Paul Bradley Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Computer generated - of course - but interesting nevertheless, from the Portsmouth News website: http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/defence/in-pictures-hms-queen-elizabeth-images-1-5560498?ot=johnstonpress.JohnstonPressPageLayoutPP3.ot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paganpete Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Gorgeous, who are we borrowing the aircraft off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 You will need an awful lot of aircraft to make the deck look busy! Trevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Bonsai Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Bigger images here and quite a few of the construction besides.http://www.flickr.com/photos/qeclasscarriers/9929628335/in/photostream/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanSAR95 Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 I don't know what to say about these carriers. The thing that makes me annoyed is the ridiculous scrapping of the harriers, at least when they eventually get built there would have been OUR aircraft for them until the f35s arrive. What a stupid decision on the harriers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zed Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 I don't know what to say about these carriers. The thing that makes me annoyed is the ridiculous scrapping of the harriers, at least when they eventually get built there would have been OUR aircraft for them until the f35s arrive. What a stupid decision on the harriers. You are so right, that has got to be the most short sighted Defence related decision ever, worse even that Nimrod MRA.4, TSR.2, or CVA-01 etc. Despite that, seeing these pictures give me a warm feeling to think the RN will have something that is as close to a real carrier as we can hope at last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Vor!!! Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Does every post ref these ships have to bang about the Harrier???? Its gone !! finished with !!! The decision was made and we have to put up Lets see what happens when the ship and planes come into service 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigsty Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Does every post ref these ships have to bang about the Harrier????Apparently, yes. See also every post about the F-35, every post about the Harrier, and for all I know every post about any type of aeroplane ever.Its gone !! finished with !!!So is TSR.2, these nearly fifty years, but when has that ever stopped anyone? Somewhere on the interweb there's probably forums complaining about the premature retirement of the flintlock and the longbow - all for political reasons that manage to have been carefully planned sabotage carried out by utterly stupid people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 So is TSR.2, these nearly fifty years, but when has that ever stopped anyone? Somewhere on the interweb there's probably forums complaining about the premature retirement of the flintlock and the longbow - all for political reasons that manage to have been carefully planned sabotage carried out by utterly stupid people. Have you seen the site that blames a corrupt cabal for retiring the USN's jet-powered flying boats and demands their return to service? I am not making this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Vor!!! Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 But i forgot the Harrier like the TSR could do EVERTHING!!!! Fly a million miles non stop faster higher then anyone else drop thousand bombs and outfight any other plane in the sky oh and make the piots tea at the same time I,M fed of hearing about it when i click a post REF THE CARRIERS!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzio Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Wow she's a fair old size isn't she?! I look forward to seeing her floating and doing her stuff. Did anyone else see the black/green information boards on the side of the towers (sorry nautical terms are not my forte) and just think of an Airport/train station?? I've been told there is a petition on the MoD's site to change the name of the second carrier from HMS Price of Wales to HMS Ark Royal. Haven't found it yet tho. Kind Regards, Dazz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigsty Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Have you seen the site that blames a corrupt cabal for retiring the USN's jet-powered flying boats and demands their return to service?What, the P6M and the ... er ... the ... ?Link please! I must read this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 For you, anything: http://www.combatreform.org/p6mseamaster.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 For you, anything: http://www.combatreform.org/p6mseamaster.htm Thanks for sharing that, it was a great read ! The number of historical errors and plain rubbish written in that article provided me with a good few minutes of laugh ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigsty Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 What, the P6M and the ... er ... the ... ? Link please! I must read this. My mistake ... life is too short for that BS, to borrow one of the author's favourite terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripehound Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 For no apparent reason this exploded sectional diagram of the new carriers appears on the wall of the art block of Stamford High school - http://amphibiousnecessity.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/june-2013-notes-possibilities-of.html Which is quite handy if you want to borrow a crayon off one of the little Tarquins to scrawl 'bring back the Harrier' across it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Bonsai Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 The mechanical engineering construction of the ships looks amazing though essential as the bare hull is it only is about 10% of the costs - the "systems" of all sorts make up the other 90% of the ship's cost - the air wing is separate to this. With all the discussions going on about aircraft suitability the basic facts are we are building 2 floating structures somewhere in size between the Nimitz class and the Enterprize CVA class ships and we are going to fly VSTOL aircraft off it that carry 10000lb dead weight/space lift fan that is only of use in the take off and landing. Any fixed wing VSTOL aircraft is a waste of a vessel of this size but The Consortium building the ship could not to come up with a realistic price for making it conventional fixed wing capable. I suspect the RAF is keen to have the VSTOL capable F-35B simply because it will be a darn sight easier to land on a carrier though in terms of effective strike range a F18EF/Rafale and possibly a Buccaneer SMk3 mix would be more useful... and the F-35 systems can be carried by any similar sized airframe or even a bit smaller. I'm really looking forward to these ships coming into service but I just wish we had a more sensible air-wing for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 My mistake ... life is too short for that BS, to borrow one of the author's favourite terms. But wait! Don't you want to read his thoughts on submarine aircraft carriers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 (edited) But wait! Don't you want to read his thoughts on submarine aircraft carriers? That's even better stuff than the previous one ! I love the idea of a 12,000 ton submarine capable of carrying 20-30 aircrafts AND 27 ballistic missiles... the Ohio class boats displace 16,000 ton with the missiles only, wonder where this talented engineer thinks the space for the aircrafts can be found on a 12,000 ton submersible platform ? Edited October 7, 2013 by Giorgio N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feldr Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 paper planes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2wheels Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 (edited) There's a flickr page following the build, with frequent updates. http://www.flickr.com/photos/qeclasscarriers/with/9929626065/ Oops ...the link was already posted Stolen from it..a taster of what's to come? maybe? Edited October 26, 2013 by 2wheels 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 At least you guys have an aircraft carrier or 2, and we have an Exclusive Economic Zone of 10 million square km's with an Air Force that can fit on an US Aircraft carrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigsty Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Is that a departures board attached to the island? Will it be like the one at Victoria Station - periodically going blank and then saying "Expected 20:08" on some and "Please see timetables for details of services" on the rest? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Any reference pictures of theses carriers compared to the American ones,just seeing the aireal shots they seem bigger than I realised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shar2 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 There's a good one here http://zhanrae30.deviantart.com/art/Aircraft-Carrier-Size-Comparison-326414897 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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