Kits for Cash Hurricane Fabric WIng

[Gary]

Hi,

I note that Kits for Cash offers a 1/48th scale resin fabric wing to backdate the Airfix Hurricane Mk. I. Replacement prop, exhausts and other resin parts are also available. I'd like to know if any members have used this set and what they think of it regarding fit, overall design, accuracy and quality of the items. TIA for any information.

http://www.kitsforcash.com/hurricane-fabric-wing-64-p.asp

Edited April 12, 2013 by Gary

[The wooksta V2.0]

If it's the old Blueprint conversion, it should be very nice indeed.

[Troy Smith]

Hi,

I note that Kits for Cash offers a 1/48th scale resin fabric wing to backdate the Airfix Hurricane Mk. I. Replacement prop, exhausts and other resin parts are also available. I'd like to know if any members have used this set and what they think of it regarding fit, overall design, accuracy and quality of the items. TIA for any information.

http://www.kitsforcash.com/hurricane-fabric-wing-64-p.asp

HI Gary

I'm assuming that this the same wing done by Aardvark designs, I picked up one up a while back, and it looks to be the same compared to the KFC site

There was a thread on fabric wing Hurricanes, i posted some pics of my one in the thread.

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234934849-classic-airframes-hurricane-worth-getting/

If you email Ian at Kits For Cash he could tell you it's origin. If you do please post that info [i should do this myself...]

Note my suggestion to use the much maligned Ark instead of the Airfix [see linked thread] but whatever you use you will need to get some 5 spoke wheels!

HTH

T

[Work In Progress]

It's the Heritage conversion, which I believe is ex Aardvark. Whatever its origins, it is decent enough.

Relevant discussion can be read in these threads

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234918538-early-hurricane-wing/

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234934849-classic-airframes-hurricane-worth-getting

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/41886-airfix-148-hurricane

[Troy Smith]

HI

This made me email Ian, who replied confiming the wing he sells is ex-Aardvark.

cheers

T

[Gary]

Thanks, everyone, for your responses. I do have a resin replacement wing, but I've had it for so long I can't recall who put it out. Both upper and lower surfaces look as if they've been hit by multiple blasts of birdshot: pinholes everywhere. I'm working on and off at "fill, sand, fill, sand" with thin Mr. Surfacer just to see if I can make anything out of the wing. I expect to be at Telford this November, and so can visit the KFC stand to see what their wing looks like. This will be a long-term project, so a visit to Telford several months down the road won't be a problem for me. Thanks again for your help!

[Troy Smith]

Gary

converting a metal wing kit is not that hard. If you have a resin wing, and a Hurricane donor kit, you have a wing you can play with and not lose anything.

the ,main job is doing the wing tapes, Malcolm McKay aka Milne bay on here did a prototype conversion, here's how he tackled the rib tapes

http://www.network54.com/Forum/578046/thread/1355640253/WIP+-+Airfix+1-48+Hurricane+Prototype%2C+tapes+applied+to+wings+%26gt%3B

The AL Bentley drawings are the ones to use.

http://www.albentley-drawings.com/hurricane.htm

here's a low res version which will give you an idea, note the comparison of metal with inset fabric wing. It's not that hard. There are many little variations that were progressively introduced in early Hurricanes, so try to work from a good pic.

though I have never got a response. . They were published in Scale Models in 1979, and in Model Aircraft Monthly in oct or nov 2005, these are the ones to get as they are in 1/48th. The back issues are gone but ask and I'm sure a scan could be found Or look for a copy of the magazine.

There is a very good walkround of the science museum plane here, the pics supersize, and as the plane is hanging up, lots of details of the underside and fabric application.

http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/mark_hayward/hurricane_mk1_l1592/

Note the wing leading edge is metal, covered with fabric.

HTH

T

[Gary]

Visited Scale ModelWorld Telford this year for the UK Nats. Got to the MDC table and came away with their conversion set. It's light years ahead of the shotgunned item that I've had for quite some time. I haven't seen some of the items listed in this thread, but I'm confident that the MDC version is the way to go. Thanks to all who responded to my initial question. Question now answered, and the Hasegawa Hurricane is now back in the build queue!

[woody37]

I agree, I picked the MDC kit up at Telford too, a very nice set.

Geebar, I'd be very interested to see your progress with this for when I do mine

Cheers

[Troy Smith]

I agree, I picked the MDC kit up at Telford too, a very nice set.

Geebar, I'd be very interested to see your progress with this for when I do mine

Cheers

HI Woody

Hmm. I have a MDC wing. It's not a good set IMHO.

Why?

The fabric and general detailing is very good, but mine has really thick traling edges, like 1mm thick, which look silly, and thinning them would wiper out a load of detail.

It also looks to be hard work, in as much as it requires you to cut off the wings outboard of the u/c, where the outer panels do attach in reality, but that is a tricky making good job and getting the dihedral right.

If it came with some etch joing panels, or you make some out of plastic. But getting those 'just so is also tricky.

I saw a built kit done with these, and while the join was well done, it was also 'off' I asked the builder, and he said it went funny when he glued it. It's a tricky one to get right.

And, it does not address the fabric panel at the wing root. I have the MDC set, and it says there is no evidence this exist but this is wrong.

Damaged 17Sq Hurricane, in France. The fabric covering can be clearly seen on the wing root panel.

And it does not have 5 spoke wheels, as can be seen in the pic above as well.

Although the ONLY fabric wing hurricane kit or conversion to get this deatil is PCM 1/32nd kit AFAIK. [not one the new Airfix either]

Ultracast do a set of 5 spoke Hurricane wheels which look pretty good...but there goes another 4 quid....

For those who wish to to make some, a set of Spitfire 5 spoke hubs will work very well, both the Special hobby and the Eduard MkIX kit come with 3 types , covered, 4 and 5 spoke, which means these hubs are eay to get if you ask nicely, or build spitfires. The Eduard hubs are better then the SH ones BTW.

see here for more on this, with pictures http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234938125-hurricane-question/?hl=hurricane

and the Hasgawa wheels can have their hubs drilled out, mark a centre point, drill out with small bit, finishing off the hole with a 6mm dril bit, it you need it a bit bigger, go 1/4 inch bit [ie 6.25mm]

I have a suggestion, since the MDC conversion involves chopping off the outer wings, before you do that, you may as well try converting these to the fabric wings, it's really about adding some rib tapes, filling and rescribing the gun access hatch, the rescribe being all straight lines, moving the landing light in a bay, and chamging the ejector slots a bit.

the MDC are a very good guide to these details.

practice rib tape techniques on a scrap wing, or use milne bays method

http://www.network54.com/Forum/578046/thread/1355640253/WIP+-+Airfix+1-48+Hurricane+Prototype%2C+tapes+applied+to+wings+%26gt%3B

masked off, and painted one, and then rubbed back slightly, details in link, but this pic should speak for itself..

Or, Work in Progress option

from here

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234938125-hurricane-question/#entry1288526

What I've often used for rib tapes is the self-adhesive aluminium plumber's foil tape that you can buy in rolls in most of the DIY places. Stick onto glass, cut with Stanley knife, lft into place on the tip of a scalpel, rub down well into position with the back of a teaspoon handle, making sure to burning down any sharp edges. Looks fine under a coat of primer.

I've done this as well, and it's while fiddly, it pretty easy, and easy to remove if you need to re do it!

[Yes, I know, I posted the link further up too... ]

what I'm really saying is IT'S NOT THAT HARD! But getting those MDC wings to look good is going to be! So, try the conversion, find it's actually easier and flog the MDC wings on ebay....

Oh, and don't forget, hasegawa stuffed up the fabric detail around the fabric fuselage access panels, see here -

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234934849-classic-airframes-hurricane-worth-getting/#entry1241894

And as I point out, this 'feature' has been then replicated by Classic Airframes, pegasus, AZ, [and, possibly, from the from the sprue shots of the new Airfix kit, airfix. I have not seen the kit, just photos and I hope I'm wrong on this]

and that the last rectangular panel on the starboard side is not there one the early planes, ie the fabric winged and N**** serialed metal winged planes.

Note the lack of this panel in the 17 Sq pic above.

cheers

T

[woody37]

Thanks for a most comprehensive reply Troy, I'm liking your approach above. Do you have or recommend any drawings to refer too as to the gun access bays etc

I'll get my MDC set out and weigh up the pro's & cons of each method vs my modelling skills before I start. Looks like another job for Solar trim!

Cheers, Neil

[Troy Smith]

Thanks for a most comprehensive reply Troy, I'm liking your approach above. Do you have or recommend any drawings to refer too as to the gun access bays etc

I'll get my MDC set out and weigh up the pro's & cons of each method vs my modelling skills before I start. Looks like another job for Solar trim!

Cheers, Neil

Hi Neil

Only just noticed your reply/request

the 'gold standard' Hurricane drawings are the Arthur Bentley one.

They were published originally in 3 separate issue Scale Models in late 1979 [sep, oct nov IIRC] , and more recently as a 1/48th fold out in Model Aircraft Monthly Vol 4, no 11 [nov 2005] it's OOP but I should think findable...or PM me and i'll do you a scan.

Or, if you have the cash, get Arthur to run you off a set http://www.albentley-drawings.com/drawings/hawker-hurricane-mk-i/hawker-hurricane-mk-ii/

note 'from £16' plus post.

cheers

T

[woody37]

Thanks Troy, I'll pm you