1:35 Barbed Wire - Options?

[snapper_city]

Hi guys. Not really sure where to post this but here will do. I am looking to replicate barbed wire for various builds. WW2 and Vietnam issue for static barricades, fences and rolled up for vehicle clutter. I have looked about and most of the AM stuff is flat pe. Are these any good or is scratch building the way to go?

[Shar2]

Mark, Eduard and ET Models sets actually work quite well from what I've seen.

[Black Knight]

Have a look at this;

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-32-SCALE-COILED-BARBED-WIRE-10inch-25cm-LENGTH-FOR-SCENES-DIORAMAS-/390674735012?pt=UK_Toys_Games_ToySoldiers_EH&hash=item5af6075fa4

[pigsty]

I was digging through my toolbox the other day and I found a tiny instruciton leaflet for making your own. Essentially, you braid three strands of thread together; coat them in thinned PVA to make the hairiness go away; then take another length of thread, wrap it four times around the long strands with the ends protruding, attach it with PVA, trim the ends, and seal again with PVA. I've seen the results (a long time ago!) and it does seem to work.

[ozz]

use the above method, but change the thread for fine fuse wire.

[snapper_city]

Hi Guys

Thanks for all the comments.

I saw somewhere online the other day showing some stunning AM barbed wire that is quite difficult to get hold of and out of production. I think it was by DB productions or something similar but I can't find the page again.

I am since going to give this method a go and see what happens. I will report back.

[snapper_city]

Right after a quick test this is what I came up with.

IMG_3169 by Snapper_city, on Flickr

A bit too much glue used I think or maybe it will shrink down when dry. Also I will aim to get the barbs closer together next time but I think it looks not to shabby.

[pigsty]

Also I will aim to get the barbs closer together next time but I think it looks not to shabby.

Looks just right. But check the spacing of the barbs - they're usually a fair way apart. Too close together and the roll becomes impossible to untangle.

[snapper_city]

This is quite useful but has no information on the barb spacing.. Following the build guide in post #6 the guy recommends barbs every 1/8 of an inch. I will play about a bit more with differing spaces and put it to the public vote.

[georgeusa]

Having put up more than a few fences in my time, barbed wire usually comes in either 2 point or 4 point barbs. (the example you show above is a two point barb.) Two point is usually has reverse twists meaning one set of points has the upper barb in front while the next set of barbs has the lower barb in front. Four point has a barb going up and down at both ends of the twist. Spacing between the barbs can either be 5" or 3". 5" barbed wire is for general use to keep critters in (cattle, sheep, bison, goats); 3" is to keep critters out (coyotes, wolves, people). Most common barbed wire is the 2 point, 5" spacing. Spacing between the wires depends on the critters you are trying to keep in or keep out. Thickness of the wire varies but in 1/35 scale you wouldn't really be able to distinguish the differences in gauge. Hope this helps. In the example you did above, looks pretty realistic. Maybe a little less blobs of glue and get whichever spacing between the barbs you want to use. Seems like you are on the right track.

[snapper_city]

Having put up more than a few fences in my time, barbed wire usually comes in either 2 point or 4 point barbs. (the example you show above is a two point barb.) Two point is usually has reverse twists meaning one set of points has the upper barb in front while the next set of barbs has the lower barb in front. Four point has a barb going up and down at both ends of the twist. Spacing between the barbs can either be 5" or 3". 5" barbed wire is for general use to keep critters in (cattle, sheep, bison, goats); 3" is to keep critters out (coyotes, wolves, people). Most common barbed wire is the 2 point, 5" spacing. Spacing between the wires depends on the critters you are trying to keep in or keep out. Thickness of the wire varies but in 1/35 scale you wouldn't really be able to distinguish the differences in gauge. Hope this helps.

All good info thanks. I will stick with the 2 point as like you say is more common and easier to make. I am looking around at differing gauges of wire and have found some more locking wire that is just slightly larger gauge than the red wire I have used already. These are slightly stiffer to work but I will give them a try.

Now for some maths: What length between barbs is 3" and 5" in 1/35???

[pigsty]

Now for some maths: What length between barbs is 3" and 5" in 1/35???

Very roughly speaking - I challenge anyone to measure it on the completed result! - 1/12" and 1/7" respectively. Actually that last one is precisely 1/7" but as it's an endlessly recurring decimal ...

[snapper_city]

Very roughly speaking - I challenge anyone to measure it on the completed result! - 1/12" and 1/7" respectively. Actually that last one is precisely 1/7" but as it's an endlessly recurring decimal ...

So barbs about every 1/8" sounds about right then.

[georgeusa]

I plan to be putting up about 100 yards of 1:1 2 point 5" barbed wire fence today, any takers for help?

[snapper_city]

I plan to be putting up about 100 yards of 1:1 2 point 5" barbed wire fence today, any takers for help?

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