts some had slotted wheel s but mainly ones with holes. F.2..... much the same as F1A but with provision with extar cannon under the nose. F2A ..... Modded to F.6 but still with the standard shorter cable ducts and cannon and still only firestreak equipped or four cannon(not always used) F.3... a bit like the F1A. F.2 but with square top fin. Red top missile capable. F.6... well, square top fin, wing plan form altered, extended cable ducts, red top or firestreak capable, no cannon initially but later fitted to the forward end of the larger belly tank. T4.... pointy fin two seater version of F1A T5.... square top fin. There are several other points like different vents and scoops dotted around the fuselage and probably internals that we can't see on models!! Other than maybe the slightly different instrument panel from the F.3 on. Lots on the web with serail number batches definingf when the mark numbers changed etc. The above is just a basic look at the Lightning with the main visible points fo modelling purposes. Hope its of help. Additionally, the Slotted wheels on the F1 and F1a mostly disappeared, to be replaced with the 'eight holed' version, very quickly....this pic is dated as 1962..... The F2 differed slightly by having a small intake fitted on the upper mid-spine. This featured on all subsequent marks. The F3 had extended cable ducts and was the first Lightning without fixed armament. Don't forget the F3A (Interim F6). Virtually identical to the F6, but no provision for overwing tanks. All were upgraded to full F6 standard eventually. As Paul says there were minor differences regarding NACA ducts and intake scoops etc., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Paul thanks! I will commit it to memory Wotabout Kuwait and Saudi? Trevor Trevor, Take a look at the photo's on this site......in conjunction with Paul's notes... http://www.aviation-picture-hangar.co.uk/Lightning_Gallery.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Trevor, Take a look at the photo's on this site......in conjunction with Paul's notes... http://www.aviation-picture-hangar.co.uk/Lightning_Gallery.html ta muchly! Trevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_modeller Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 (edited) Was the Firestreak really a step behind RedTop in terms of capability ? (EDIT, stupid question, almost double the range and wider firing aspects) Seems strange the F2A was never updated in this respect. Edited November 15, 2013 by alpine_modeller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_modeller Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Please tell us you are referring to the lightning and not Brain Cox ?? Errrm...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selwyn Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Gents, Has anyone fot a good picture or diagram of the F1/2 Gun pack,? I'm looking for the one that could replace the rocket pack in the front fuselage and the guns fired through ports under the intake, not the later front of the ventral tank type pack used on the F6. Selwyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 The box art has been posted on Airfix.com: https://www.airfix.com/shop/new-for-2013/aircraft/a04054-english-electric-lightning-f2a-172/ J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossm Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Paul thanks! I will commit it to memory Wotabout Kuwait and Saudi? Trevor Have a look in the Flight archive - http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1968/1968%20-%201765.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 (edited) Gents, Has anyone fot a good picture or diagram of the F1/2 Gun pack,? I'm looking for the one that could replace the rocket pack in the front fuselage and the guns fired through ports under the intake, not the later front of the ventral tank type pack used on the F6. Selwyn This shows the gun port on an F2, note that Firestreaks are also carried.... More relevant to the Airfix kit, here's XN793 showing signs of having fired both sets.....minus the Firestreaks Edited November 15, 2013 by Bill Clark 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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