PC2012 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Hi, The first picture is what I want it to look like, hopefully! I don't know if it will be entirely accurate, I'm using an F-104C. I'm going to try an Aires cockpit - a first for me. I test fitted it and as you can see there is quite a gap, so I'm going to thin the cockpit walls and trim down the cockpit tub and it should be okay.... Also there was a bit sticking out of the top of the instrument panel (near the HUD) that snapped off, so I replaced it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozzy19 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 If this turns out anything like your Hawk, you'll be on to a winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PC2012 Posted March 9, 2013 Author Share Posted March 9, 2013 Cheers Mozzy - I hope so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knaupel Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 This looks very interesting, I will follow your build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mekon Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) Another one to follow; looking forward to seeing how it goes. What will you use for NMF? Edited March 9, 2013 by mekon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PC2012 Posted March 10, 2013 Author Share Posted March 10, 2013 I'm going to use Alclad chrome for the fuselage... and many others for different panels. The cockpit tub fits now. I still need to add instrumentation and seatbelts. I'm going to use transparent colour for the HUD lens and radar lens. I was going to do the HUD lens orange and the Radar lens green - does anyone know if this is correct? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PC2012 Posted March 11, 2013 Author Share Posted March 11, 2013 Made some progress with the cockpit. I still have to do the HUD, seatbelts, Throttle and Joystick but I'm quite pleased with it so far...... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noeyedears Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 currently trying to get my act together on one of these and need all the tips i can get cos it aint happening. any advice you can give greatly appreciated. did you have to do anymore than remove the ribs to get the tub to fit? ive already binned one fuse and dont wan tto ruin another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PC2012 Posted March 11, 2013 Author Share Posted March 11, 2013 Hi, If you look at the second picture of the fuselage above where I removed the ribs, you can just see a faint line halfway through where the edge of the cockpit will rest. I had to cut the bottom half away. Also on the cockpit tub itself I had to file the bottom wafer thin and file the whole front down to follow the shape of the nose. Also on the bottom of the tub at the back I had to cut two notches to accomodate two pegs that alighn the cockpit tub to the bottom of the fuselarge. Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PC2012 Posted March 11, 2013 Author Share Posted March 11, 2013 Couple more shots from the left side, I just stuck the side panel on with tape... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noeyedears Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 (edited) is the side console pe?? Edited March 12, 2013 by noeyedears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PC2012 Posted March 12, 2013 Author Share Posted March 12, 2013 Yes and the instrument panel (aires) I filed down the raised detail... I'm not much good at painting really small stuff... not to that extent anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horrido109 Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Very nice! This is gonna look awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus.Q1000859 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Following this one, your cockpit looks good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PC2012 Posted March 14, 2013 Author Share Posted March 14, 2013 Thanks - I'll be finishing off the cockpit and starting the wheel bays this weekend. I may not replace the front bay though because the tolerances are very small for cutting the old bay out (I'll post a pic to show what I mean). Then I'm going to do various tests wuth the Alclad. I really want to weather the finish and try various metals... I'll post those results too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PC2012 Posted March 17, 2013 Author Share Posted March 17, 2013 Did a bit more work this weekend. There is still a gap the the front. I had to cut the top of the fuselage to fit the instrumant panel so it needs filing, don't want to take too much off, just so it fits snugly and closes the gap. I've done the seatbelts and painted the joystick anf throttle (not yet fitted). Soon as the cockpit tub fits I'll start on the wheel bays. I'm going to practice painting exhaust colours (on the kit parts) before fitting the resin exhaust. My first time with Alclad! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siggy Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 My favourite airplane. I will definitely follow you. Do you know how to paint the lower side of the wings? Siggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PC2012 Posted March 19, 2013 Author Share Posted March 19, 2013 How do you mean Siggy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffreyK Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Hi there, I was watching this with interest as the 104 is not only my favourite plane but I like the early ones in particular. You did a great job on the cockpit and I thought you got all the surgery figured out to fit it in, but I think one reason why the fuselage won't close is that you left the cockpit sills untouched. You need to cut out a rectangular shape into the kit sills to make room for the resin ones so they sit flush: That way the tub will sit higher up and in its intended position. Also, the coaming/IP block takes a lot of internal trimming/fettling with and the rudder pedal PE a little shortening at the attachment "legs" to get that assembly to fit properly... Here is my attempt after I got it in, the black lines indicating the outline of the Aires sills (the canopy seals are added from stretched sprue): Are you using the Aires wheel bays or the kit ones? I think it's almost easier to detail up the kit ones than to try fitting the (too short) Aires ones... Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing more progress on this! Cheers Jeffrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PC2012 Posted March 19, 2013 Author Share Posted March 19, 2013 Hi Jeffrey - I did cut the front part out where the instrument panel is (thanks for the pic BTW) but I didn't cut all the way up to the cockpit edge like you did (just half way through - difficult to explain - I'll do a pic tonight) However, I think you're right, i'll have to cut to the top... in line with your's to make it fit. I'm using the Aires cockpit and wheel bays. The main bay seems fine (i test fitted) I was just concerned about the front one - I still may just detail that one up. Got two weeks off soon - so should be able to get loads done.... Thanks for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siggy Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Hi PC2012, I was wondering because I have planned to do a starfighter in the same colour scheme. In pictures you can always see the aluminium fuselage and the top of the wings in white. But of what colour are the lower sides of the wings? Best regards Siggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieuwe Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Hi PC2012, I was wondering because I have planned to do a starfighter in the same colour scheme. In pictures you can always see the aluminium fuselage and the top of the wings in white. But of what colour are the lower sides of the wings? Best regards Siggy Those would be a light gull grey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffreyK Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 ...sorry to jump in here, but they are actually FS16473, which is Aircraft Grey or ADC Grey. Light Gull Grey is FS36440 (or 16440 for gloss) and a little different. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PC2012 Posted March 19, 2013 Author Share Posted March 19, 2013 HI Jeffrey, I usually use decanted rattle cans. Tamiya Gloss TS spray paints (which I have used before and really liked) do not seem to do the 16440 gloss paint. Can you recommend a good make to use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffreyK Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I don't usually use rattle cans so I can't comment on those, but for my ADC Grey / FS16473 I use Xtracolor enamels. Even better, although slightly more expensive, are WEM colourcoats. I haven't used that particular colour in their line, but should I restock ADC Grey I'll probably go for WEM next time. Both WEM and Xtracolor are best thinned with lacquer thinners to speed up drying time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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